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Posted by hapamoto on Feb-07-2002 05:49:

question about european languages...

first i'd like to say that this board is the fucking shit because because it straight up is! im glad i found a place where i can converse w/ other dj's and w/ a bunch of people that all share the love of trance.. one thing i've been curious about is that i see that most of you are from europe and in different countries and im just wondering how you all speak english? is english like the official language over there or is it just coincidence that you all happen to speak english? i know that my northern friends (from canada) all speak english anyway (you guys just have accents..hehe) but how is it that you all speak english? im sorry, i just don't know much about europe (i want to learn more because my dad's side of the family is from spain).. anyhow.. clue me in here


Posted by Excite on Feb-07-2002 05:55:

LOL..the dutch, swiss and swedish can speak english better than many americans!
most french speak english but not as well and most younger germans speak at least some english.


Posted by Trance-Canada on Feb-07-2002 05:55:

Yeah Canadians eh...hehe


Posted by raver31 on Feb-07-2002 06:06:

I'm not a lumberjack, or a fur trader...and I don't live in an igloo or eat blubber, or own a dogsled. And I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada, although I'm certain they're really, really nice. I have a Prime Minister, not a President. I speak English and French, NOT American, and I pronounce it 'ABOUT', NOT 'ABOOT'. I can proudly sew my ountry's flag on my backpack. I believe in peace keeping, NOT policing. DIVERSITY, NOT assimilation, AND THAT THE BEAVER IS A TRULY PROUD AND NOBLE ANIMAL. A TOQUE IS A HAT, A CHESTERFIELD IS A COUCH, AND IT IS PRONOUCED 'ZED' NOT 'ZEE', 'ZED'!!! CANADA IS THE SECOND LARGEST LAND MASS, THE FIRST NATION OF HOCKEY, AND THE BEST PART OF NORTH AMERICA! MY NAME IS FUCKIN TRANCERAVER31. I LIVE AND I DIE FOR TRANCE!! AND I AM CANADIAN!!!!!!!!


Posted by hapamoto on Feb-07-2002 06:08:

i think you drank too much coffee man... j/p


Posted by tiesto14 on Feb-07-2002 06:09:

thats a pretty good question that i neva thought about...like people from Germany ????


Posted by zarathustra on Feb-07-2002 06:10:

English is the universal language of the 21st century. It's taught in school as a second language in most non-english industrialized countries.

Also, by studying linguistic origins, we see that English, German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic and Dutch are all Germanic languages. Having thus been derived, these languages will resemble each other somewhat in grammar, vocabulary, etc. thereby facilitating the apprenticeship of one language if one is already fluent in another.

I hope I have provided some insight to your question.


Posted by raver31 on Feb-07-2002 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by hapamoto
i think you drank too much coffee man... j/p


I had to get this burden off my chest.


Posted by tiesto14 on Feb-07-2002 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
English is the universal language of the 21st century. It's taught in school as a second language in most non-english industrialized countries.

Also, by studying linguistic origins, we see that English, German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic and Dutch are all Germanic languages. Having thus been derived, these languages will resemble each other somewhat in grammar, vocabulary, etc. thereby facilitating the apprenticeship of one language if one is already fluent in another.

I hope I have provided some insight to your question.


YEP...that was very informative...cleared it up for me...thanks


Posted by hapamoto on Feb-07-2002 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceraver31


I had to get this burden off my chest.


word!


Posted by lMIlk on Feb-07-2002 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceraver31


I had to get this burden off my chest.
isn't that from a commercial


Posted by Werewolf on Feb-07-2002 06:29:

hmmm interesting question...
I'm not American, German or Canadian...But I still can speak German & English...
never thought, why&how? :P


Posted by raver31 on Feb-07-2002 06:38:

quote:
Originally posted by lMIlk
isn't that from a commercial


u sure know ur commercials


Posted by lMIlk on Feb-07-2002 06:42:

hehe no i heard someone tell me that it was from a commercial i never actually saw it


Posted by Tweak on Feb-07-2002 06:46:

Those Canadians have a bit of a chip on the shoulder eh?
j/k What's the deal with the Queen and you guys?


Posted by raver31 on Feb-07-2002 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Tweak
Those Canadians have a bit of a chip on the shoulder eh?
j/k What's the deal with the Queen and you guys?


fuck the queen. that grumpy dull bitch. we r an independent country. but our constitution is similar to british if not the same (dont know shit about politics that much). pretty gay.(not that britain is gay) but whatever. im not originally from canada so it doesnt affect me. i dont give a squat about politics and shit. im just a pure tranceraver ready to get dropped like an e-tard!!!!!!


Posted by Miss Proximus on Feb-07-2002 06:59:

LOL! none of the europeans has replied to this thread


us ddutchies speak english cuz english is a prohibited course in secundary school

and next to that, the english/canadian/australian/american tv shows and films are subtitled so that way you automatically practice ur spoken english

And most of us speak a handfull of french and german aswell


Posted by raver31 on Feb-07-2002 07:05:

u dutch people are sure talented at learning foreign languages. do u speak english with ur dutch friends or dutch mostly?. u guys have like no dutch accent whne u speak english. dunno.


Posted by kolkiewolkie on Feb-07-2002 08:23:

like miss p already mentioned, we get to know english very well (me especially by watching ALOT of foreign television series). some words we use in our normal language (dutch to dutch) as well, but that's most of the time because it sounds cool :P like 'I'm master' or that Rules!

before I forget: as dutchy you NEED TO LEARN FOREIGN LANGUAGES, cause if you don't no one outside of holland/belgium will understand you... so it has grown into our lives..

about the german language: that is ALOT tougher for me, because I barely speak german people.... but I know a lot of people who can speak german because there company deals alot with germany...

and french.... When I listen to the french television.... hardly understand a word of it... despite of 3 years of learning french @ secundary school==>> actually quite a shame, because france is definately a nice country (with ALOT of beach and sun )

for the rest I need to say I'm planning to learn spanish in the future.... I think that is going 2b the 'english' of the 21 century...

greetz kolkiewolkie


Posted by tu_face on Feb-07-2002 10:32:

its called school... a lot of EU countries have it so the kids learn english from an early age.. this is because english is one of the international languages recognised by the world in general...

e.g. in international courts of law, its all english but with translators etc etc..


Posted by Fatboy on Feb-07-2002 14:51:

In Norway kids start english at the age of 7 or 8. We have it up to we're 17 where we can choose if we want it or not. And the subtitled tv shows and such also helps
Hehe, I've also had french for 5 years, but I couldn't hold a french conversation even if I tried hard

Peace


Posted by reveal on Feb-07-2002 15:19:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
Also, by studying linguistic origins, we see that English, German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic and Dutch are all Germanic languages. Having thus been derived, these languages will resemble each other somewhat in grammar, vocabulary, etc. thereby facilitating the apprenticeship of one language if one is already fluent in another.



actually Finnish does NOT belong to those languages, estonian, finnish, hungarian (and "samiska", don't know what it's calles in english) belong to the finnish-ugrish languages


Posted by Sir. Lunchalot on Feb-07-2002 15:23:

In Germany everyone going to school has to learn english for at least five years, so everyone here understands and speaks english quite good.

BTW: Someone said that only the younger germans speaks a litte bit english. Obviously this person has never been to Germany since, like I already said, everyone learns english in school (since the end WW2 they have to, before that they had to learn Latin and French), and the older (today really old people, who went to school before WW2, learned it when big parts of germany were occupied by the americans and the british.


Posted by Virus on Feb-07-2002 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra

Also, by studying linguistic origins, we see that English, German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic and Dutch are all Germanic languages. Having thus been derived, these languages will resemble each other somewhat in grammar, vocabulary, etc. thereby facilitating the apprenticeship of one language if one is already fluent in another.


As reveal said finnish isnt a germanic language. And English isnt really a germanic language either is it?

And as someone else said. Living in a smaller country you get more influences through media and such from across the national borders. Foreign movies / music / whatever are almost always in english. Naturally you pick up on it.


Posted by Miss Proximus on Feb-07-2002 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Sir. Lunchalot
In Germany everyone going to school has to learn english for at least five years, so everyone here understands and speaks english quite good.

BTW: Someone said that only the younger germans speaks a litte bit english. Obviously this person has never been to Germany since, like I already said, everyone learns english in school (since the end WW2 they have to, before that they had to learn Latin and French), and the older (today really old people, who went to school before WW2, learned it when big parts of germany were occupied by the americans and the british.


yea, but still...I go to Germany around 2 times a year and people merely speak German, since they just don't know how to start an English convo....it's rather sad I think. I wish the German TV Industry would recognize the problem and start putting subtitles instead of putting German voices over the original vioces!


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