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Posted by Beamish on Feb-06-2002 21:35:

Mixing with 3 vinyls?

I have seen on a couple trance vids that some Dj's uses 3 vinyl players when they mix. I always thought that you only used 2. Can any1 explain this to me. And is it any good mixing with 3?

Posted by RavingLunatic on Feb-06-2002 23:34:

it's a whole nother thing..

you can use 3 songs instead of 2..
the math is a little different too.

i had a pro DJ explain this to me.. it's like remember when you were a little kid, and you sung "row row row your boat"? then after the first line, someone else starts up, then someone else?

that's how mixing with 3 tables works. in theory anyway..

start track 1. drop track 2 at the breakdown, mix in AS you drop track 3, then mix in track 3 as track 1 goes out, and drop a new record, mix in at the breakdown.

in this way, you are only playing the last half of each record (usually the best half), and there are always 2 tracks playing at once.. like.. juggling 3 balls.

it's complicated, and of course every song is different, there are no hard and fast rules..

also, some people use 2 tables to mix, and one just for effects, samples, scratching, previewing the next track etc.

Posted by DJ Chrono on Feb-07-2002 03:48:

I've also heard that people sometimes throw in achappella vocals on the third table, and just mix on the other two. I have a question though, how would a crossfader work with mixing three sources? i guess it wouldnt.. I dont really know, my mixer only has two channels anyways

Posted by Bellie on Feb-07-2002 14:09:

Mixing with 3 turntable is very hard.You need to be very skilled.
Im not sure you guys are familiar with techno dj's,but Christian Varela ALWAYS mixes with 3 tt's.He even sometimes playes with 4!!!Last week i saw him here in holland @ Awakenings (technoparty) and he really ROCKED!.You can use a 3rd tt for loops (short track that will never stop,until you stop it yourself ) for example.
Misstress Barbara (also techno) also uses 3 decks when she plays.

GREETZ!!

Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-07-2002 16:48:

if anyone has seen Bad Boy Bill spin live, then you'll know that he's just plain mad on the decks
he uses 3 TT's and it's just all mad scratching and effects to some nice house *drool*

Posted by RavingLunatic on Feb-07-2002 17:46:

Yeah man! Bad Boy Bill is the man!
Carl Cox does this a lot too.

3 table mixing all the way..

3 decks (or even 4), works well with house, because it's simpler than trance, and the melodies aren't so overpowering..

trying to mix 3 trance melodies would be tough...

i've also heard some awesome breakbeat 3 deck mixing.

Posted by mellankali on Feb-07-2002 18:36:

well, my friend who mixes acid jazz and some hardcore uses three tt's. he pretty much uses the third table for adding loops and effects into the track, also like previously said for adding some acapella tracks. i would love to have a third tt, but i have no money and i'm not sure that i would even be able to use it, heh.

Posted by phatdelt on Feb-07-2002 19:49:

I've love to get my hands on a third turntable. There have been lots of times when I've wanted it just for convenience so i couldn't have to flip through records, plus i think it would help me alot setting up one maybe two tracks ahead.

plus there have been times when i think 'this and this loop or beat' would sound really good playing softly behind the two tracks already mixed.

as for the crossfader question, usually you can select with lines in the crossfader reacts with. however i'm not sure how that would react with the other lines. (Line 1 and 3 are selected for the x-fader how would 2 and 4 play? I think normal - but don't quote me)

I still have yet to use the cross fader as it is. just a matter of preference though.

Posted by Tim_G on Feb-08-2002 00:05:

Are there any videos of 3 turntables in action somewhere?

Posted by Great Outdoors on Feb-08-2002 14:03:

Anyone knows of any existing trance DJ that does the 3 deck thing?

Posted by djdawn on Feb-08-2002 19:32:

dj martink (Hamburg) uses 3 turntables sometimes, but mainly when he's spinning prog. I don't see a use for a third tt when spinning uplifting/epic... I have a great vid of Carl Cox demonstrating 3 deck mixing, but it's only on tape...

Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-08-2002 19:44:

There is 1 Japanese DJ that uses 7 and 8 dex !!!!!

Posted by nils on Feb-08-2002 21:55:

hehe... the japaneses

Posted by phatdelt on Feb-08-2002 22:17:

i've seen christopher lawrence use 3 tables. not for his whole set, but watched him for a good 45 minutes use three - then went off to dance

i've seen dfuse use three at times as well.

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
Anyone knows of any existing trance DJ that does the 3 deck thing?

Posted by Mark on Feb-09-2002 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Great Outdoors
Anyone knows of any existing trance DJ that does the 3 deck thing?

i heard from someone that DJ Jean used to do it. don't quote me on that though cuz i didn't say it.

Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-09-2002 08:11:

3 decks for trance is almost useless...

and as for multiple decks, did keoki spin on like 6?

Posted by DJ Fien on Feb-10-2002 20:35:

I heard PvD used 3 TT @ his Gallery Turnmills set that is always floating around.

I know the up and coming UK DJ Paolo Mojo uses 3 TT's really powerfully to mix up tracks, and then house/breaks DJ James Zabiela uses 3 turntables to do live remixes/combos of songs.

Posted by jon jon on Feb-10-2002 23:16:

more common than you think

I don't too many dj's that use 3 decks for the whole set, but I have seen many many dj's use that third turntable for mad tricks

On that Mayday video of Paul van Dyk, does he not use 3 decks for like 20 seconds when he mixes in "For An Angel", just to have it mixed out like 10 seconds later. I forget but I'm pretty sure he mixes that one with 3 decks, it's very fast. It can be done on two, but for some reason I remember three! eh!

It's kinda pointless for trance, but for techno or house, it's key.

Keoki only needs one. Kidding*

Jon

Posted by hapamoto on Feb-11-2002 01:05:

hmm.. maybe i should try this.. i still have my belt drive tables.. but i dunno how to hook them up w/ my 1200's because i only have a 2ch mixer.. well actually i have 2 mixers if i could somehow hook those up..

Posted by harcourt on Feb-11-2002 01:21:

Really useful regardless of genre when you want to play a short short track. I have 2 tables and 1 CDJ, I'll match up both the CDJ and the 2nd TT while the first TT is playing. If a song is short, it would be fairly hard to match up the next song in such little time (being what I would define as a beginner). Marco V used three tables at Sensation, I didn't see any of it but you can hear it (or maybe a CD, but regardless, 3 sources in use), when Chris Cowie - Roamer comes on, he has Saccoman - The Recall (Picotto Answer Mix) going throughout the song in the background, then brings in Tiesto - Flight 643 for a bit, all of this going on in too short a time to be swapping records back and forth and queuing/matching up on two tables.