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Ecstasy brings peace (to a cancer victim)

Found this while browsing digg tonight...

Sorry if someone has posted it already

http://www.boston.com/yourlife/heal...5/a_good_death/


http://www.digg.com/science/Ecstasy_allows_cancer_victim_to_spend_final_days_at_peace


Reversed

Edit: added digg link

thats a cool article.

is there any concrete evidence that ecstasy does damage to your heart, brain or other parts of your body?

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Originally posted by King Luis thats a cool article. is there any concrete evidence that ecstasy does damage to your heart, brain or other parts of your body?

yes and no. there was that article posted recently about that guy that consumed like 25000 pills or something, had major brain damage. The thing was, he consumed a lot more drugs then ecstacy.

theres a video explaining ecstacy(MDMA) and its long-term affects, a recent german study said that the only long term affects of mdma abuse is 5% decrease of serotonin in the brain, which you can get back by taking a long break.

i dont remember who the video is by.... its on the tip of my tongue, he died recently and worked for ABC?

and umm... 25,000 is umm... A LOT.

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Originally posted by Billche yes and no. there was that article posted recently about that guy that consumed like 25000 pills or something, had major brain damage. The thing was, he consumed a lot more drugs then ecstacy.

Not to mention it also depends on your own personal bodies abilities to be resiliant.. meaning if you already have weakened organs drugs or a not too great immune system hard drugs like E would definately take a toll...

Thats a cool article though... i think its really great that the woman was able to over come her fears of death and get past the pain cause by her cancer...

That part about her talking walks and singing with her family made me a little misty..
that really beautiful she was able to have such a wonderful expirience while going through something so hard

Nikki

videos called 'ecstacy rising'

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Originally posted by King Luis thats a cool article. is there any concrete evidence that ecstasy does damage to your heart, brain or other parts of your body?

studies in smaller animals (rats, and monkeys) have shown damage to both heart beat regularity and brain function. those studies have yet to be duplicated in humans for obvious reasons. many of the other chemicals used in Ecstasy can lead to heart complications in humans especially when prior problems may have already been on the surface.

one mistake I've caught right off the bat in that article though is that MDMA is not supposed to be classified as a hallucinogen.

should of included the digg link for the TRANCE diggers

lol well before i started doing e i didn't have an irregular heart beat and after a year and a half of doing it i developed one. Not saying it's connected.

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Originally posted by Billche consumed like 25000 pills or something, had major brain damage. The thing was, he consumed a lot more drugs then ecstacy.

40,000 pills and yeah an ass load of other drugs.But meh, these drug articles are stupid imo.

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Originally posted by l]evil theres a video explaining ecstacy(MDMA) and its long-term affects, a recent german study said that the only long term affects of mdma abuse is 5% decrease of serotonin in the brain, which you can get back by taking a long break. i dont remember who the video is by.... its on the tip of my tongue, he died recently and worked for ABC?

ecstasy rising by peter jennings
very very good video

mdma isn't the problem, it's all the other crap that's in today's pills that has serious side effects.

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Originally posted by Dufouria lol well before i started doing e i didn't have an irregular heart beat and after a year and a half of doing it i developed one. Not saying it's connected.

+1 have the same problem

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Originally posted by chinamon ecstasy rising by peter jennings very very good video

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Ecstasy-Rising?v=aAEauEQEwzQ

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Originally posted by Surreal JRS Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/w/Ecstasy-Rising?v=aAEauEQEwzQ

Thanks for the link. I watched the whole thing and it stated some very good points about MDMA.

I believe that if MDMA was legal and prescribed it would be much safer and healthier than now that it's illegal.

Lots of people still take them while not knowing what it's really inside the pill, And the stupid governments are ignoring the facts and keeping it illegal.

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Originally posted by Surreal JRS Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/w/Ecstasy-Rising?v=aAEauEQEwzQ

I have been looking for this video for a while. Thanks.


Good article but it is so sad. I feel so bad for her parents.

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Originally posted by loca +1 have the same problem

yep a lotta people have reported this... and many who take SSRIs such as prozac/paxil/zoloft/celexa/effexor have reported it as well - which means there's a good chance it has something to do with the serotonin system

anyone curious about effects of this stuff should really read the dancesafe forums, a lot of real stories by partiers, gives a lot of perspective and some analysis into what is likely and likely not to happen.

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Originally posted by simms327 how do you tell if you have an irregular heartbeat??

a ... how do you say ... DOCTOR tells you.

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Originally posted by l]evil videos called 'ecstacy rising'

saw that video was pretty interesting

Thanks for the link! it was neat to see the diversity of people who have used ecstasy. I mean, people always link "e" to ravers and dirt balls, but one of the first main dealers was a priest! I really enjoyed that, one of the best reports I've seen in a while.

There was another report, a long time ago, I think maybe CBS (60 minutes) did it. They were also stating some of the same false information about E (causing crazy amounts brain damage, parkinsons disease) They even showed a rave that was put on somewhere in the states where they some how "tested" your e on some meter thing, and depending on the MDMA ratio they would let you bring it in; but if it had other "bad things" in it, they would take it and throw it out, and provide the person with "real MDMA". I was shocked that they were even showing such a thing. I'd be really interested in watching that reprot again. I even think that they had the same chemist on, b/c I remember them walking through the woods in California.

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Originally posted by simms327 hey, i was just curious if it was somthing you could tell yourself... it seems to be fairly common!

And I was jsut being a sarcastic asshole.

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Originally posted by simms327 how do you tell if you have an irregular heartbeat??

this often comes along with the added effect of palpitations, in which you will be aware of and be able to feel your heart beating by just placing your hand on your chest, or sometimes it's so pronounced you will feel it without doing anything, right down to your feet.

but you still need to get an ECG done, it will graph the tiny details ... things like skipped heartbeats and other kinds of arrythmias will show up.

Very interesting article. Not to condone the use of drugs, but it is always good to get differing prespectives, not just a blatant refusal of drugs altogether. So many have such a skewed and biased view. Guess we can't really blame them, with the total lack of articles like these ever being presented.

This is one field being investigated for the application of ecstasy therapy, but there are also studies to see if it can help PTSD victims. Im glad atleast some people are open to applying mdma to these problems but i think it can help all kinds of people and would be useful in almost any type of psychotherapy.

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