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Posted by nhibberd on May-13-2006 18:42:

Producer goes Dj

Hey all,

I have this big problem with being just a producer no Dj... I'm gonna invest in a synth first then some quality decks. I was wondering if any of you have ever made the transision from producer to Dj ad if it is any different from just starting Dj'ing from a clean slate?

Anyways, I have about 6 months untill I can buy the decks maybe more. Is there any way to get some practice with dodgy software or whatever? Any magix stuff will do realy, i just wanna get a taste.

CD


Posted by wizniz on May-14-2006 04:05:

Rasta

yo thats what i did.

except i still produce...

i have 9 years of orchestra bass under my belt and about 2 years of production and i noticed that it really helps because you understand music... the beat structures, the equalizations, volume levels, progressions, keys, everything... it makes it feel more natural to start and the learning starts quicker.

good luck man!


Posted by miamitranceman on May-14-2006 06:07:

Re: Producer goes Dj

quote:
Originally posted by nhibberd
Hey all,

I have this big problem with being just a producer no Dj... I'm gonna invest in a synth first then some quality decks. I was wondering if any of you have ever made the transision from producer to Dj ad if it is any different from just starting Dj'ing from a clean slate?

Anyways, I have about 6 months untill I can buy the decks maybe more. Is there any way to get some practice with dodgy software or whatever? Any magix stuff will do realy, i just wanna get a taste.

CD



Hey man, I posted some computer mixing software a few days ago in another thread. I'd start off with something like Atomix's Virtual DJ for mixing and effects with the three EQ's. There's also Traktor, and Mixmeister (which I find a little too hands off).

Just do a google search for any of those and you shouldd find d/l sites.


Posted by richg101 on May-14-2006 08:23:

i gotto say i think making a transition from a dj to a producer would be better. because you learn what makes people dance. dj's generally buy more music so are subjected to more of what is working the dancefloors. and then are more likely to know what is working at the time. i bet your production level goes up and your trax become more danceable once you dj your music.

i would personally not buy mixing equipment. but speand it on synths and other bits for producing. a killer record kinda will mean you start being booked to play out. a dj that mixes seamlessly is just the norm now.


Posted by wizniz on May-14-2006 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
i gotto say i think making a transition from a dj to a producer would be better. because you learn what makes people dance. dj's generally buy more music so are subjected to more of what is working the dancefloors. and then are more likely to know what is working at the time. i bet your production level goes up and your trax become more danceable once you dj your music.

i would personally not buy mixing equipment. but speand it on synths and other bits for producing. a killer record kinda will mean you start being booked to play out. a dj that mixes seamlessly is just the norm now.


your first point is sooooo true.

i wrote music for a while and it was "ok... alright... lots of potential... blah blah blah" but then i got into djing and a month later i write a tune that i think is standard and people are asking if they can collab with me on it... wtf? lol it gets into your head and works with you for the better.


Posted by Haunted on May-14-2006 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
yo thats what i did.

except i still produce...

i have 9 years of orchestra bass under my belt and about 2 years of production and i noticed that it really helps because you understand music... the beat structures, the equalizations, volume levels, progressions, keys, everything... it makes it feel more natural to start and the learning starts quicker.

good luck man!



you're 16 yet have 9 years of orchestra bass under your belt? interesting.


Posted by sterilis on May-15-2006 00:12:

agree with rich on this one!


Posted by sr126 on May-15-2006 06:58:

i went this route, i built up a small studio years before i bought my first pair of belt drives, and mixer.

writing music (playing instruments before that) gave me a whole different prespective on how to play music as a dj. i'm not gonna lie, after really getting into dj'ing... it enhanced my songwriting, too. started to do things that i wasn't thinking off before, or wasn't considering doing.

more than anyting, i give my backgound as a musician all the credit for what i can do now, not the direction i took. i can't tell you how much it means to me to have the knowledge/tools to be able to recreate the things that exist in my imagination as something physical that i can hear coming out of my stereo... sounding the way i heard it in my head. whether is dj'ing, playing an instrument, or songwriting. it's just nuts, and it keeps me hooked on music like a crack addict.

i don't think it matters too much how you start or where you go. as long as you start your journey prepared. as long as you have a good background in music, you can start one way, and use the experience to enhance the second. not only that, you will grow and mature and mature much faster than someone w/out a musica background.


Posted by Derivative on May-15-2006 20:32:

I had musical performance and composition experience under my belt before learning to spin. Had been producing a year too. You could say I had the pre reqs down. Unfortunately, I have a retarded cuing action so I suck at spinning anyway.

BAH.

Picture a dude on the decks trying to save a vinyl car crash from happening, spasticated right arm pushing the record forward then dragging back. oop- nearly. damn had it in time for a second. woop. nearly. oh fu-

Wipe the fader across and pretend like nothing out of the ordinary happened.

Mates in the background staring in silence, shaking their heads.

Yea thats me...


Posted by Danila on May-15-2006 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
you're 16 yet have 9 years of orchestra bass under your belt? interesting.


whats wrong with that?

I started to go to music school to play cello and piano since I was 6 or 7 soo.


Posted by nhibberd on May-15-2006 22:36:

Well, i'v now got a copy of Traktor and i'v put stickers all over my MIDI keyboard controller and i'm completely hooked. I can't help myself staring at the bpm-counter and sync meter though. It's SO much easyer than vinyl, so i was mixing seamlessly after about 3 half hour sets, well as far as sync goes.

But after 3 days of mixing i.s.o. producing � feel i'm kind of building up ideas for my next track, and i'm delaying my next prod session just to build up more. Also some time this/next month ill have a new synth so ill be all over the place!

CD


Posted by spolitta on May-16-2006 02:32:

I think most if not all of skilled producers could become a DJ in matter of no time.



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