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Posted by Porky on May-09-2006 08:41:

Read This! Cure for Cancer!

Researchers Say They Can Cure Cancer In Mice

POSTED: 4:41 pm EDT May 8, 2006
UPDATED: 9:46 pm EDT May 8, 2006
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WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. -- Monday night brought stunning news about the battle against cancer.

Researchers at Wake Forest University School of Medicine said they have found a cure for cancer -- in mice, that is.

However, they are hoping that what they have learned will someday be applied to human treatments.

Three years ago, Wake Forest researchers discovered a mouse that could not get cancer no matter how hard they tried to give it the disease.

Now, they said white blood cells from that mouse's descendants were injected into ordinary mice with cancer and their disease was completely wiped out.

The treatment worked with a variety of cancers, including those similar to end-stage human cancers.

�This is a really remarkable recovery from a very aggressive tumor,� Wake Forest cancer researcher Dr. Zheng Cui said.

The mice did not suffer any side effects from the treatment. They had no problems with rejection.

The goal now is to find a human treatment that could avoid the rejection problem by using a patient's own cells.

White cells from a cancer patient would be combined in a test tube with the specific anti-cancer gene and then given back to the same patient.

�The hope would be that those activated white blood cells would be able to treat that person's cancer successfully,� Wake Forest Pathologist Dr. Mark Willingham said.

In mice, the white blood cells were able to find the cancers no matter where they were located in the body, suggesting that the cancer cells produce some kind of signal that the killer cells can detect.

The treatment also worked with naturally occurring cancers.

Next steps include trying to determine exactly how the cancer-fighting mechanism works, and Wake Forest researchers are working on a specific test that can indicate cancer resistance in humans.

A cure is still a long way off, but they believe that, like mice, there are humans out there with genes to fight cancer.

For example, out of all people who smoke, only a small percentage get cancer. What keeps them safe is still unknown.


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Posted by tatgirl on May-09-2006 10:22:

Amazing! Lets hope they find the human link.


Posted by Mako on May-09-2006 14:56:

I don't know. I'm always skeptical about the way the media over simplifies scientific research as finding a "cure" for cancer. Cancer is a much more complicated disease than it is portrayed, with an OBSCENE amount of causes. And finding a "silver bullet" so to speak, doesn't sound just right. I'm not saying that the find of these scientists is utter crap, just that I think there's more to it than just white blood cells "homing" in on cancer cells, especially since the immune system doesn't necessarily react to the cancer cells since they "look" like regular cells.

But who knows, maybe there's more to their research than this article portrays. Anyone got the names of the scientists?

Edit: it's always good to find a positive in this case mind you.


Posted by Porky on May-09-2006 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mako
I don't know. I'm always skeptical about the way the media over simplifies scientific research as finding a "cure" for cancer. Cancer is a much more complicated disease than it is portrayed, with an OBSCENE amount of causes. And finding a "silver bullet" so to speak, doesn't sound just right. I'm not saying that the find of these scientists is utter crap, just that I think there's more to it than just white blood cells "homing" in on cancer cells, especially since the immune system doesn't necessarily react to the cancer cells since they "look" like regular cells.

But who knows, maybe there's more to their research than this article portrays. Anyone got the names of the scientists?

Edit: it's always good to find a positive in this case mind you.



who knows.. maybe they are able to find someone (human) with super cancer fighting white blood cells, then use those to help those in need....




Posted by geroin on May-09-2006 17:03:

good news
hopefully by the time we're old there will be a cure


Posted by nusty on May-09-2006 21:51:

This article is great news, however it is bad news for TA that there are only 5 posts in this thread while some dumber threads gets hundreds of replies. it's sad really that the good stuff gets no attention on TA.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on May-09-2006 21:54:

Wow...great article and an amazing breakthrough. Let's hope it helps them to find the cure for humans!


Posted by DarkWater on May-09-2006 21:57:

Sounds a little too simple. Why is only a local market reporting on it if they just cured cancer?


Posted by neuromancer on May-10-2006 00:35:

that is very good news indeed!


Posted by oldschool420 on May-10-2006 00:59:

Certainly a step in the right direction! At least they know that this gene does exist, and it can be used in different mice to cure cancer. Let's hope they can find this gene for humans and harverst/apply it correctly.


Posted by Hantu on May-10-2006 02:04:

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Targeted Virus Compels Cancer Cells To Eat Themselves

Article Date: 06 May 2006 - 7:00am (PDT)

An engineered virus tracks down and infects the most common and deadly form of brain cancer and then kills tumor cells by forcing them to devour themselves, researchers at The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center report this week in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

The modified adenovirus homed in on malignant glioma cells in mice and induced enough self-cannibalization among the cancer cells -- a process called autophagy -- to reduce tumor size and extend survival, says senior author Seiji Kondo, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor in the Department of Neurosurgery at M. D. Anderson.


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At the university of texas they have been able to engineer a virus to seek out and kill forms of brain cancer in mice. So as a few of you have stated this is all good news. With all these strides being made it shouldn't be too too long before even more big advancess like this made. And, I don't think that it'll take a lifetime before their able to find and test this on humans.


Posted by Mako on May-10-2006 02:28:

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Originally posted by Hantu
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At the university of texas they have been able to engineer a virus to seek out and kill forms of brain cancer in mice. So as a few of you have stated this is all good news. With all these strides being made it shouldn't be too too long before even more big advancess like this made. And, I don't think that it'll take a lifetime before their able to find and test this on humans.


lol. The adenoviral or retroviral treatment of cancer has been around for years. No breakthrough to be honest. Viral vectors are very useful, but the idea of it being given to people MIGHT be a bit risky since the virus has small chances of bring back its destructive attributes.

There are lipid vectors which are also much safer and easier to use.



quote:
Originally posted by DarkWater
Sounds a little too simple. Why is only a local market reporting on it if they just cured cancer?


The article is too simple. They are blowing up the facts, making it look like it's some sort of discovery of a "silver bullet" treatment.


Posted by Crazy Serb on May-10-2006 02:41:

the most comonly known cure for cancer is OXYGEN!

cancer cells apparently cannot survive in the presence of oxygen (or something to that effect).... however, since Oxygen cannot be trademarked and sold in a can by the gov't and whoever else is in charge of all the "medicines" in this world, they are looking for a more profitable cure that's in some pill/vaccine form


Posted by dance2dabeat on May-10-2006 03:16:

wow..that is pretty amazing
we can only be hopeful and keep doing our best to make things get even better!!


Posted by shanny on May-10-2006 03:19:

As someone with both cancer survivors and people who have died from cancer in my family I couldn't be happier to hear about something like this.
Here's hoping it comes through!


Posted by Jem_hadar on May-10-2006 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Amazing! Lets hope they find the human link.


Hell yes. Im gonna appreciate a cure for skin cancer one day i have no doubt.

god bless the sun


Posted by Mako on May-10-2006 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Hell yes. Im gonna appreciate a cure for skin cancer one day i have no doubt.

god bless the sun




quote:
Originally posted by nusty
This article is great news, however it is bad news for TA that there are only 5 posts in this thread while some dumber threads gets hundreds of replies. it's sad really that the good stuff gets no attention on TA.


Yeah it's a damn shame man.

Summing things up for me in regards to the topic, I think it is good that they are made a breakthrough like this. However, I just don't like how the news media just blows scientific facts out of proportion and "mirages" so to speak the actual facts.I take newspaper articles like these with a pinch of salt. Read with care .


Posted by Pett on May-10-2006 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazy Serb
the most comonly known cure for cancer is OXYGEN!

cancer cells apparently cannot survive in the presence of oxygen (or something to that effect).... however, since Oxygen cannot be trademarked and sold in a can by the gov't and whoever else is in charge of all the "medicines" in this world, they are looking for a more profitable cure that's in some pill/vaccine form


source pls.
and thats one conspiriousy theroy im just not buying, you must be out of your mind.


Posted by Crazy Serb on May-10-2006 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
source pls.
and thats one conspiriousy theroy im just not buying, you must be out of your mind.


theory or not... I don't have time to look up the sources now, but hey, feel free to spend some time on google on your own

maybe I am out of my mind... but what if I'm not?


Posted by Pett on May-10-2006 06:39:

wow, i can't believe i never heard of that one b4, might have to look into this some more.


Posted by Trance Nutter on May-11-2006 01:17:

If that were true (re oxygen), it doesn't matter about patenting, or money making. It would be used in hospitals, in fact if it did actually work and it wasn't patented people would be using it for the very fact it wasn't patented.
All it would take is a hospital or uni researcher to follow up on it and they would be world famous, nobel prize shit right there.

And you can patent the use of something.
For example, a process called PCR which is used to amplify DNA (you've seen it done on CSI I'm sure). That process is patented using a naturally occuring protein (Taq polymerase). The process of treating cancer with oxygen can be patented in the same way.

In addition, most malignant tumours have blood vessels that suply them with, of all things, oxygen which is required for tumour growth.

The reason (if true) it isn't widespread would be because of efficacy or practicality issues, not patents.

I'm too busy atm to look into this but if you want to send links I'll read them at some stage.



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