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Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-06-2002 01:42:

need help to mix

hey ive got a problem u knnow when im trying to do a set I cant pass from a song to another without crossing the beats and that makes a horrible effect. I m thinking my mixer is shit and the platines are shit too .
I WANT TO DO PASS TO ANOTHER SONG SMOOTHLY LIKE ALL DJS
(maybe im not good?)
i dont know u think i must change my mixer or my ears?
(i wont tell you what kind of mixer it is, such a shame)
Thx for help

Posted by mellankali on Feb-07-2002 18:32:

hey-

while i'm a rather new dj myself, i find that you just have to keep practicing. if you get a bad mix between two tracks, it could be that maybe they just wont mix. there are a lot of songs like that.

otherwise you need to work with your kill switches, like the bass, or the treble. i find that sometimes if you kill parts of tracks while mixing you get a smoother mix. if you use a crossfader, adjust the volume levels and you mix. or if you just use the volume slide bars work with those more.

most importantly practice your beat mixing, thats the hardest part, and i've yet to get it down myself.

anyways, i;m not sure if that answered your question. but good luck

Posted by YuVaL on Feb-07-2002 19:39:

dude..
dont blame ur mixer for ur off beats!!.. just keep practicing!!.. ull get it right

Posted by Jazz on Feb-07-2002 21:32:

It's all about beat matching ... if you want to make it 100x easier on yourself, get a mixer with a bpm counter... even though some people consider it "cheating", it's a hell of a lot easier than trying to match beats and adjust the pitch purely by ear.

Posted by RavingLunatic on Feb-08-2002 01:29:

NO!

don't get a mixer with BPM counters..

ESPECIALLY for learning..

you will regret it i promise..

Posted by quddha on Feb-08-2002 03:51:

bpm counters are trash. they're not very precise, you can't rely on one if you want to hold a mix longer than 5 seconds, and they only work for songs that go a steady boom boom boom boom. breakbeats will fuck it up good. ;D besides, you'll be garbage when faced with someone else's mixer.

if you want to use bpm's as a way to learn how to beatmatch, count them yourself... but most ppl will tell you when you have the feel for the beat, you won't need to know the bpm of a song...

i admit, thats how i learned to mix at first, on vtt, by tapping out the beat, but now, i can throw on any two vinyls from my crates and get them matched in no time.

Posted by phatdelt on Feb-08-2002 06:34:

just keep practicing. i guarantee you will get in soon enough. took me a couple of weeks - and for me it suddenly just 'clicked'

i hope it will for you too.

listen for the different types of bass the songs produce to create a distinction and get to know your music very well. that will help tremendously.

the way i learned is to just throw the songs together and listen to the beats as they meshed together or against each other. after you can match them to the same BPM then worry about cue points.

just my .02

good luck! i know you'll do well

Posted by Great Outdoors on Feb-08-2002 13:59:

Actually, that brought me to a question which I have been wanting to ask for a fairly long time. Are there songs which you can't mix into no matter how good you are? I'm not talking about the limitations of equipment (because if you get a 15 and a 200 BMP track and try and mix them on a pair of Technics or any turntable for that matter of couse you're not going to succeed) but theoretically speaking, surely, ANY song can be mixed together if they have beats, right?

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-08-2002 19:48:

ok thanx for these advice
hum how can i put the same bpm to each song? with the pitch thingy?
i dont know...
for example theres no way mixingthings like mauro picotto and something trancy
let me know...

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-08-2002 19:49:

sure ill do my best!!

Posted by TranceFool on Feb-09-2002 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by marco.V
ok thanx for these advice
hum how can i put the same bpm to each song? with the pitch thingy?
i dont know...
for example theres no way mixingthings like mauro picotto and something trancy
let me know...

I dont wanna be bad, but why did you bought turntables while dont even knowing what the function of the pitchcontrol is??

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-09-2002 14:36:

because i love techno and trance and that is my passion....
but you noticed that it was not the question

Posted by YuVaL on Feb-09-2002 16:24:

dude... why did u buy equipment if u dunno what a pitch is?!?

do u know how to beat match on TT'z?

Posted by Eugene on Feb-09-2002 16:27:

:thumbs up:

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-09-2002 17:08:

Because i think that in every thing u do there is first THE BEGINNING (u know when u learn...)
But why asking that question since i hazve an equipment now and i need help?
So plz answer instead of laughing at me...

Posted by YuVaL on Feb-09-2002 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by marco.V
Because i think that in every thing u do there is first THE BEGINNING (u know when u learn...)
But why asking that question since i hazve an equipment now and i need help?
So plz answer instead of laughing at me...

well.. do u know what 4/4, 16/16, 32/32 barz mean?

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-09-2002 17:58:

yeah i know...
im doing trax u know...
i just have problems with the beatmatch...

Posted by YuVaL on Feb-09-2002 18:08:

quote:
Originally posted by marco.V
yeah i know...
im doing trax u know...
i just have problems with the beatmatch...

oh okay.. im sorry i dont really do tt'z so i can't help ya there

Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-09-2002 18:11:

ok
anyway thx for your time!!!!