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Posted by mnemonic. on May-12-2006 05:51:

which mixer should i get, why not DJX 700

im a beginner DJ, im looking for a mixer, and stumbled upon the behringer DJX 700, ive read some good things about it, and really bad things about it, im just going to be using my equipment (two/three CDJ 800's, two for sure, 1 pending, and a mixer, whichever it may be) for bedroom DJ'ing and backyard house party sorta get togethers, is the behringer something im going to be pissed off with after a couple of months and regret buying?

ive heard in one thread they're reliable, and unreliable in another

if not the DJX 700 what should i get in its place? sure id love an Allen & Heath, for a reasonable price, 350 Cad lets say, but i know thats impossible...

id like something thats either 3 or 5 channels, with effects and digital BPM Counter, any suggestions, take into account my use for them.

(although the CDJ's have the BPM on display id like to have them on the mixer for convenience sake)

Suggestions? opinions? views? Comments? Concerns? Complaints?


Posted by qwerty_svk on May-12-2006 06:21:

i was searching last night and i found some good things about it and some bad too.... that's because bad thing is that it's low quality and the good is the prize for what it's offers...

but i really don't know if the quality's so bad
i know dj's opinions, but they can't compare behringer with pioneer.. it's not possible.... i want to see prize/performance rating


Posted by Trogdor on May-12-2006 07:06:

Do not buy the Behringer. Period. There is nothing good about that mixer. If you want it for the BPM counters, they are so wrong that it will make it harder for you to beatmatch.

On that note, use your ears, not counters. Even Pioneer ones aren't always accurate.

You're buying two nice CD players, why not get a nice mixer, too? $350 ca is not a lot of money. Maybe you can stretch and get an Ecler Nuo3?

If that's too much, then you can always get a Vestax VMC-004. There's nothing else I can recommend with 3 or more channels at that price point.


Posted by Greedy on May-12-2006 07:50:

i would say get the behringer. Its only $150 here in the states and you cant get a mixer with that many channels for under $250 new. Dont bother with the effects or BPM counter on the machine, just use the basic stuff. The only real pains Ive experienced with the mixer are the channel faders. Theyre just inaccurate but thats always workable.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-12-2006 08:06:

the 700 is a piece of shit, but i dont regret buying mine (it taught me a whole lot about EQing). it was fine to learn on. but do you really need all those channels? im sure theres a comparably priced 2 channel mixer thats of a better quality.


Posted by Psiweaver on May-12-2006 08:50:

yeah i'd be looking at a used vestax or something not the behringer crap. i had a behringer 2 channel mixer when i first started and channel faders started to bleed before too long and was just basicly a piece of shit. strongly recommend against. get something better spend a little extra your getting nice cdj's may as well get a mixer to match. and learn to beatmatch with your ears not counters as that will help you much more in the long run.


Posted by mnemonic. on May-12-2006 11:59:

thanks guys, this is really helping,

how about an opinion on the Vestax PCV 275 ?


Posted by mnemonic. on May-12-2006 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor

If that's too much, then you can always get a Vestax VMC-004.
[B]

this one looks promising, i'll look into it when i get home from school


Posted by simms327 on May-12-2006 12:17:

i have a DJX700 and have no complaints at all with it

(Except for the BPM counters which are shite, but i dont use them anyway)

for CAD$350, spend an extra 50, and get a numark DXM09

it has three channels, effects, kills, and is a good mixer.

maybe if you bargain, you can get it down to $350.

what kind of CDJs did you end up buying


Posted by T-Soma on May-12-2006 12:28:

If you have possibility of a third cdj then i say ditch the third for now and go for a better mixer. Since your just a begginer you will be better off learning the basics before you learn 3 ch mixing.
Save up just abit of extra cash and go for a xone32 or ecler. Maybe one of the dnx500/dnx800/dnx900 might be good for your needs.


Posted by Trance Nutter on May-12-2006 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
how about an opinion on the Vestax PCV 275 ?


I have one, a good mixer.
A lot of people here have them.
Sturdy, good sound (for the price), just a nice mixer.


Posted by alefort on May-12-2006 13:34:

I've said it before, and I will say it again: The DJX-700 is PERFECTLY FINE for bedroom DJs. I bought mine for under 200$ CAD on ebay. I have had it for 6 months now and not a single problem with it. Many people think it is shit because the sliders and EQ knobs are on an exponential scale, not linear. Just deal with it, it doesn't mean it is any worse.

It is a cheap piece of equipment, and if you are aware of this, it performs perfectly well. If you are expecting something with mindblowing good quality, don't purchase the DJX 700. But trust me, it's cheap, but it is still a workhorse. We've abused one at parties, every week, for well over a year. Still holding up great!


Posted by simms327 on May-12-2006 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by alefort
I've said it before, and I will say it again: The DJX-700 is PERFECTLY FINE for bedroom DJs. I bought mine for under 200$ CAD on ebay. I have had it for 6 months now and not a single problem with it. Many people think it is shit because the sliders and EQ knobs are on an exponential scale, not linear. Just deal with it, it doesn't mean it is any worse.

It is a cheap piece of equipment, and if you are aware of this, it performs perfectly well. If you are expecting something with mindblowing good quality, don't purchase the DJX 700. But trust me, it's cheap, but it is still a workhorse. We've abused one at parties, every week, for well over a year. Still holding up great!


completely agree. i have one, and so does my friend. its a perfect mixer, and for a beginner, at under under $200 canadian, you cant go wrong.

i want a xone, but dont NEED one.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-13-2006 08:33:

^^ i agree, i just think there are wiser choices of equipment in the same price bracket. unless of course you need those extra channels. still, i swear my EQing is 200% better coz after using the 700...


Posted by Chris Allen on May-13-2006 21:00:

I have the DJX700 and have a few complaints.

The level changes from 9-10 on the upfaders is as drastic as 6-10 on a Pioneer DJM. It's quite the jump, so you have to practice on that.

The main one issue with Behringer is quality. In Ontario Canada, they actually are required to check their mixer to make sure it's in pure working order and all standards are met. In Quebec, this is not the case as for the USA (I believe).

So for the people in Ontario who have got the mixer and haven't had problems, this is most likely the reason.

That said, I have had a few friends who have purchased the mixer and have had channel's just die for no apparent reason.

If you're a beginner DJ, I have no problems with this mixer, but just be warry.

I would honestly spend the money and get a higher grade mixer right from the start.


Posted by mnemonic. on May-14-2006 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
I have the DJX700 and have a few complaints.

The level changes from 9-10 on the upfaders is as drastic as 6-10 on a Pioneer DJM. It's quite the jump, so you have to practice on that.

The main one issue with Behringer is quality. In Ontario Canada, they actually are required to check their mixer to make sure it's in pure working order and all standards are met. In Quebec, this is not the case as for the USA (I believe).

So for the people in Ontario who have got the mixer and haven't had problems, this is most likely the reason.

That said, I have had a few friends who have purchased the mixer and have had channel's just die for no apparent reason.

If you're a beginner DJ, I have no problems with this mixer, but just be warry.

I would honestly spend the money and get a higher grade mixer right from the start.


thanks man, and all of you guys, i really appreciate the advice youve all given me...i think my decision lies with the...















Vestax VMC 004 FX ! roughly 500 euros, 700+ CAD but my CDJs come the week im getting paid,and i'll wait and save another paycheck after that, should be roughly just enough...will post a pic in a few minutes


Posted by harriz on May-14-2006 01:19:

Re: which mixer should i get, why not DJX 700

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
im a beginner DJ, im looking for a mixer, and stumbled upon the behringer DJX 700, ive read some good things about it, and really bad things about it, im just going to be using my equipment (two/three CDJ 800's, two for sure, 1 pending, and a mixer, whichever it may be) for bedroom DJ'ing and backyard house party sorta get togethers, is the behringer something im going to be pissed off with after a couple of months and regret buying?

ive heard in one thread they're reliable, and unreliable in another

if not the DJX 700 what should i get in its place? sure id love an Allen & Heath, for a reasonable price, 350 Cad lets say, but i know thats impossible...

id like something thats either 3 or 5 channels, with effects and digital BPM Counter, any suggestions, take into account my use for them.

(although the CDJ's have the BPM on display id like to have them on the mixer for convenience sake)

Suggestions? opinions? views? Comments? Concerns? Complaints?


Buy a nice vestax it is probably better build and will have a higher resale value
It will last you a couple of years.
Now with that in mind I will agree with people that say there is nothing wrong with the behringer one.
There is no point in buing an expensive mixer if you are just going to hook it to your home stereo.
Like I see people with 2000 $ mixers hooked up to their picky mini stereo.
Thats fucking stupid. They are just advertizing victims.

If you want sound quality invest in the system that will amplify the sound.
Give me a 150$ mixer with 1500$ pair of near fields over a 1500$ mixer hoocked to a 150$ stereo.
Until you have a good pair of monitors it doesn't fucking matter


Posted by xenoaxe on May-14-2006 01:26:

I own a DJX-700 and 2 CDJ-1000s. I also have a DJM-600 Readily avaialble so I can give an accurate comparison of the 2. Everyone who says the DJX-700 is COMPLETE crap can't be any more incorrect. There are 2 things "wrong" with it. (but how can it be wrong at 150$ usd?). 1 being the effects, out of about 60 or so about 3 of them are worth trying out and actually using. The other problem is the "sound quality". I can tell very easily that it is slightly better on the DJM 600 i use but not enough to justify an extra 400-500$. NO THANKS. Also the DJX-700 isn't a "TRUE" 4 Channel mixer...you can only mix 2 songs at once where as the DJM-600 can mix 3 at once. Other than that...the mixer performs exactly like the 600, as far as the setup goes etc. and one thing that the DJM700 has over the DJM600 are kill switches, for some DJs those are a MUST! If you are just starting out the DJX-700 is perfect for you. Most of the people here at trance addict will discourage new djs from the CORRECT advice rather than evaluating the situation. The honest truth here is that most people who buy expensive equipment will almost do anything to make someone else buy the same shit.

You'll see who they are when you see the flames underneath this post.


Posted by Trogdor on May-14-2006 09:09:

quote:
Originally posted by xenoaxe
The honest truth here is that most people who buy expensive equipment will almost do anything to make someone else buy the same shit.

You'll see who they are when you see the flames underneath this post.
Bullshit. Most people will recommend that a beginner gets quality equipment so they won't end up constantly replacing gear like a lot of people have. I recommended inexpensive Vestax mixers. Good build and quality, and it will last. Unlike the Behringer.

quote:
There are 2 things "wrong" with it. (but how can it be wrong at 150$ usd?). 1 being the effects, out of about 60 or so about 3 of them are worth trying out and actually using. The other problem is the "sound quality". I can tell very easily that it is slightly better on the DJM 600 i use but not enough to justify an extra 400-500$. NO THANKS.
There are two things wrong with these statements. One being that there are any effects on the 700 that are actually worth using. The other that the sound quality on the 600 is only slightly better. It's significantly better, and it's sound quality isn't even that great. The 600 doesn't cost more because it sounds better (which it does), it costs more because it is built from higher quality components, and has a useable effects section and sampler. It is also much sturdier, and will last much longer, under heavier abuse even.

quote:
Also the DJX-700 isn't a "TRUE" 4 Channel mixer...you can only mix 2 songs at once where as the DJM-600 can mix 3 at once.
On both mixers, you can mix all four channels simultaneously. I have no idea what you're basing this on. For 97.3% of EDM DJs (those who mix with upfaders), this is true, anyway.

quote:
Other than that...the mixer performs exactly like the 600, as far as the setup goes etc. and one thing that the DJM700 has over the DJM600 are kill switches, for some DJs those are a MUST!
The 700 is laid out in a similar manner, but the performance isn't even close to being similar to the 600.

Kill switches are not an advantage, especially if they don't work properly. They are a gimmick put on lower quality mixers for the illusion of features. Kill switches are useless, and the only DJs that require them have never used a professional club mixer. Club mixers don't have them. Period.

quote:
Most of the people here at trance addict will discourage new djs from the CORRECT advice rather than evaluating the situation.
The correct advice is to buy a decent mixer, not a DJX-700.

I used to own a DJM-600, btw, and I regularly use a friend's 700. It's really awful. I would rather have a two-channel Vestax than that POS. That would be well worth the extra $50.

Anyway, MikeyN is making the right decision by going with a Vestax. FX or not, it's the way to go. Although personally, at that price point, I would go for the Ecler Nuo3.


Posted by superglo on May-14-2006 15:41:

I own a behringer mixer.
I knew what i was buying.
I knew the problems i was going to face.
I know it'll prolly conk out on me within this year.
But it costs only about a 3rd of the price of a lower end vestax model here.

But hey .. guess what ? I have a mixer to use while i continue saving up for a better mixer. Any mixer beats having no mixer.


Posted by Danila on May-14-2006 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
I own a behringer mixer.
I knew what i was buying.
I knew the problems i was going to face.
I know it'll prolly conk out on me within this year.
But it costs only about a 3rd of the price of a lower end vestax model here.

But hey .. guess what ? I have a mixer to use while i continue saving up for a better mixer. Any mixer beats having no mixer.


thats what I did. I got a crappy mixer while I save up for a DJM or a Xone32 or 62 (leaning towards DJM for the effects though).

Never tried Behringer DJ mixers. I own a Behringer 16 channel studio mixer though and it has lated me 5+ years with no problems. Although I hear their studio equipment is nice while the DJ mixers arent as good.


Posted by RJT on May-14-2006 16:23:

Use the and you'll find plenty of reasons NOT to buy a DJX 700.

People who argue for it's use absolutely astound me. Plain and simple, it's the single worst mixer I've ever played on.


Posted by punjabi on May-14-2006 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
Do not buy the Behringer. Period. There is nothing good about that mixer.


Posted by plaxx on May-14-2006 22:33:

Ok, since his problem is figured out, maybe someone can help me.

Ok, Im pretty confident with ableton live now, using my mouse and keyboard, so i think its time i get some sorta controller for it.

I was looking at the X-Session which clovis bought, and have researched it before, but i wanna know if there are any decent ones.

Also, USB would be awsome, but if it requires a firewire, that'll do as well. I just wanna know what a decent controller is.

I was looking at a few Behringer prods, again, read some good and bad.

O help.

budget = < 500

any thoughts on this?


Posted by Eric Siefer on May-15-2006 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by simms327
completely agree. i have one, and so does my friend. its a perfect mixer, and for a beginner, at under under $200 canadian, you cant go wrong.

i want a xone, but dont NEED one.



I bought a DJX 700 despite the bad reviews and I have no regrets. Its a great mixer for home, and small house parties. A friend of mine has one as well and hasn't had any complaints in a year+ of constant use and still running strong.


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