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Knowing your tunes...

Here is a question for all you DJs out there...

How long does it take you to learn your tracks?

I mean to know them enough to be able to say, yeah...that would go well good with this, etc.

Personally, it does vary a lot. Some tracks just seem to stick in your mind, where as others, seem to take ages to get to know them inside out.

Anyone else get the same?

Also do you find it easier to remember your vinyl records as appose to your CDr's and MP3's?

I do...

Only buy songs you realy like.
Not only to you obviously end up with a collection your happeir with but the more you like a song the better the chance you will remember it well.
Also instead of one big purchase of vinyl make a few smaller ones, this way you will remember them better when you listen to a shipment.

I am CDJ only nowadays. And I know what your saying, I will often buy like 30 mp3s a time, listen to them like one evening burn to cd, then when they in my cd wallet forget how they sound totally.

Damn impulse buying. And don't you hate tunes that sound good in clips, but turd in full...

I've noticed that it only really takes me 1 or 2 plays for me to remember/know the track. Of course when it comes to trance the structures tend to be a bit obvious...

Yeah its striaght forward for most trance but like other genres and stuff.

you pretty mhc get to 1.50 mins remianing on track A press play on track B and theres you go.

Structuring in trance may be 'obvious' but getting creative is what makes a better DJ. Also taking chances and overlaying tracks longer and longer and EQing creatively makes it more interesting.

Also the whole mixing in key deal takes knowing your tunes.

I think it's all practice really.

Dude I know, I was simply asking how long is it befor you can say "hey I can mix that tune with pretty muhc anything sucessfully" for each new track you get?

It takes me about 2-3 listens before I get to that state. Going through hundreds of tracks a week though you get to know patterns and whatnot of the different songs so for ones I end up keeping, I really listen to a few times.

Then, once I've listened to them a couple of times, I try them out in a set and from then on, it's easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy.

Some people have different ways or remembering tracks though, but for me it seems to come pretty quick. God help me if I can remember a friggin' track title though for an ID, but that's another story.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Dude I know, I was simply asking how long is it befor you can say "hey I can mix that tune with pretty muhc anything sucessfully" for each new track you get?

Doesn't work like that.. the whole point about knowing your tunes is know what they mix well with.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I am CDJ only nowadays. And I know what your saying, I will often buy like 30 mp3s a time, listen to them like one evening burn to cd, then when they in my cd wallet forget how they sound totally. Damn impulse buying. And don't you hate tunes that sound good in clips, but turd in full...

I reckon one of the good things about using vinyl is that it is reassuringly expensive. Because you're paying anywhere from �1.50 to �3.00 per track, you can only afford a few records every week. This means you focus on getting only the tracks you really want, and there's not much impulse buying involved. It just helps you learn the tracks for DJing better, I find.

I buy stuff i realy want and know i will always love on vinyl. Also some stuff that i cant find on beatport or audiojelly. I buy heaps of stuff from audiojelly and beatport that i like but i mean not every song you buy is going to be a song that you hear and think "OMGZ DIS TUNE IS BANGINZ"
I find that there is alot of stuff on beatport and audiojelly that i cant find on vinylwarning. Yet the same applies the other way around.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Doesn't work like that.. the whole point about knowing your tunes is know what they mix well with.

What the hell are you on about?

That is exactly what I said, how long does it take befor your confident enough with a new tune to know how and what to mix it with.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy I buy stuff i realy want and know i will always love on vinyl. Also some stuff that i cant find on beatport or audiojelly. I buy heaps of stuff from audiojelly and beatport that i like but i mean not every song you buy is going to be a song that you hear and think "OMGZ DIS TUNE IS BANGINZ" I find that there is alot of stuff on beatport and audiojelly that i cant find on vinylwarning. Yet the same applies the other way around.

Yeah amn too right, half the tunes I buy I've never mixed. Simply cause they aint actually that good after a few listens.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 What the hell are you on about? That is exactly what I said, how long does it take befor your confident enough with a new tune to know how and what to mix it with.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Dude I know, I was simply asking how long is it befor you can say "hey I can mix that tune with pretty muhc anything sucessfully" for each new track you get?

Please, re-read what you write before asking me what the hell I'm on about...

Right I have.

Whats your point?

The initial post I said...

" "Hey I can mix that tune with pretty much anything sucessfully" for each new track you get? "

Then you said thats not the point... The point is know what tunes to mix it with.

Which, is what I was asking...

" That is exactly what I said, how long does it take befor your confident enough with a new tune to know how and what to mix it with. "

I suppose the "mix with anything sucessfully" may have been implying literally anything, but obviously standard practices still apply.

Where has the confusion come about from?

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Please, re-read what you write before asking me what the hell I'm on about...

does it really call for u to be THAT picky?

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Originally posted by nutsan [IMG]http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/stfu_refreshing_can.jpeg/IMG] does it really call for u to be THAT picky?

Yeah.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I am CDJ only nowadays. And I know what your saying, I will often buy like 30 mp3s a time, listen to them like one evening burn to cd, then when they in my cd wallet forget how they sound totally. Damn impulse buying. And don't you hate tunes that sound good in clips, but turd in full...

I am CDR only aswell.. and I tend to buy tracks in groups of 10-15... download.. listen to them in alphabetical order twice.. switch and listen to something else, live set, past purchases etc, then go back and lisetn to everything I bought in random order and try to recall what the track name was.. I find that I can connect the certain sounds with names and that is exactly what I would do when I am in the middle of mixing.

Like mentioned I did find it easy to recall tracks when I was spinning Vinyl, but new format, new challenge.

I guess this is another of the advantages of vinyl, you cant afford to buy as many so you're more likely to know the tracks better rather than have a lot you don't really know (in theory)

I just listen to songs over and over and over again, and if i still like it enough to listen to it, then i'll probably buy it. At that point i can think of what it sounds like and decide if it works with the current track or not.

After a while it just becomes instinct, while you're spinnin a tune you can almost hear the next tune coming in even if you havent even picked a song :P

There are a few tracks i got that i don't know too well, i try to play those whenever i can to learn them. If you're doing a set and you just spontaneously think of what song to play (rather than having a guide like what key you want/need), the song you pick is likely to be a song that you've listened to over and over again.

ah....
...yeah

it takes me a lil bit longer to know my tracks when it comes to downloads. But the reason for that is that I have a gig every week and I like to bring new tracks since a lot of ppl can tell if I played a tune last week. So yea, Im constantly buying new tracks and after a while, you accumulate A LOT of tracks.

Wonder how big names djs cope getting sent millions of tunes each year...

im sure they got their trusty mp3 player with them at all times. And i guess you get really good at new tunes on the fly.

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