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Going to buy monitor speakers, sb audigy good enough?

Do I need to buy a new soundcard as well? Does the Audigy colour the sound?

tnx

Which audigy? 4?

Creative cards aren't the best in the world. The quality of your sound is only as strong as the weakest link in the chain (including cables). So if the monitors you buy are excellent and your soundcard sucks then it will suck.

If you buy a soundcard you should realy go for something from M-Audio. Also E-Mu is just a daughter company of Creative and they use the same parts as in the soundblasters and sell them for more. Creative is excellent for games and films but aren't realy made for music production.

And if you do go out and buy a card it's a good idea to find out if it is supplied with it's own ASIO-drivers. If it is then they had music production in mind when they where making the cards.

The benefits of better sound cards can be numerous. Not only better sound quality. But also things like direct monitoring, which makes sure all your fader level indicators run in realtime. Also zero-latency, which means that when you record to audio the recorded part is exactly sequenced in the spot where you played the sound. Also a good card would take away some of the CPU strain from you DAW so that automations run in real time. So you can start using things like controllers and MIDI-keyboards without the controllers commands being delayed.

Right, that's all. I could go on all day but i think you get the picture.

kind regards,

CD

tnx!! Well all those benefits dont matter much to me, all I want is my card to not colour the sound (just output the sound as it is)... I expect sound cards don't alter the sound no matter how cheap they are?

I think I have an audigy 2 or 3, it has its own asio drivers. Can I keep it for use with expensive monitors you think, in other words will my audigy not alter the sound (frequency boosts and stuff)??

i have a audigy 2 plat...

i dont like what im hearing

imo...I think its high and mid range are quite muffered and sounding quite incomplete...

i will suggest getting an E-Mu or M-audio soundcard.

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Originally posted by Felix.Hoo i have a audigy 2 plat... i dont like what im hearing imo...I think its high and mid range are quite muffered and sounding quite incomplete... i will suggest getting an E-Mu or M-audio soundcard.

Damn, this sux, more expenses...

btw I am going to buy one of these monitors:

tannoy reveal 6 / 5a
genelec 1030
blue sky prodesk
mackie HR624
Dynaudio Bm5a
M-Audio Studiophile BX5

You checked the Tapco s5?

The basic M-Audio Sound card is only like �50

I listened to the Tapco 5A's and their sound isnt too great.

thois

i have the m-audio bx5a monitors...and they rock! theyre perfect for my apt, not too big like the bx8a, and not too small like computer speakers...plus the blue power light on the monitors look so cool

im also using the maudio 2496 soundcard with it, and everything sounds great!

Im big fan of guillemot/hercules soundcards... they are cool looking, reliable and the sound is pretty good for low budget so you might want to check into those too...

hope someone can "+1" me on it?

tnx guys

i think i will buy the Audiophile 24/96 or EMU 0404

Allright, i've done some research. It seems Audigy's quality is just fine.

There is one problem: The ASIO drivers can only run in 48 khz instead of 44.1 khz. So i'm forced to run my Music Production Software in 48 khz. When I turn the sampling rate of my Music Production Software to 48khz it gives me all kinds of warnings: Some VST''s can act strange, samples can sound strange etc...

Also: I've read somewhere that if I use 48khz, I need to convert all my samples to 48khz too. Is this true?

If so, I will buy a new soundcard after all.

Converting to 48 isn't so bad. Most sequencers do this automativaly as soon as you import the sample into your project. And this only take about 4 seconds.

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Originally posted by Thois tnx guys i think i will buy the Audiophile 24/96 or EMU 0404

I can vouch for the 24/96. It's the best audiocard i have ever had.

The audiophile 24/96 got dam good reviews in computer music magazine and is supposed to have the same codec�s as the Delta 1010.
You cannot go wrong with the audiophile 24/96 as the sound quality is amazing and the latency is really low with asio drivers.

Link to review http://www.computermusic.co.uk/revi.../audiophile.asp
Your monitors will tell you how your music really sounds, but your monitors are only as good as your soundcard.
Sometimes you have frequencies on a vst and samples that sound bad and you cannot hear them, you put a cd in the car or hi fi system and you notice a high pitch squeal or noise on your speakers that wasn�t there when you where making the tune.
People always told me my kicks where weak or there was noise on my tunes that I couldn�t hear till I got a decent soundcard, I then got some better monitors and I�m hearing things I never noticed before.
Now I know I can put them right, I�ve got samples that suck and synth presets that sound bloody awful and I won�t use them anymore because of the soundcard and monitors.
Don�t have a weak link in your system!

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Originally posted by tranceinjection The audiophile 24/96 got dam good reviews in computer music magazine and is supposed to have the same codec�s as the Delta 1010. You cannot go wrong with the audiophile 24/96 as the sound quality is amazing and the latency is really low with asio drivers. Link to review http://www.computermusic.co.uk/revi.../audiophile.asp Your monitors will tell you how your music really sounds, but your monitors are only as good as your soundcard. Sometimes you have frequencies on a vst and samples that sound bad and you cannot hear them, you put a cd in the car or hi fi system and you notice a high pitch squeal or noise on your speakers that wasn�t there when you where making the tune. People always told me my kicks where weak or there was noise on my tunes that I couldn�t hear till I got a decent soundcard, I then got some better monitors and I�m hearing things I never noticed before. Now I know I can put them right, I�ve got samples that suck and synth presets that sound bloody awful and I won�t use them anymore because of the soundcard and monitors. Don�t have a weak link in your system!

cool tnx! that sound card is pretty cheap (99 euros), i think i will buy it.

btw I think I am going to buy KRK RP-8 monitors, read some good things about them... Of course I have to hear them first in the store.

Other contenders were:
alesis mk2 active (my budget is higher than these so...)
mackie HR824 (too expensive)
Dynaudio Bm5a (hmmm a bit pricey)

Thinking back I remember the Soundblaster Cards didnt have a very linear output. Were coloring the sound a lot.

Of course real monitors will still improve the way you work compared to standard hifi speakers. However u wont have a frequency range as linear as e.g. with the ProTools AD/DA Chips

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Originally posted by qiushiming thois i have the m-audio bx5a monitors...and they rock! theyre perfect for my apt, not too big like the bx8a, and not too small like computer speakers...plus the blue power light on the monitors look so cool im also using the maudio 2496 soundcard with it, and everything sounds great!

I swear to god, this blue light has increased the intensity of almost every high I've ever had since I've purchased them.

And check out the way it bounces off of plastics, and fill a glass of water and watch the way that blue laserledthing creates little hallucinations in it.

It's bad ass!

well i have only read bad things about those speakers (pro reviews which I trust the most), so...

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Originally posted by Thois tnx guys i think i will buy the Audiophile 24/96 or EMU 0404

i have an audiophile24/96 and i dont think you can have better quality for less than 100�
it really sounds perfect!
buy it!

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Originally posted by djalexe i have an audiophile24/96 and i dont think you can have better quality for less than 100�

Though I'm not using that card, I totally agree.
Best below 100�

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Originally posted by dEEkAy Though I'm not using that card, I totally agree. Best below 100�

i have alesis m1mk2 monitors and i am really happy because once again they werent that expensive and i think it also is the best quality u can get for less than 400�... do u agree?

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Originally posted by djalexe i have alesis m1mk2 monitors and i am really happy because once again they werent that expensive and i think it also is the best quality u can get for less than 400�... do u agree?

Damn, I went to the audio store today and forgot to test these.

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Originally posted by Thois Damn, I went to the audio store today and forgot to test these.

than go back to the audio store!
they really sound perfect!
many djs have them
mike shiver to name one...

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby I swear to god, this blue light has increased the intensity of almost every high I've ever had since I've purchased them. And check out the way it bounces off of plastics, and fill a glass of water and watch the way that blue laserledthing creates little hallucinations in it. It's bad ass!

PICS!

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Originally posted by djalexe than go back to the audio store! they really sound perfect! many djs have them mike shiver to name one...

ok, will do that

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 You checked the Tapco s5? The basic M-Audio Sound card is only like �50 I listened to the Tapco 5A's and their sound isnt too great.

Would really disagree there. They are actually quite flat which a lot of people dont really like, especially those looking for a bright sound in their monitors. I've A/B against mackies on them and they have good depth and a similar sound... can hear reverb tails all the way to the floor for example, and very honest sound... They will show up the flaws in your mix pretty easy.

They are still budget monitor ofcourse and will take some getting used to... mainly that they seem to dip slightly at around the 2-4 Khz range, but I chose them easily over Tannoy Reveals, Yamaha, Alesis M1Mk2 etc..

Stay away from M-audio sound cards too. I've had LOTS of trouble with my 24/96 and the midi latency isnt the best. Drivers havnt been updated in years either, so have had various conflicts with other devices. Go MOTU or Echo I'd say...

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