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Posted by 4am on May-11-2006 23:32:

Production forums seem pretty slow lately

Just came back to TA after a few months and this forum seems far less active. Have all of you suddenly become trance masters and left the building?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-12-2006 03:05:

Well there's only ever so much to talk about production, really...


Posted by SgtFoo on May-12-2006 05:10:

well, if you look through all the countless threads about "how to do " you could honestly have enough info to not need to post another thread.

I do find it disappointing myself, as a couple years ago, I loved this section of TA as a reference area, but now it's just annoying finding more people producing for the wrong reasons or asking questions in a new thread, that was probably answered 10 minutes ago in an adjacent thread.

Some people expect to find ALL the answeres here while some of us do it the hard way and go to school to learn about it or buy/borrow a book to research it, which can also get bothersome.

Too many people seem afraid to just "try it before you ask about it!"

I think the quietness is rampant among more than just the TA production forums, as the profitability of producting EDM has lessenned with the oncoming death of vinyl records within the EDM world.

./end rant


Posted by Pjotr G on May-12-2006 06:02:

nah, it's just the sun


Posted by Drik on May-12-2006 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
nah, it's just the sun


And thank god it's finally out
Been some nice barbecues lately


Posted by wayfinder on May-12-2006 17:27:

Maybe if we all pool our efforts we can each manage to post one of these a day:

a) Help me recreate this sound
b) how is this melody
c) what is sidechaining?

And if you wanna go the extra mile,

d) HELP!!!!!!!!!! im DESPERITE!!

(put whatever in there, as long as it's a giant waste of time for the reader and the content is not visible from the outside, not even in the hover text)


Posted by substorm on May-12-2006 20:17:

Well, you are right about the sun, a lot of bbq�s snd beer! And the Icehockey WC is full on, and Sweden is doing good! .

And i have 2 signed releases coming up, worked alot on that. Now im working on a remixjob, and i have a full time job, so time just goes on for me!


Posted by Speactra on May-12-2006 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by wayfinder
And if you wanna go the extra mile,

d) HELP!!!!!!!!!! im DESPERITE!!


That almost made me fall out of my chair!!
No offence palm, but it's funny


Posted by Mr.Mystery on May-12-2006 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by substorm
And i have 2 signed releases coming up, worked alot on that. Now im working on a remixjob, and i have a full time job, so time just goes on for me!

You worked that one in really smoothly.


Posted by substorm on May-12-2006 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You worked that one in really smoothly.


What?

Hehe, sorry, just had to!


Posted by KilldaDJ on May-12-2006 23:47:

i never really bother ask any questions, just get down and fiddle around with vsts and sounds and eventually it will get there


Posted by zodiac9 on May-13-2006 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo

I think the quietness is rampant among more than just the TA production forums, as the profitability of producting EDM has lessenned with the oncoming death of vinyl records within the EDM world.

./end rant


Won't digital take over when vinyl disapears? A number of DJs are starting to go digital, and more will begin to switch over. I'm not even sure vinyl is dying, as you say. If there's a demand for it, it will always be around. EDM doesn't seem to of ever been very profitable anyway, from what I understand. Seems the way to make real money with EDM is to be a touring DJ/producer. The money is made from gigs, not record sales. Anyway, this what I hear from various DJ/producers I've met along the way. I got into composing and producing Trance just for the fun of it, I doubt I'll ever get rich doing it. I don't DJ either.

Anyway, this forum has helped me quite a bit, I've learned some important things here. I'm doing fine now, I don't really have any questions or much to add. Sometimes I want to discuss the business side of EDM here, but I feel it would just get buried by a bunch of "HELP!!!!!!!!!! im DESPERITE!!" posts. I'm somewhat new here, so as far as I know it's always been like that. It might sound mean, but I really don't have the time, or motivation to help out the newbie producers here. As already said here, a lot of the questions can easily be answered by a FAQ, or a little research.


Posted by wrzonance on May-13-2006 08:11:

They're not slow. Just redundant.

There's a noob every minute. And they're all too lazy to search the tutorials. That sums up the majority of the traffic in PS


Posted by Derivative on May-16-2006 01:14:

quote:
I do find it disappointing myself, as a couple years ago, I loved this section of TA as a reference area, but now it's just annoying finding more people producing for the wrong reasons or asking questions in a new thread, that was probably answered 10 minutes ago in an adjacent thread.

Some people expect to find ALL the answeres here while some of us do it the hard way and go to school to learn about it or buy/borrow a book to research it, which can also get bothersome.


I sometimes think this but you know what? phuck it. Ill help anyone who asks for it politely. In the end, the person who most stands to benefit from the lesson is me, because I am actually pushing my self to do writeups. Build sounds. Try to recreate sounds for other people. Things I probably wouldnt do a whole lot of, if I didnt give myself a kick up the arse occassionally.

The person asking the questions? They can go deeper if they want and do what I do - do massive writeups for other people. Try to explain in words why they are doing this or that when mixing/sound designing. I still dont feel that I fully understand something if I cant explain it to a complete newbie and get them to understand it.

Or that person can just kick back and not do the learning. You know - just get the presets out of the tutorial or read it up, get what they want to know for their song and leave it at that.

It makes little difference to me how people use my resources. You can outright steal my patches for your own songs if you want. But you cant keep felching other people's sounds forever. At some point you will have to do the learning. Might as well be now. IF you just put it off you will never get around to doing it.

If we all had the time and lack of other life commitments to produce music in every spare moment, maybe we would all have the same drive to get better and perhaps we would all write tutorials and build sounds for each other. It doesnt work like that.

If you want to get ahead, just get what you can out of these boards - even if it seems like nobody is contributing except you. As long as you are working, and building sounds and learning stuff from your own writeups and your own attempts to recreate sounds for others, you are getting better. And the people who arent doing it? Well, they arent going to get all that far.


Posted by Sean Walsh on May-16-2006 04:47:

I used to always love doing write-ups and tutorials on these forums, because as my tae kwon do teacher used to say, you don't truly know something until you try to teach it to others. That said, I'm no longer in university with a paltry 15hr per week schedule, and I simply don't have the time to get into many details unless I'm up late at night drunk. The fact that every other fucking topic on this forum seems to be some idiot asking about sidechain compression or removing vocals from a track doesn't help matters either (hi, learn how to fucking SEARCH before asking questions that have been asked literally hundreds of times in the past year).

But forgive me, I rant.


Posted by Derivative on May-16-2006 17:30:

Heh, I work fulltime, hand out CVs on weekends and the time thats my own is all spent on producing and learning. I sleep 4 hours a day. Get a little sound design in before I go to work, and hit FL Studio when I come back from work.

If you really wanted to, you can make time for producing. You just wont sleep all that much on top of a 45 hour week



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