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Posted by dancevirtu on May-13-2006 06:37:

cds or vinyl??? opinions pls.

So i am lookin in to gettin a dj package (im a rookie). Im not lookin to make a career of this just a hobby. I cant decide what would be better turntables or cds. I obviously like the idea of having back up copies on cd instead of one vinyl that I can break, lose and have to replace at retail cost. Although I do like classic vinyl its the root and I like that. Is there a difference in sound quality, scratching..ect. Like I said its a hobby I have no experience and I dont have tons of cash to spend on vinyl (unless its worth it). So I would appreciate your advice for I have no idea what im doing.
thanx
dancevirt

Posted by T-Soma on May-13-2006 06:46:

There is a 52 page long sticky at the top of the dj booth called vinyl vs cds and if you do a search you will find many others...

Posted by Aquarian on May-13-2006 06:57:

Don't listen to anyone's personal preferance, they all have their reasons. You be your own judge.

Vinyl

PROS:

- "Authentic feel"
- Very slight difference in sound
- Scratching
- Turntables cheaper than CDJs

CONS:

- Expensive to buy
- Harder to find (in some cases)
- Wears out quickly, limited lifetime
- Cracks and pops (so much for the quality argument)
- Storage is very space-demanding (if you have a large collection)
- Alot of recent tracks aren't released on vinyl

CDs

PROS:

- Easier to find (sometimes)
- Sound quality never degrades no matter how much you play it
- Portable - You can store hundreds in a small wallet.
- Cheaper than vinyl
- Allows more sound manipulation
- Access to a wider catalogue of tracks
- Possibility to burn MP3s onto CDRs (which is a must if you produce)

CONS:

- CDJs are expensive
- Can't scratch (unless your CDJ has it as an integrated feature)
- Some older classics were never released on CD
- Insecure elitists will think you're the antichrist, but who cares about them

Posted by idoru on May-13-2006 06:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
Don't listen to anyone's personal preferance, they all have their reasons. You be your own judge.

Vinyl

PROS:

- "Authentic feel"
- Very slight difference in sound
- Scratching
- Turntables cheaper than CDJs

CONS:

- Expensive to buy
- Harder to find (in some cases)
- Wears out quickly, limited lifetime
- Cracks and pops (so much for the quality argument)
- Storage is very space-demanding (if you have a large collection)
- Alot of recent tracks aren't released on vinyl

CDs

PROS:

- Easier to find (sometimes)
- Sound quality never degrades no matter how much you play it
- Portable - You can store hundreds in a small wallet.
- Cheaper than vinyl
- Allows more sound manipulation
- Access to a wider catalogue of tracks
- Possibility to burn MP3s onto CDRs (which is a must if you produce)

CONS:

- CDJs are expensive
- Can't scratch (unless your CDJ has it as an integrated feature)
- Some older classics were never released on CD
- Insecure elitists will think you're the antichrist, but who cares about them

Posted by spdandpwr on May-13-2006 07:15:

i agree with everything above but i don't understand the sound manipulation thing....also you forgot to mention that you can edit tracks, burn it onto a cd, and then mix with it...it's great

Posted by Aquarian on May-13-2006 07:23:

errr, you kinda just answered your own question there

Posted by harriz on May-13-2006 11:16:

Re: cds or vinyl??? opinions pls.

quote:
Originally posted by dancevirtu
So i am lookin in to gettin a dj package (im a rookie). Im not lookin to make a career of this just a hobby. I cant decide what would be better turntables or cds. I obviously like the idea of having back up copies on cd instead of one vinyl that I can break, lose and have to replace at retail cost. Although I do like classic vinyl its the root and I like that. Is there a difference in sound quality, scratching..ect. Like I said its a hobby I have no experience and I dont have tons of cash to spend on vinyl (unless its worth it). So I would appreciate your advice for I have no idea what im doing.
thanx
dancevirt

Hello.

I would recomend you buy a pair of techs and rane serato and you will have the best of both worlds Since you are only looking for a hobby this is the ideal setup for you.
You will be able to play your mp3s and waves (If you are paying for them I suggest you buy waves) so you will have an instant record collection plus you will be able to start building a physical collection.
Let's face it nothing beats a trip to the record shop.

There are tunes that are vinyl only releases and there are tunes that are digital only.

You will have a huge library most vinyl jocks won't plus you will have skill most cd djs don't (If you can manually pitch bend you can mix on anything that has a pitch control.)
It's like a bedroom djs dream come true really.
You can now take your trilions of mp3s and grab them and cue them like records!
What more could you ask for?

Posted by DFOP04 on May-13-2006 12:50:

^^^^ +1000 on that, ive just bought serato and its the bees knees, im 100% happy with it, such a great product, ive been spinning for nearly 4 years now, and since having serato in the last month ive got almost as many wavs/mp3 files as i have vinyl (that ive been collecting for 4 years). tunes are so dam cheap, it gives you so much more variety, is a very very good product, would recommend to anyone. digital is the way forward, but by no means am i chucking in the vinyl, still love the vinyl feel,SSL is the best of both worlds!!

Posted by Allen Mueller on May-13-2006 13:53:

Another vote for Serato. You get the best of both worlds.

allen

Posted by DOOMBOT on May-13-2006 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
Vinyl
- Wears out quickly, limited lifetime

Last night I was playing records double your age. I doubt if cd's were around as long, you could say the same.

Posted by adi26 on May-13-2006 15:17:

Sweet, I was just about to make a thread on this...even I am thinking of mixing as a hobby.

What is this Ableton software all about? What I would really like to do is sit at home and mix songs and create my own mixx...

Would Ableton suffice??

Posted by T-Soma on May-13-2006 15:36:

Click here and download the demo. Mess around with it and see for yourself.

Posted by ASFSE on May-13-2006 16:13:

vinyl, cause then you can listen to all those classic james brown LP's your parents have stored away.

Posted by dancevirtu on May-13-2006 18:35:

wow okay so im looking at the rane serato scratch live stuff right now. If I am understanding this right you put these special rane vinyl records on your tables or your special rane cds in your cdjs and the computer will recognize the record or cd and allow you to assign a track from your computer to your tables!!!! Is that right? So once you put the 12" or cd on your tables thats it you are ready for anolog manipulation of the digital music archive you have on your computer without ever having to swap out cds or records all night?

Tell me if im getting this right because either they have invented a very powerful piece of equipment ...or i just invented it...lol.

If thats right that is exactly what I need!!!!!!! Havent looked at the price but I know its on my wish list.
holy sh!t

Posted by Tsukai on May-13-2006 21:37:

Re: Re: cds or vinyl??? opinions pls.

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Hello.

I would recomend you buy a pair of techs and rane serato and you will have the best of both worlds Since you are only looking for a hobby this is the ideal setup for you.

Heh, thats exactly what I did. Except I went with the FS 2.0 instead.

quote:
Let's face it nothing beats a trip to the record shop.

There are tunes that are vinyl only releases and there are tunes that are digital only.

Thats true, never knew that before, was dissapointed when there are some songs I couldn't buy as mp3 and vice versa for records, then again it shouldn't matter I can play them all. Another bonus is that, I don't need too much space for this setup vs 2TT, 2CDJ and Mixer.

quote:
You will have a huge library most vinyl jocks won't plus you will have skill most cd djs don't (If you can manually pitch bend you can mix on anything that has a pitch control.)
It's like a bedroom djs dream come true really.
You can now take your trilions of mp3s and grab them and cue them like records!
What more could you ask for?

Absolutly nothing. Oh wait, maybe some more cash for mp3/records.

Posted by Tsukai on May-13-2006 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by dancevirtu
wow okay so im looking at the rane serato scratch live stuff right now. If I am understanding this right you put these special rane vinyl records on your tables or your special rane cds in your cdjs and the computer will recognize the record or cd and allow you to assign a track from your computer to your tables!!!! Is that right? So once you put the 12" or cd on your tables thats it you are ready for anolog manipulation of the digital music archive you have on your computer without ever having to swap out cds or records all night?

Tell me if im getting this right because either they have invented a very powerful piece of equipment ...or i just invented it...lol.

If thats right that is exactly what I need!!!!!!! Havent looked at the price but I know its on my wish list.
holy sh!t

You betcha!

Posted by dancevirtu on May-13-2006 23:42:

SWEET

Posted by spdandpwr on May-14-2006 02:37:

I don't understand those people that sell their turntables to by cdjs...itll save them money buying serato scratch or FS and they'll have an even bigger library.

Posted by adi26 on May-14-2006 14:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Click here and download the demo. Mess around with it and see for yourself.

Cool... I just downloaded and played with it a bit. The software is intimidating - but I am a complete beginner.

Wondering whether I should go ahead learning this or not?? Learning this would take a couple of months fo su looking at it now...