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Playstation 3

November 17th

$499 version w/20 gigabyte HD
$599 version w/60 gigabyte HD


http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705652p1.html

There are some pictures/videos of Final Fantasy XIII

drool.......

more here

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/05/09/e...res_ps3_gamble/

check out the render of tiger woods. its ridiculous.
ps3 is going to wipe its ass on the xbox 360

If graphics is all it has going for it (I'm not including the 6-way sensing gimmick or the fact that there's no universal online service) I'm afraid this costly beast will not fair too well.

Im getting this for my hubby. His birthday is a few days before the release.

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Originally posted by ZzZ The Goddess Im getting this for my hubby. His birthday is a few days before the release.

That day would probably be the right time to start waiting on line to pick up one of these units.

Oh and, by the way, with the cheaper model:

* You lose 40GB (20GB base vs. 60GB)
* You lose HDMI output
* You lose MemoryStick / SD / CompactFlash slots
* You lose 802.11 b/g wireless

On the bright side:

* You save $100

the fact that it'll be equipped with blu-ray is probably what will sell it as an electronic device with the capabilities of a gaming system, although not one of the most versatile gaming units out there, it'll be significantly priced lower than your average blu-ray player. i'm hoping all this negative spec is just another marketing ploy to WOW consumers once it drops. It's a marketing tactic, I admit it and it's evident other companies use it to, ie: Nintendo Wii etc.

Drum up negative feedback (which evidently shows the mass interest) to down play expectation, then release a heavily modified (from original spec sheet) during launch. It might even drive the price upwards to the $700's if in fact this is what they are doing.

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Originally posted by kid nyce the fact that it'll be equipped with blu-ray is probably what will sell it as an electronic device with the capabilities of a gaming system, although not one of the most versatile gaming units out there, it'll be significantly priced lower than your average blu-ray player. i'm hoping all this negative spec is just another marketing ploy to WOW consumers once it drops. It's a marketing tactic, I admit it and it's evident other companies use it to, ie: Nintendo Wii etc. Drum up negative feedback (which evidently shows the mass interest) to down play expectation, then release a heavily modified (from original spec sheet) during launch. It might even drive the price upwards to the $700's if in fact this is what they are doing.

Unfortunately, Blu-Ray does not have an established base yet. The first few titles are slated to release next month (I might be mistaken) and the prices are that of DVDs when they first came out. I can definitely see the device being used simply as a multimedia package, a few years down the line, when there are more titles to purchase for cheaper prices and when more people will own higher definition televisions but until then, it's only going to appeal to 3 core audiences: the Sony fanbase, the Blu-Ray fanbase, and people willing to dish out the money because they have it (the rich folk).

In other news, the chances of the final specs changing from what was presented the other night are close to zero. Even if that, they will be so slight that it wouldn't matter. Sony has basically laid all it has on the table right now. Just gotta wait and see how it all plays out.

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Originally posted by Yan * You lose HDMI output

it will be worth it for the HDMI to get the nicer model



Blu Ray will be around for a long time though and thats why sony is wiling to take a hit this year knowing its going to be really expensive. having a 27gig standard disc gives development of hd images alot more room. there have been reports they can scale blue ray dvds to 200gig per disc.

but yeah the dvd drive was the most expensive component, i also read they were having big problems with the cell processor yields and thats gotta be solved before august at the latest if we want to see those price tags.

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Originally posted by madhattared it will be worth it for the HDMI to get the nicer model Blu Ray will be around for a long time though and thats why sony is wiling to take a hit this year knowing its going to be really expensive. having a 27gig standard disc gives development of hd images alot more room. there have been reports they can scale blue ray dvds to 200gig per disc.

So very true.

I'll wait until the price goes down to purchase one...

Or maybe I'll just pull an XBOX 360 and purchase 2 at release. My 360 was free thanks to selling the other for $800 bucks. Win!

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Originally posted by madhattared but yeah the dvd drive was the most expensive component, i also read they were having big problems with the cell processor yields and thats gotta be solved before august at the latest if we want to see those price tags.

Sony's gotta get their act together. Their release date looms.

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Originally posted by Yan That day would probably be the right time to start waiting on line to pick up one of these units. Oh and, by the way, with the cheaper model: * You lose 40GB (20GB base vs. 60GB) * You lose HDMI output * You lose MemoryStick / SD / CompactFlash slots * You lose 802.11 b/g wireless On the bright side: * You save $100

Sony is retarded. Have they learned nothing from the Xbox 360 launch? Nobody wants to get a stripped down system and in their case, especially not one that ultimately can't be upgraded to match the more expensive system.

It's stupid of them to waste time and money making a second production line for the cheaper system. They should just devote all their facilities to production of the premium system and then maybe develop a cheaper system after demand for the premium one has died down a year or so later.

Edit: Just saw this spec sheet on HardOCP...



At least they'll both be able to read SACDs.

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Originally posted by Yan If graphics is all it has going for it (I'm not including the 6-way sensing gimmick or the fact that there's no universal online service) I'm afraid this costly beast will not fair too well.

+1

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Originally posted by Choobak Sony is retarded. Have they learned nothing from the Xbox 360 launch? Nobody wants to get a stripped down system and in their case, especially not one that ultimately can't be upgraded to match the more expensive system. It's stupid of them to waste time and money making a second production line for the cheaper system. They should just devote all their facilities to production of the premium system and then maybe develop a cheaper system after demand for the premium one has died down a year or so later.

Actually, it seems like all those options that will be removed can be restored with the 60 gig HDD. Considering the HDDs are removable, it shouldn't be too awkward to see people purchase the cheaper (but not really) bundle and only later on purchase the HDD which gets them the full capabilities of the PS3. Not a bad idea for those that are strapped for cash but still want to get their hands on some gorgeous games and good franchises.

uuhhhh uggghh ahhhhhhhhh...


i just creamed my boxers after seeing the video of ffxiii...

I don't believe those prices are official. Those prices should be a bit lower than Xbox360.. as planned I believe.

I haven't been excited about a FF game since X to be honest. And before that, VIII. So FFXIII should be a good one although it's not turned based. ;-)

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE I don't believe those prices are official. Those prices should be a bit lower than Xbox360.. as planned I believe. I haven't been excited about a FF game since X to be honest. And before that, VIII. So FFXIII should be a good one ;-)

The prices have been set in stone, unfortunately. I don't remember any plan to have the price lower than the 360's. (source?)

Ken Kutaragi has even gone on the record, before, and stated that the device will not be an easy purchase. And that was months ago! Might have not even been this year. Hmm.

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Originally posted by Yan The prices have been set in stone, unfortunately. I don't remember any plan to have the price lower than the 360's. (source?) Ken Kutaragi has even gone on the record, before, and stated that the device will not be an easy purchase. And that was months ago! Might have not even been this year. Hmm.

Can you link me about price info? I'm having some debates on mirc :>

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE Can you link me about price info? I'm having some debates on mirc :>

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=343991

Scroll down a bit in my first post.

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Originally posted by Yan http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=343991 Scroll down a bit in my first post.

Ahaha. Well $500 isnt bad considering my brother and I will be putting our money together.

I will solely be buying this unit for FF....

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE Ahaha. Well $500 isnt bad considering my brother and I will be putting our money together.

My wallet cries when it sees those prices.

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Originally posted by fr0st I will solely be buying this unit for FF....

Risky business.

You should invest in the Wii, as well. A few Final Fantasy titles will be released for the console. You'll see many vids and screenshots of them come tomorrow. Maybe even today!

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Originally posted by Yan Actually, it seems like all those options that will be removed can be restored with the 60 gig HDD. Considering the HDDs are removable, it shouldn't be too awkward to see people purchase the cheaper (but not really) bundle and only later on purchase the HDD which gets them the full capabilities of the PS3. Not a bad idea for those that are strapped for cash but still want to get their hands on some gorgeous games and good franchises.

Do you have a link to where you're getting that info from? Does that mean the 60gb hard drive will have an hdmi port, a card reader, and a wireless transmitter and cost $100?

My point though is that it's stupid for Sony to waste production capacity on the cheaper model when there will be plenty of demand for the more expensive one at least until the summer of 2007.

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Originally posted by Choobak Do you have a link to where you're getting that info from? Does that mean the 60gb hard drive will have an hdmi port, a card reader, and a wireless transmitter and cost $100?

I doubt the HDD will be $100, standalone. I'm guessing $200, at best.

No linkage however, why else would the HDD be removable (there are a few reasons which might not bode well with my answer... lol. But read on, anyway)? Also, it would be totally unfair for the people to purchase a console and not be able to use it for it's intended purpose (superior graphics, wireless gameplay and compatability with various formats). Does Sony intend consumers to purchase a whole new PlayStation 3 to get all the things the lesser model doesn't employ?

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Originally posted by Choobak My point though is that it's stupid for Sony to waste production capacity on the cheaper model when there will be plenty of demand for the more expensive one at least until the summer of 2007.

It is! I'm not arguing that at all. I wouldn't be surprised if the 360 Core bundle will start disappearing off shelves, via Microsoft's orders, so as to only sell the Premium Bundle.

It's all just a matter of offering some affordable units, at start. Some people actually don't mind the "bare bones" version.

FUCK YA! Putting my money away already for this. Gonna splash for the 600.

My god, FFXIII looks amazing. Just saw the video. If that's how you play in real time, then Killzone's video is real time as well. Has to be.. 360 better watch out, seriously.

i think i'm gonna go to all the EB Games stores today as I can possibly find and put deposits on any launch PS3's. That way I can sell them on ebay right before xmas and become super rich.


i learned my lesson from xbox360. this one will sell out like hotcakes and the demand should be even crazier than the xbox360.

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