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Technics 1200 MK5 vs. Stanton ST-150

What is the better turntable? I'm about to purchase 2 new decks in the coming weeks/months and so it really comes down to this decision. I know the Technics are an industry standard, but if I went with the Stantons and then tried to mix on the technics would it be completely foreign? Or would I be able to adapt pretty easily? The Stantons have higher torque and more features, but the wow and flutter doesn't seem to be as rated as good as the technics.

Need the opinions of the veterans. I already own a table that's alright (Stanton ST-100), but it's discontinued, and I'd eventually go with 2 better tables in the end anyways. So my decision on vinyl mixing is final.


Thanks for the help all.

I use to own a pair of Stanton T.80. Not the greatest, but good starter decks. I know the T.150's got a lot more torque, however I assume its got the same wow & flutter as the t.80 (the w&f of t80 drove me nuts sometimes). Anyways, after owning t.80 for 2 weeks, I couldn't stand to use them anymore, and brought them back and picked up the mk5's instead. Never regretted that decision.

Going from stanton, to techs, was not foreign for me at all. The few things you will notice is that, you have only have +/-8% pitch to play with instead, and no reverse switch. Everything is should be exactly the same and you really should have no trouble adapting.

Cool, thanks for the reply. Which 1200's should I go with though? Would the 1200 MK2's be good enough or should I go with MK5 or even the Grand Master Flash edition ones? Sorry about all the questions, I just want to make the right decision.

They are both equally good.
Some will argue one is better then the other.
Its all just prefrence and if you have sucessfuly started another flame war then stfu

Techs are tried and tested for over 20 years but basically havnt changed alot... Stantons new deck is supposed to be just as relaible but with a few extra bells and whistles.
The techs have been standard but the stantons are being seen more and more in clubs. I own techs right now but if i was buying new decks i would just go for whichever is cheaper. A turntable is a turntable... they both work so who cares?

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy ...the stantons are being seen more and more in clubs...

thats great news. my pair of st-150s are delayed unfortunately, but i think if i were to choose between Techs and Stanton ST-150, id go for ST-150..
p.s. what clubs are they installed in? maybe some famous ibiza ones? just curious

One major difference between mk2 and mk5 i noticed are the zero click on the pitch fader of the mk2. The on/off switch has been redisigned on the mk5's. (im guessing it broke off too easily?) Everything else should be the same, torque, w&f etc.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy They are both equally good. Some will argue one is better then the other. Its all just prefrence and if you have sucessfuly started another flame war then stfu Techs are tried and tested for over 20 years but basically havnt changed alot... Stantons new deck is supposed to be just as relaible but with a few extra bells and whistles. The techs have been standard but the stantons are being seen more and more in clubs. I own techs right now but if i was buying new decks i would just go for whichever is cheaper. A turntable is a turntable... they both work so who cares?

Thanks for the reply, that's cool that the stantons are starting to be used more in clubs so I won't be SOL if I do decide to go with those.
Sorry if this does turn into a flame war, that was/is not my intention and am asking a genuine question on what is the better deck. Thanks

Srsly, why doesn't anyone just realize that Techs are simply the way to go? They have been tried and tested for 30 years, and there is a REASON that they have been the industry standard for all of this time. They are built like tanks (really, I've used a pair of Techs after one of them fell off of a table onto a cement floor. It was dented up but, of course, plugged everything in and worked just like it was brand new). I've heard so many horror stories of Stanton and (especially) Numark decks having their motors die after a year. Rarely do you hear of 1200s breaking down like that.

I dunno dude...the choice seems pretty obvious to me, but if you want to spend all the cash on some decks that look like toys and have some cool bells and whistles, go for it. If you want decks that are reliable, work right every time, and are nuclear bomb proof, go for 1200s.

Well, since you put it like that. I guess the decision is made then .

Alright, you've convinced me. Now the question is, what flavor? MK2, MK5 or the Grand Master Flash edition (MG5's?).

Once again thanks for the help all. I appreciate it.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide I've heard so many horror stories of Stanton and (especially) Numark decks having their motors die after a year.

from what ive read in numerous reviews the Stanton's previous decks is one thing, and the ST-150 is another thing.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide Srsly, why doesn't anyone just realize that Techs are simply the way to go? They have been tried and tested for 30 years, and there is a REASON that they have been the industry standard for all of this time. They are built like tanks (really, I've used a pair of Techs after one of them fell off of a table onto a cement floor. It was dented up but, of course, plugged everything in and worked just like it was brand new). I've heard so many horror stories of Stanton and (especially) Numark decks having their motors die after a year. Rarely do you hear of 1200s breaking down like that. I dunno dude...the choice seems pretty obvious to me, but if you want to spend all the cash on some decks that look like toys and have some cool bells and whistles, go for it. If you want decks that are reliable, work right every time, and are nuclear bomb proof, go for 1200s.

^^has not used Stantons.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide Srsly, why doesn't anyone just realize that Techs are simply the way to go?

what a crap quote.



**Yes I use the Stantons. And I love them, just like many other people. I'm not saying they are better than Techs, but it shits me people who dismiss them out of hand having never even tried them. I have never heard bad stories about St 150's dying, Australia's best equipment store sells more St 150's than Techs, and has had Techs returned due to faults but not an St 150.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter **Yes I use the Stantons. And I love them, just like many other people. I'm not saying they are better than Techs, but it shits me people who dismiss them out of hand having never even tried them. I have never heard bad stories about St 150's dying, Australia's best equipment store sells more St 150's than Techs, and has had Techs returned due to faults but not an St 150.

haha, i was nicely corrected by marsh & nyquist just before you bought your decks. so ill agree with you here. still, i wouldnt swap my 1200s for anything, i love them. im sure if the stantons are still going in 30 years, they'll become the industry standard. im just one of those consumers that buys tried & trusted equipment over the newest and shiniest.

if u wanna get techs .. get the MK5.. if u have more money and u wanna get techs .. get the M5gs..

i have really tried a stanton deck before .. except in the VW shops .. they seem ok with me .. but if i had to choose betwen techs or stantons.. id go with techs .. coz thats what i have been using .. its best to go with what u are used to .. or what u are familiar with ..

I've tried every stanton turntable on the current 2006 line. I've done 20 minute sets on just about each one. The ST-150's are fine, but they just wont stand up to technics.

Say you spill a soda in your pitch fader? Happened to mine, STILL worked, but it was a little sticky.

With a ST-150, you'd probably have to packege it up, send it back to Stanton, and probably pay a good chunk of money because it's not covered under warranty, and then wait for it to be sent back.

With Techs, you simply go to like 1200s.com buy a new pitch fader already on the PCB (without the click) and plug it right in, in a few days.

You just can't stand up to Technics availabilty in parts, and their dourability.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy A turntable is a turntable... they both work so who cares?

Anyone who is really serious about their hobby will buy only the best.. How can you expect to perform to the best possible standard if your equipment is letting you down!

cough.... says he who owns a stanton mixer.... yeh well im not rich enough to buy a xone yet

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Originally posted by trancecadet Anyone who is really serious about their hobby will buy only the best.. How can you expect to perform to the best possible standard if your equipment is letting you down!

Well... People say the stanton and techs are equally reliable and they pretty much seem like they are. The stanton has a few extra fetures but who cares?
They both hold there pitch, they both are solid enough not to get extreem amounts of feedback and they both stand the test of time and possibly club life.

with whatever turntable you get, you will be happy and both the technics and stantons have 8% pitch adjustment so if you get one or the other, you'll still be able to mix fine. I own lots of stanton stuff (mixer, turntables, and cd player) and never had an issue with reliability. On a final note, most club owners I know are willing to let dj's bring their own equipment so even if you get the stantons its not like you can't use them at a club and therefore you shouldn't sway your decision because of which turntable you will see at the club.


BTW the stanton does not include a ground wire which is nice because its one less wire to hookup/destroy.

Wow, you guys rock. Lots of great info here, I really appreciate it.

Unfortunately, I'm still somewhat indecisive. I like the fact that the Stanton TT that I own right now is very easy to hook up to my PC and listen to LP's, without an Amp or preamp for phono amplification. But the Tech's durability and just overall sexiness is top notch. I probably won't have my mind set until I'm at the checkout with my money in hand...

Once again guys, I really appreciate the feedback. Keep it comin'

i had the money to buy either one i wanted and i went witht he st-150s over the M5G's. I felt like i was paying for just the name on the techs and nothing else really. I'm not someone who comprimises on equipment. xone:92r, HD25's, and going to be picking up some new cdj's soon either pioneer or denon, so with that information in mind i would strongly suggest the stantons but only really the 150's as someone said earlier they stand apart from the rest of the line.

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Originally posted by Psiweaver i had the money to buy either one i wanted and i went witht he st-150s over the M5G's. I felt like i was paying for just the name on the techs and nothing else really. I'm not someone who comprimises on equipment. xone:92r, HD25's, and going to be picking up some new cdj's soon either pioneer or denon, so with that information in mind i would strongly suggest the stantons but only really the 150's as someone said earlier they stand apart from the rest of the line.

i am sorry but i just don't see how u can just pay for the name on the techs.. i find their TT much more solid and reliable than the stantons.. plus their durability could last for a life time .. then its under warranty .. im not so sure abt the stantons .. coz i haven used much on one myself.. but i would really go with the techs if u want good equipment to last u a dozen life time.

Honestly, either one will be great.

I have 1200M3Ds, so I don't really have a reason to upgrade. But if I did, it would be M5Gs. I just love the Techs. I've never used the Stantons, I only know what I've heard and read. The ST-150s seem to be a high-quality, extremely reliable turntable.

The extra torque on the Stantons does turn me off a little, though. When I used Vestax PDXs, I found it hard to mix being so used to Technics.

ok guys. so i went down to my local guitar shop to test-drive a Stanton C.120 (regarded a grade lower than ST-150) and a Tech 1210mk2 (teh classical thing).

this guy at the shop said that playing a Stanton with their 4.5 kg/cm torque is almost as playing a CDJ. i tried out both the Tech and the Stanton and man he was right! the Stanton is far more responsive, just like a CDJ. the platter starts and stops in almost no time. releasing the record on a Stanton is almost like pressing play on a CDJ. the platter on the Stanton is way harder to stop (more finger pressure needed), and thus it gives you better accuracy when slowing down or speeding up the record. the reverse is almost instant too. the pitch fader does not wobble and moves more smoothly than the Tech. plus the pitch slider on the Stanton does not have that stupid ditch. it has Line Out, SP/DIF.
I left the store and i was like: huh...how could anyone overpay 150 bucks for a primitive outdated Tech?

the only thing i want to say is the Stanton C.120 (not even the ST-150) ownZ !!! the Tech in every department. period.

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Originally posted by jun139 i am sorry but i just don't see how u can just pay for the name on the techs.. i find their TT much more solid and reliable than the stantons.. plus their durability could last for a life time .. then its under warranty .. im not so sure abt the stantons .. coz i haven used much on one myself.. but i would really go with the techs if u want good equipment to last u a dozen life time.

The stantons weight more than the techs and actually seem a bit more solid...but then again it's personal opinion on what feels solid or not. also another point that should be made is that you have to mainain your equipmentl; don't think a techs will be as good as it was straight from the box a couple years back...you need to maintain it

How much are the ST150s? The cheapest I found were 500$ American.


EDIT.

Just looked. If I bought it from Europe I could get them for as cheap as 430 Canadian each.


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Shit, used the wrong Currency I think. Does Britain still use the pound or Euro?

If it is still the GBP then it would be 630 Canadian.

Yep, from any reputable dealer here in the states. It looks like $500 is the going price.

Where did you find them for $430?

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