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do DJ's get pushed around or do they do the pushing

thanks guys for answering my previous silly newbie posts.

in my radio single version, it starts off with a full on texture (main theme), maybe 10 parts at once.


in my 1st club remix I am planning to have 16 bars intro of just drums.

then bars 16-32, the drums continue with a few little motifs.

then with a crescendo bang at bar 33. the same texture as the opening (main theme)
of my radio single smashes in.

at this point i am basically demanding that the crossover fader will be on my track fully.
its an explosive type of theme texture, and i am wondering if maybe DJs dont feel like giving it full view, or they forget.

i am scared that i might need that opening theme to come in later.

because the club re-mix will suffer without that crashing theme being played.

in effect i am demanding (oops) that the DJ has totally crossfaded to my track at bar 33.
and maybe some djs dont want to be pushed around (wack me over the head).

cut the shit dude seriously. either keep all the questions in one thread or just stop entirely.

whats so funny

there's your whack over the head lol

hey you guys

as i said in a previous post i have heard such immaculate live sets by djs in every respect, harmony, texture and everything else.
i am curious to know why. sorry if i have upset some.

just trying to catch up abit quickly

solid thread..

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Originally posted by technomonster hey you guys as i said in a previous post i have heard such immaculate live sets by djs in every respect, harmony, texture and everything else. i am curious to know why. sorry if i have upset some. just trying to catch up abit quickly

Your very unclear in your questions...be a little more clearer and then maybe you wont get as much from us...

i'll give you an example

the other night i went to a club to see one of my favorite DJ's who is so good that i even checked out whether he just put on a cd HE MADE AT HOME and was bluffing with the vynil on turntables.

but no he wasnt, there he was working frantically away.

he was excellent at having a theme or anthem burst into prominence
from the 2nd turntable which was gradually faded in while the 1st turntable was playing.

it is so tight as far as harmony and texture, the gelling was incredible. it was like the MOZART of Djing, so balanced.
i couldnt notice how long the intro of the second track on the 2nd turntable was for this to happen.

i have even downloaded the Virtual dj demo TO SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS,
and i guess his artistry with the crossover fader was the key because he seemed to artistically balance 2 records at once, meaning that the crossover fader was not always in the middle.

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Originally posted by technomonster i'll give you an example the other night i went to a club to see one of my favorite DJ's who is so good that i even checked out whether he just put on a cd HE MADE AT HOME and was bluffing with the vynil on turntables. but no he wasnt, there he was working frantically away. he was excellent at having a theme or anthem burst into prominence from the 2nd turntable which was gradually faded in while the 1st turntable was playing. it is so tight as far as harmony and texture, the gelling was incredible. it was like the MOZART of Djing, so balanced. i couldnt notice how long the intro of the second track on the 2nd turntable was for this to happen. i have even downloaded the Virtual dj demo TO SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS, and i guess his artistry with the crossover fader was the key because he seemed to artistically balance 2 records at once, meaning that the crossover fader was not always in the middle.

Confused still, what are you trying to ask us? About crossfadding tracks? Most trance DJs don't use crossfaders, they use the volume faders, crossfader in the middle. So your asking if a DJ would crossfade like this guy did....to your track? Why? I'm confused, are you talking about harmonic mixing?

Any guesses on whose second account this is?

hey spirit, thats probrably what he might have been doing.

it is my interprrtation about the crossfader, but he was definately using that as well.

i could definately hear vynil 1 at say 30 % volume and the Vynil 2 at 70% at various times and it all sounded neat.if that makes it any clearer.

i guess i am wondering if a loud theme i have at bar 33 will force the dj to cut out the other track totally.

just wondering if that makes my track 'dj unfreindly' and boring because it onlly allows for one method, and not allow for creativity.

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Originally posted by technomonster hey spirit, thats probrably what he might have been doing. it is my interprrtation about the crossfader, but he was definately using that as well. i could definately hear vynil 1 at say 30 % volume and the Vynil 2 at 70% at various times and it all sounded neat.if that makes it any clearer. i guess i am wondering if a loud theme i have at bar 33 will force the dj to cut out the other track totally. just wondering if that makes my track 'dj unfreindly' and boring because it onlly allows for one method.

The DJ will most likely fade the tune out as the theme goes out and bring in the next track and overlay it on top, gradually bringing in the volume, the highs, mids, lows etc. If it has a beat after the theme, it's DJ friendly, if it just has the theme and cuts off it might not be but the DJ can always find a way to use this track as filler or for an end track, they could also just harmonically mix it with another track, but you usually have 64, 96 or 128 beats after the "theme". It all depends on the track...and the style..I assume by theme you mean like a breakdown of some sorts or a main melody?

you're an embarassment to this country

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Originally posted by A.J. you're an embarassment to this country

yup.


Plus theres a whole section for exactly this kind of question (although I'm still a little confused as to what the question actually is)

A.J WROTE

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you're an embarassment to this country

youll actually find that i'm an okay musician, in different genres classical and world.
i have been working on a new dance beat and style for years and although it has trancy aura, i have found that i cant apply TRANCE methods for it too work,

so I am trying to make sure that it will be fine with DJs.

because it is slightly trancy, it is trance Djs who i am going to first ask to play it.

TRANCE NUTTER WROTE

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Plus theres a whole section for exactly this kind of question (although I'm still a little confused as to what the question actually is)

mmmmmmmm, nice if you could tell me where.

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Originally posted by technomonster mmmmmmmm, nice if you could tell me where.

ummmmmmmm, the "production studio" maybe?

I suggest looking with your eyes open
(Thanks Mr. Mystery, what a classic line)

Why don't you just produce tracks how you want to? Some of the best tracks/artists are those that didn't stick to any sort of boundaries or tried to fit-in, rather they did something different that they liked.

Technomonster,

You don't get to decide what DJs get to do with your music. They do.

YOU don't tell them how to spin, and THEY don't tell you how to produce. That's the way it works. The DJs that like your tracks will buy your records and mix them in the way that suits their purposes. Your control and say in this relationship ends when you press your music to wax.

The end.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter ummmmmmmm, the "production studio" maybe? I suggest looking with your eyes open (Thanks Mr. Mystery, what a classic line)

No problem, I aim to please.


Well, not really.

just make a track 4/4 beat 16 or 32. make it 6 - 8 mins long. the dj will take care of the mixing.

just post the damned track up in the producer forum and get feedback there!

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery No problem, I aim to please. Well, not really.

You see your reputation precedes you Nik - wooopaaaz Dude

I cant believe you people are actually taking this guy seriously... This is unbelievably blatently not real. He is talking about how the DJ artfully slides the crossfader... Its called mixing

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