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Posted by AuxiliaryInput on Apr-30-2006 20:49:

How much do you earn when you dj?

I don't know anything about it, but I want to start doing it though. But how much do you earn each time you dj somewhere? doesn't matter how long the mix is, nor where you do it, just post your earnings.


Posted by Tony Morello on Apr-30-2006 21:15:

how much do you feel your time is worth?


Posted by on Apr-30-2006 21:35:

$0.00


Posted by chubbs on Apr-30-2006 21:40:

Generally DJ's with residencies in local clubs here in Melbourne earn $50-$75 AUD per set.
Larger profile DJ's that play in clubs around Australia can expect $100-$150 per set I reckon (guys like Scott Alert, John Ferris and Nik Fish).


Posted by AuxiliaryInput on Apr-30-2006 22:17:

Thanks Chubbs.


Posted by s3nate on May-01-2006 02:55:

You should be HAPPY if you can even do a warm up in a club for free.

Hell you should be happy if they let you play if you PAID them.


Posted by Allied Nations on May-01-2006 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
You should be HAPPY if you can even do a warm up in a club for free.

Hell you should be happy if they let you play if you PAID them.


That's the wrong attitude man...

I'm not saying we should be paid a whole wad of cash, but if you putting lots of time and effort into your set and they don't pay you at all, its somewhat disrespectful- even if they just comp you a bunch of drinks or something it's nice to be appreciated. I'm not saying all clubs, but a lot are making serious cash- don't let them use you. You are providing a service.


Posted by T-Soma on May-01-2006 05:56:

100-150 per set...
Could make more $$ doing house parties and such lol.
I guess they arnt fun because you dont get to play as much of the music you like but they will help pay the bills.

I thaught people where earning more then that for there sets though.


Posted by First Strike on May-01-2006 07:41:

quote:
Originally posted by chubbs

Larger profile DJ's that play in clubs around Australia can expect $100-$150 per set I reckon (guys like Scott Alert, John Ferris and Nik Fish).


I woudnt think Nik Fish or Ferris do a set for less than $1000


Posted by chubbs on May-01-2006 08:37:

Hmm yeah, it'd vary I reckon. Depending on the event, venue, capacity, shit like that..


Posted by trancecadet on May-01-2006 12:48:

mate of mine gets �50 for an hour, �100 for 2 hours and so on. Basically �50 per hour. Id play for nothing, Just having the priviledge is enough.. But in my mates case he is getting the priviledge to play plus he earnes enough to go buy another sets worth of vinyl. Thats more than id ever want!

Anyone here how much tiesto is charging these days? I forgotten the exact amount but im sure it was 5 figures after he done his concert? Crazy mofo.. He cant mix for shit these days and I used to enjoy tiestos earlier sets (~2000)


Posted by T-Soma on May-01-2006 12:58:

Getting �50 an hour is the same as $120 Aud.
I would be very happy getting that much because then it could pay for the vinyl or mp3s i buy.
If djing as a hobby supported it self but i still needed another job to live i guess i would be happy.
If i could live comfortably as just a dj and or producer it would be a dream.
Im sure most would agree.


Posted by trancecadet on May-01-2006 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
If i could live comfortably as just a dj and or producer it would be a dream.


Too much hard work to actually make a living outta it and not only that if your crap then you still have no hope.. You have to be 'special' in this game .

I dont respect artists/dj's who do it for the money. I spoke to fred baker about that and he was saying how tiesto is all in it for the money, playing at the olympic games etc.. I also feel sorry for the producers that get ripped off with their hard work. (fred baker had this with mr sam I belive). They aint in it for the money, their in it because they want to create awesome tracks, the money comes second. Again look at tiesto.. popping out shit tracks consistantly to try and rake in MORE money.


Posted by Tony Morello on May-01-2006 16:33:

the bedroom guys need to realize it's almost a totally different ballgame once you make it to the club and it starts becoming a job more than a hobby

i didn't like what i was starting to have to play week in and week out, the bullshit politics, and having to appeal to the lowest common denominator to get people through the door on a consistant basis

it's not a life for everyone, it's hard work and a lot of commitment

but if you work hard and know what you want you will get it

and like allied nations said, no matter your skill level, you are bringing your talent and skill along with all the hours you have invested in your craft, you shouldn't walk away empty-handed from a gig, even if it's just a couple comped drinks, you never should have to pay to play

if you do, you're not ready to play out


Posted by Aquarian on May-01-2006 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello and like allied nations said, no matter your skill level, you are bringing your talent and skill along with all the hours you have invested in your craft, you should walk away empty-handed from a gig, even if it's just a couple comped drinks, you never should have to pay to play


Agreed. If you're doing it for free it should just be a one-time thing. Let the club owners try you out and if they want you to play again, start charging. Playing for free all the time is not just bad for yourself, it's bad for DJs all around. If everybody started charging at least a basic price, DJs would be better off everywhere.

It's not about the money, it's about making a point.


Posted by Aquarian on May-01-2006 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
doesnt it has something to do with your skills too? its not like driving the bus or being a teacher now is it? if ur good an famous (so u make people come) u will of cource earn more. if no-one know u or heard of you u wont make shit nomatter how good you are, if ur that lucky to get a dj-job. thats it here in norway atleast. dont think any of the djs here earn any.


Even if they don't sell, alot of time and effort was put into it, and it's unfair that the DJ doesn't get paid. 50/hour should be minimum IMO. Think of it this way - if your day job was working at a gas station, and nobody came, would you accept not getting paid? DJs that draw more people should obviousely be paid more, but there needs to be a minimum. Otherwise DJs will continue to get exploited.


Posted by Tony Morello on May-01-2006 19:42:

but in the real world there is this thing called money, you need money to do things, and lately everyone is needing more and more

money = good

so if you're good at what you do, be compensated for it

if you think you're not ready to ask for payment for your time, then you're not ready to play out


Posted by Aquarian on May-01-2006 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello if you think you're not ready to ask for payment for your time, then you're not ready to play out


I agree. But it seems everyone is eager to play out and they're willing to do anything - even letting themselves get screwed over.


Posted by RJT on May-01-2006 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
you never should have to pay to play

if you do, you're not ready to play out


Agreed, but you'd be shocked at the amount it occurs around here.

As for me, the only consistent cash I see for playing is $150 a night for my (semi)-monthly 4.5 hour sets at a club back in my home town. Other than that, it's all over the place. Most I've made is $600 for 12 hours on NYE a few years back, but that was a one time gig, and a HUGE party that made far more cash than that.

Beyond that, I've played plenty of gigs just for the sport of it... Most of those just being college house parties, but some of those have been some of the best nights I've played out in my life that no amount of money would ever compare to.


Posted by Tony Morello on May-01-2006 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Agreed, but you'd be shocked at the amount it occurs around here.

As for me, the only consistent cash I see for playing is $150 a night for my (semi)-monthly 4.5 hour sets at a club back in my home town. Other than that, it's all over the place. Most I've made is $600 for 12 hours on NYE a few years back, but that was a one time gig, and a HUGE party that made far more cash than that.

Beyond that, I've played plenty of gigs just for the sport of it... Most of those just being college house parties, but some of those have been some of the best nights I've played out in my life that no amount of money would ever compare to.


ah house parties... wish i could remember them

but yea, basically, if people are making money off you it's not bad taste to ask for some


Posted by RJT on May-02-2006 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
ah house parties... wish i could remember them


Lawl... Quick story from one I played about 8-9 months ago now:

The whole night had been insane and almost surreal, but at the same time somewhat of a "standard" scene. A few kegs, about 70-100 kids crammed in a basement sweating their balls/tits off respectively, and the smell of weed/sweat/booze/cigarrettes/slutty underclassmen combined with the thick scent musty basement permeated the air, and for some reason all these kids who never listen to house music just decided this was EXACTLY what they wanted to hear...

The whole night had been amazing and my mixing was spot on, so I was feeling pretty good heading into the last hour and a half of my set, and I dropped Group Therapy - My Own Worst Enemy. I had been beatmatching/selecting what tune I would drop next, and finally I pulled the cans off my ears right at the break where the tune drops into the conga/bongo breakdown, and I look up, and every single person in the basement is literally pounding out the conga line on whatever surface they can find, as hard as they can. The sound of them pounding out that percussive line overpowered the sound system we had set up in the basement (which was no slouch), and all you heard was these kids just drumming along. Finally, the track kicks back in, people go nuts, and I know immediately that this is a moment I'll never forget as long as I live.

/hijack for sentimentality.


Posted by wizniz on May-02-2006 01:14:

rob thats fucking fantastic! i cant wait to have a similar moment


Posted by chubbs on May-02-2006 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
and I look up, and every single person in the basement is literally pounding out the conga line on whatever surface they can find, as hard as they can. The sound of them pounding out that percussive line overpowered the sound system we had set up in the basement (which was no slouch), and all you heard was these kids just drumming along. Finally, the track kicks back in, people go nuts, and I know immediately that this is a moment I'll never forget as long as I live.


Haha aww man, that's fucking awesome. I'd love to hear more stories like this I reckon.


Posted by nicktra86 on May-02-2006 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
You should be HAPPY if you can even do a warm up in a club for free.

Hell you should be happy if they let you play if you PAID them.



maybe for you...

anywhere from 50-200 depending on event.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on May-02-2006 13:59:

DJ RJT that is incredible.

Would love to have heard that.

Inspired!


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