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Posted by D-res on May-07-2006 21:57:

protein shakes and other various supplements

ive had friends who make big protien shakes every time after they work out because it supposedly helps build muscle faster and helps the muscle repair itself from the work out faster or something. is this true? if i continue my current dedicated work out routine, whats are the good options?


Posted by XoxidE on May-07-2006 22:01:

steroids work better.


Posted by D-res on May-07-2006 22:09:

but i'm not out to fuck myself up so lets keep the responses within reason. before you post, think to yourself, am i actually offering anything to this thread that will at all be useful to D-res


Posted by Saka on May-07-2006 22:10:

I'm wondering the same thing too, I know theirs whey or however you spell it, that helps you build muscle. But what are the best options, and lol at steroids, I like my pen0r the size it is thankyou


Posted by D-res on May-07-2006 22:13:

the most common suppplements that i hear people use for this is protien, whey and creatine but i have no idea what does what


Posted by Rinster on May-07-2006 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by sakabatou
I'm wondering the same thing too, I know theirs whey or however you spell it, that helps you build muscle. But what are the best options, and lol at steroids, I like my pen0r the size it is thankyou


im not sure about the protein shakes... my dad take them everytime before training, he says they work fine. but dont drink them if your not going to train... because they will fatten you fast.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on May-07-2006 22:19:

Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
ive had friends who make big protien shakes every time after they work out because it supposedly helps build muscle faster and helps the muscle repair itself from the work out faster or something. is this true? if i continue my current dedicated work out routine, whats are the good options?



yes

I drink Muscle Milk Peanut Butter Chocolate after a work out. It helps turn fat into muscle.

Muscle Milk is my fav but I also hear ppl like Pro-Peptide more because it has 3 different types of Protein.. where Muscle Milk has only the whey protein.


Posted by MeLLyMeL on May-07-2006 22:23:

I recommend BSN products because they really do work. Creatine has some water retention so if ur going to be taking creatine then you would need to drinka lot of water.. i'm not a FULL expert on products but i know more then any average person so I may be a bit wrong because i don't take it.

Cell Mass [creatine ]sells alot and NO-Xplode which is creatine + Nitric Oxide which gets into ur blood vessells to get u that 'pumped' feeling.


Posted by l�cid on May-07-2006 22:38:

jizz is naturally high in protein.


Posted by Aquarian on May-07-2006 22:40:

Protein builds muscle. It's the same thing as when you eat a steak, but in concentrated form. You really have to calculate and manage your intakes because too much protein does have some nasty side effects, and alot of people who use protein supplements devellop problems. You're better off just watching what you eat and keeping a diet strong in protein from regular foods.


Posted by DigitalMP on May-07-2006 22:47:

Re: Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
yes

I drink Muscle Milk Peanut Butter Chocolate after a work out. It helps turn fat into muscle.

Muscle Milk is my fav but I also hear ppl like Pro-Peptide more because it has 3 different types of Protein.. where Muscle Milk has only the whey protein.


Muscle Milk is shit...read your labels luv. You're putting in more saturated fat in your body than probably any food you eat.

Fat doesn't get turned into muscle.

When protein is digested, it is broken down until all that is left is an amino acid compound, and finally released through the walls of your small intestines to repair burned and broken muscle fibers (the result of weight training), which is what makes them grow.

Glutamine, which is another amino acid, is a supplement commonly used to assist in the process of protein synthesis. This is because hard trainers need more protein to rebuild their muscles (1.5-2g per lb of body weight), and glutamine helps assure the efficiency of that procedure.


Posted by Orbax on May-07-2006 22:50:

without telling you why, im going to suggest Casein protein in the morning. Follow a workout with a decently carby meal to get glycogen levels back and then hit up some whey protein.

Creatine and Noxplode/superpump250ish kind of products do help but only if you are working out correctly. Most people work out till they are pretty tired and sweaty and stop. If youre not in there straining for every last inch dont bother, cuz all youve been doing is cardio with minor toning training and the supplements are all made to give you 1-2 last reps in a hard set. Growth happens after you push your body beyond its current limits.

Protein is hard on you kidneys though, and I suggest free range omega III eggs and sweet potatoes as a solid base for your diet.


Posted by Mako on May-07-2006 22:51:

Cue in bukkake comment in 5 4 3 2 1...


Posted by MeLLyMeL on May-07-2006 22:56:

Re: Re: Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Muscle Milk is shit...read your labels luv. You're putting in more saturated fat in your body than probably any food you eat.

it is the one with the highest fat content but most of the fat are medium chain trygllicerides that have a slightly lower claorie content, and are more rapidly absorbed and burned as energy.

MCT is also shown to increase calorie burning compared to other fats.

Copy + Paste..^

sorry dude.. I beg to differ about Muscle Milk being shit. over all it is better tasting and it has that time release ..


that's just my input though.. ur a more hardcore trainer.. i'm not trying to be a body builder.


Posted by OZzz on May-07-2006 23:08:

20-30 gramns of whey protein with a slow digesting carbohydrate source such as oats or brown rice is your best bet for before the workout. It is necessary to do this before a workout so you have fresh amino acids flowing thorough your bloodstream and plenty of carbs to keep your energy levels up. Taking in a lot of protein and carbs after a tough workout is even more important that beforehand. Your body is really bad at turning calories into fat after a workout so this is a prime time to load up on protein and carbs. The 45 minutrs after a workout are known as the "window of opportunity" since your body is so efficient at using nutrients to build muscle at this point. I usually go with around 50 g's of protein and up to 100 g's carbs postworkout..................but thats just me


Posted by THE_Chris on May-07-2006 23:08:

My advice would be to stop drinking all that artificial shit, drink more water and eat decent food

If you need supplements you're not eating the right food.

Solution: Eat the right food.


Posted by OZzz on May-07-2006 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
My advice would be to stop drinking all that artificial shit, drink more water and eat decent food

If you need supplements you're not eating the right food.

Solution: Eat the right food.


i disagree. sometimes supplements are a great way to get in extra nutrients in protein that would normally be more difficult to get. i agree you that it is most important to eat plenty of "real" food, but supplements can be a great way to "supplement" your diet.


Posted by DigitalMP on May-07-2006 23:36:

Re: Re: Re: Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
it is the one with the highest fat content but most of the fat are medium chain trygllicerides that have a slightly lower claorie content, and are more rapidly absorbed and burned as energy.

MCT is also shown to increase calorie burning compared to other fats.

Copy + Paste..^

sorry dude.. I beg to differ about Muscle Milk being shit. over all it is better tasting and it has that time release ..


that's just my input though.. ur a more hardcore trainer.. i'm not trying to be a body builder.


Still way too many fat calories, especially for a girl. You don't have testosterone, so your muscles can't grow anywhere near as much as these supplements can assist. But it's ok, I'm not going to rain on your parade.

Also, you'd look funny all jacked up


Posted by DigitalMP on May-07-2006 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
If you need supplements you're not eating the right food.


lmfao.


Posted by Danila on May-07-2006 23:57:

I dont take carbs post workout.

No shakes will substitute the real foods So stick to chicken, steak and lean meats. They are called "supplements" for a reason. Without good diet the shakes are worthless.

The reason whey protein is good post workout is because it is very fast digesting. Your body needs nutrients post workout. My PW shake usually is 1.5 scoops of whey and some dextrose.


Posted by miamitrance04 on May-07-2006 23:58:

Melly rules haha! I drink MuscleMilk too! I've been drinking musclemilk for about 6 months now before and after my workouts. I've gotten the most results out of this supplement compared to anything else i've ever taken. Plus cookies and cream is like the best tasting shake, i drink it just to drink it sometimes even if i'm not working out.


Posted by JohnPaullino on May-08-2006 00:02:

Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
ive had friends who make big protien shakes every time after they work out because it supposedly helps build muscle faster and helps the muscle repair itself from the work out faster or something. is this true? if i continue my current dedicated work out routine, whats are the good options?


Protien-Yes its true, after a workout Whey Protien is your best choice. If you wiegh 200lbs you need to consume 200-220g's of protien a day. Your best bet is to have 5-7 meals every 2-3 hours, this improves metabolic efficiency and puts you in a muscle building, fat burning state.

Carbs-You should use the Glycemic Index and aim for low count carbs like Oats, brown rice, sweet potatoe, and strawberries. If you avoid carbs you won't have any energy for the next training day.

Fats-They're necessary for the production and formation of hormones, and they help your body absorb calcium and fat soluble vitamins. They also slow down the release of sugar and amino acids into the bloodstream, good fats are Olive Oil, Flaxseed Oil, Omega 3+6 fatty acids.

Supplements-BSN products are really good for example NO-xplode and Cellmass and they are explained up top ^^


Posted by DigitalMP on May-08-2006 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Danila
I dont take carbs post workout.


high-GI carbs are essential post-workout to replenish depleted glycogen levels.


Posted by JohnPaullino on May-08-2006 00:08:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: protein shakes and other various supplements

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
Still way too many fat calories, especially for a girl. You don't have testosterone, so your muscles can't grow anywhere near as much as these supplements can assist. But it's ok, I'm not going to rain on your parade.

Also, you'd look funny all jacked up


Yeah your right, way to much.


Posted by ivanbee on May-08-2006 00:10:

creatine


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