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so i went to best buy and i decided to buy a laptop. so i went there looking for their display models hoping to cut a deal.


so this is what i paid. i dunno if i got a good deal or not

i got

intel pentium centrino 1.70 ghz 100 gb hd, dvd burner cd burner i forget how many megs of ram. had some special fuckin video card in it and something else that i couldnt have given a rats ass abt.

and i paid with taxes 800


good deal?


i think so. however i came out feeling a little disappointed with my negotiations. i think i could have gotten these guys to go lower. not only that i wanted the fuckin carrying case which they wouldnt throw in unless i bought the extended warranty which i told them fuck off with. they also promised to throw in all these software if i bought the warranty. anyways i got the software regardless. but i wanted that carrying case and i know i could have gotten them down to 700 bucks.


my 2 biggest mistakes


#1 i told them my budget: which however in reality was alot higher then what i told them, but sucked me dry for every penny i said was within that budget


#2 i went in their to negotiate with a massive fuckin zit on my nose. i cant even take my self seriously in the mirror with this huge fukin clown nose i have right now. i havent gotten a zit like this since i waslike fuckin 17.

so what negotiating tricks do u have? lets share them.



and then tell me what i can do abt this zit should i pop it?

This is the sort of thread D!abolic would start.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf This is the sort of thread D!abolic would start.

this has nothing to do with my business

and its under the 20 000 price range too

LMAO!!

I here by dub you sir Bozo

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy this has nothing to do with my business and its under the 20 000 price range too

...and the merchandise wasn't an SLK or an Asian hooker.... ok my bad.

To answer your question, read Fisher/Ury's book.

eric, your biggest mistake is not being chinese.
chinese people can bargain like they are competing for a fucking medal.
my mom wouldve got you that laptop for $600 NO TAX with carrying case and the sales dork's sister.

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Originally posted by chinamon eric, your biggest mistake is not being chinese. chinese people can bargain like they are competing for a fucking medal. my mom wouldve got you that laptop for $600 NO TAX with carrying case and the sales dork's sister.

in dominican it was so eays negotiating.

i had them doing head spins on a sharks ass for a dollar

and i got 100 braclets


over here i was like "no carrying case ok im leaving * starts walking towards the door* BYE! *starts waving* ur missing out on a sale! BYE BYE TOODLES *starts walking slower* ULL REGRET THIS! *stops in fornt of open door* THIS IS UR LAST CHANCE U GOT TO MAKE THAT SALE *looks back* Ok fine *walks out*" *runs back in* "FINE NO CARRYINGCASE U GOT URSELF A DEAL!"

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy over here i was like "no carrying case ok im leaving * starts walking towards the door* BYE! *starts waving* ur missing out on a sale! BYE BYE TOODLES *starts walking slower* ULL REGRET THIS! *stops in fornt of open door* THIS IS UR LAST CHANCE U GOT TO MAKE THAT SALE *looks back* Ok fine *walks out*" *runs back in* "FINE NO CARRYINGCASE U GOT URSELF A DEAL!"

LOL
sucker

ahahahaha you are a fool's fool.

Don't start with a price point. Ignore the price tag when you negotiate or else you anchor yourself.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy #2 i went in their to negotiate with a massive fuckin zit on my nose. i cant even take my self seriously in the mirror with this huge fukin clown nose i have right now. i havent gotten a zit like this since i waslike fuckin 17. so what negotiating tricks do u have? lets share them. and then tell me what i can do abt this zit should i pop it?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

i cried!

u r my star of tonight

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf

That's too easy. Just ask them in double negatives:
"Wouldn't you NOT sell it lower?"

A real man doesn't negotiate. It hurts our pride. Grow some balls and blow some money, VB.

LOL just show my flag to the next store you go to and it's the equivalent of 10 hours of negotiation LOL

regarding the zit, yeah pop that sucker. 1) because you know you want to anyway. 2) it will be cool
Once you've poped its ugly white blistering head then dry it out with some standard bar hand soap. Once it's dry apply a dab of neosporin so it will heal faster and won't puss back up tomorrow due to minor infection or being open to dirt.

As for bartering... I never buy the first time I see them. I find out what their bottom line is by preparing myself to NOT buy at all my first time in the store/ booth. I then can gauge how bad they want the sale and how low they are prepared to go. If it meets my satisfaction I can walk back at any time to get it. If it's close I tell them the next time what my $ line is and see if they can match it or if we can then come to an agreement.
Never stand across a booth, counter or table from them. Always try to get beside them so it's more 'chummy' like you are trying to help each other out with the sale.
I also do my homework before hand on bigger purchases to find out what they paid for it, what is a realistic retail price and what they can get away with selling it for. I don't want to pay a good retail price when I barter, I want a good wholesale liquidation price!
I also try to dress just rich enough to afford what I want to buy but not so nice that they think I can spurge a bit extra. (Ie leave the nice watch at home for a computer, it shows disposable income you don't want to bring attention to)

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Originally posted by nusty ...but not so nice that they think I can spurge a bit extra. (Ie leave the nice watch at home for a computer, it shows disposable income you don't want to bring attention to)

On the contrary, you dress up and they take you more seriously and would know you're leaving the store with the merchandise. Also, (if you're an old fat dude like me ) you look like you've probably pinched pennies to get where you are so they also could expect you to bargain their pants off.

Actually, no, I think it's mainly cuz I'm brown.

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Originally posted by FunkyGroove ROFL!!!!!!!!! i cried! u r my star of tonight

aww even with my nose so bright?
pleasewont u let me guide ur sleigh tonight!

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Originally posted by fayraree On the contrary, you dress up and they take you more seriously and would know you're leaving the store with the merchandise. Also, (if you're an old fat dude like me ) you look like you've probably pinched pennies to get where you are so they also could expect you to bargain their pants off. Actually, no, I think it's mainly cuz I'm brown.

I think I'll stick with my way. You want to look enough that you can afford what you're bargining on but looking too good with show that you splurge on things (like your clothing). This varies if you are out buying a rolls royce obviously but tyring to dress at the top and maintain a look that you pinched pennies to get to where you are, are different looks completely.
You want to be taken serious enough, but never want to portray you are made of money unless in fact you are, and are prepared to pay full price like everyone else who is made of money.
if you have to err though, I agree dress a bit better than the situation rather than a bit worse.

I'd say that's a pretty sweet deal. Depending on the monitor size and ram, it's a good price.

Your fucked though, that warranty would have really come in handy, trust me. Treat your laptop like royalty. My laptop here is saved by the future shop warranty, what would be like a 2k repair is now free (2-4 week wait but fuck it, worth it)...

Serously man, be really fucking careful, you can get fucked over real bad if that shit breaks.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy aww even with my nose so bright? please let me guide ur sleigh tonight!

the brightest of the noses happen to the best of us

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Originally posted by r5a Good deal yeah, I'd say so. How big is the screen? Your fucked though, that warrenty would have really come in handy, trust me. Treat your laptop like royalty. My laptop here is saved by the future shop warrenty, what would be like a 2k repair is now free (2-4 week wait but fuck it, worth it)... Serously man, be really fucking careful, you can get fucked over real bad if that shit breaks.

Yeah I'd be extra cautious considering it was display model too, you never know what kind of snot nosed little kid sneezed a virus into it.

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Originally posted by r5a I'd say that's a pretty sweet deal. Depending on the monitor size and ram, it's a good price. Your fucked though, that warranty would have really come in handy, trust me. Treat your laptop like royalty. My laptop here is saved by the future shop warranty, what would be like a 2k repair is now free (2-4 week wait but fuck it, worth it)... Serously man, be really fucking careful, you can get fucked over real bad if that shit breaks.

lol the reason why i didnt get the warranty is because my friend repairs laptops. so parts are cheap and pay 0 labour

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy lol the reason why i didnt get the warranty is because my friend repairs laptops. so parts are cheap and pay 0 labour

that sounds like a good enough warrenty to me.

What was the listed price of the laptop?

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Originally posted by LiANG What was the listed price of the laptop?

That's what Iwas wondering. Post make and model number. How much RAM and what kind of vid card did you get?

Centrino, meh, pretty standard: no deal
DVD-CDRW burner, completely standard, within two months, they won't even manufacture readers anymore: no deal

ALso, as said above, depends on size of screen and everything else. was it 800 after taxes, or before?

when your going to make a deal with a sales person. know about everything your buying and where you can get it cheaper.
my brother is a sales manager and he bought a brand new car listed at $32,000 for $27,000 out the door.
basically you want the make the guy want your business. if you act like your hot shit, then he'll blow you off. sound interested but know when the sales man is lying and such.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy so what negotiating tricks do u have? lets share them.

Negotiations are one of the most important aspects of my job. Being an adjuster handling bodily injury claims it all comes down to selling a number... trying to convice someone their injury is worth $x.

I find the best way to arrive at your desired number is to set that number ahead of time. Calculate exactly what you want the settlment to be well before you start negotiating. You will also need to figure out roughly what the other sides starting figure and bottom line will be. Chances are their bottom line and your acceptable top end figure will overlap. In order to get the number closest to where you want it you need to structure your offers (also ahead of time) to end up at the number you want. I will normally make my second offer only slightly higher then my opening position, my third offer will generally be a significant step upwards (to show I take their concerns seriously), my fourth offer will only be a slight improvement from my third and will be tabled with the caution that there is nearly no room to move (however, my fourth offer will generally be 75-80% of what I'm actually willing to spend).

Always be willing to walk away if the numbers get above your pre-determined top end.

One thing to remember is that different people are motivated in different ways. For some it's all about money but usually there are other needs that one is looking to satisfy through the negotiation. A lot of times it's the desire to be heard, feel important, appear effective/useful. If you can give some concessions to satisfy these non-monetary motivations you'll often realize a significant monetary savings in return. Subsequenly, you must know your opponent.

Always remember.... if both sides walk away unhappy with the deal then the negotiations were a success.

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