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worst experience ever

my friend just had a seizure sitting right next to me. he dropped on ground and started shaking for like 3 mins. first i thought he was bluffin but he would not answer me but then i called 911 after i reallized what was going on.

worst part is i was all alone. i didnt know what to do, i've never seen or heard anyone having seizures. then they told me you have to get everything out of his way that can hurt him and put his head on a pillow.

experience like this anyone?

What dumbasses those medic people were...

Youre also supposed to put something in his mouth so that he doesnt bite his tongue off and/or swallow it.

and hold his neck so it doesn't break while he's shaking. i've helped a man in china town when this was happening a few weeks ago.

shit that's crazy yo. one of the worst parts is that you weren't sure if it was a joke. how's he now?

he wasnt biting his tongue or anything he was breathing heavily though and drooling

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Originally posted by take5 he wasnt biting his tongue or anything he was breathing heavily though and drooling

Well a seizure, depending on the strength, can also involve extreme uncontroled muscle spasms.

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Originally posted by nfekted shit that's crazy yo. one of the worst parts is that you weren't sure if it was a joke. how's he now?

he came back to coscience when ambulance got here, he was talking a little bit but still he couldnt move and he was cold

You should have stole his wallet & ran.

































i keed, sorry to hear that.

Guidelines for helping someone having a seizure:

1. Help the person lie down as soon as possible.

2. Look for a medical alert bracelet, pendant, or wallet card.

3. If a medical alert ID or other documentation indicating that the person has epilepsy cannot be located, call an ambulance.

4. If the person is pregnant or diabetic, call an ambulance.

5. Turn the person onto one side and put a soft object (e.g., pillow, sweater, jacket) under their head. Lying on the side allows secretions to drain from the mouth; prevents the inhalation of secretions; and allows the tongue to fall forward, keeping the airway open. Do not try to hold the tongue.

6. Do not put anything into the person's mouth. During the initial phase of a generalized tonic-clonic seizure, the jaw muscles tighten and it is impossible to open the mouth. Forcing an object into the mouth can damage the jaw or teeth.

7. Loosen ties and collars.

8. Remove harmful objects from the immediate area.

9. Do not restrain the person in any way. Restraining while the person is rigid or having convulsions may cause broken bones or bruising. Restraining someone having a complex partial seizure may provoke them into aggressive behavior.

10. Remain with the person until they are completely aware of who they are and their environment, stay calm, and offer reassurance to the person and to bystanders.

Someone having a complex partial seizure may wander or look confused but does not require first aid. It is helpful to calmly and gently guide the person away from harmful objects or situations. Do not attempt to restrain the person.

First aid is not necessary for someone having an absence seizure . They experience a temporary lapse in alertness and need monitoring to ensure their safety.







I don't think youre suppose to put anything in their mouth at all. I searched real quick for it and can't find reliable sources, but from what I remember (could be wrong), its a no no

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Originally posted by Boomer187 I don't think youre suppose to put anything in their mouth at all. I searched real quick for it and can't find reliable sources, but from what I remember (could be wrong), its a no no

Pay attention to the fact that the muscles will contact and lock the jaw, imagine how much pressure is exerted when that jaw contracts and closes the mouth. If it happens on the tongue, he will bite his tongue off.

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Originally posted by Vlad Pay attention to the fact that the muscles will contact and lock the jaw, imagine how much pressure is exerted when that jaw contracts and closes the mouth. If it happens on the tongue, he will bite his tongue off.

that thing I pasted mentions if the jaw is already tensed you could damage it by trying to place something in the mouth.


im not a doctor, I just stayed at a holiday inn.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 I don't think youre suppose to put anything in their mouth at all. I searched real quick for it and can't find reliable sources, but from what I remember (could be wrong), its a no no

I've been taught this in multiple first aid courses.

When the seizure first hits the jaw clamps shut, if the tongue is in the way its gonna go right then. However once you go "oh shit, he's having a seizure, wtf do i do wtf do i do, oh thats right, jaw, tongue, teeth, put somehting between them, fuck, what, remote control that'll do", the jaw is already well clamped and trying to put somehting between the teeth will only damage the teeth further. Once the jaw closes, she dun't open until the seizure passes, so there is no point trying to put somehting between the teeth.

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Originally posted by Vlad Pay attention to the fact that the muscles will contact and lock the jaw, imagine how much pressure is exerted when that jaw contracts and closes the mouth. If it happens on the tongue, he will bite his tongue off.

smarti pants

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I've been taught this in multiple first aid courses. When the seizure first hits the jaw clamps shut, if the tongue is in the way its gonna go right then. However once you go "oh shit, he's having a seizure, wtf do i do wtf do i do, oh thats right, jaw, tongue, teeth, put somehting between them, fuck, what, remote control that'll do", the jaw is already well clamped and trying to put somehting between the teeth will only damage the teeth further. Once the jaw closes, she dun't open until the seizure passes, so there is no point trying to put somehting between the teeth.

Its one of those things that you can only do if you know the situation, otherwise youre panicing and its too late.

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Originally posted by Vlad Its one of those things that you can only do if you know the situation, otherwise youre panicing and its too late.

yes, but the point being once the teeth shut, trying to get somehting in there will do more damage than good. And considering the jaw clamping shut is an early event (like one of the first things that happens), theres not too much you can do about it.

Unless of course you have the reflexes of a ninja. Think about it, its gonna take a few seconds for you to react, grab something and get to your mate, and thats if you have a clear mind and know exactly what to do and exactly what to grab. By this time its probably already too late.

for sure put something in there if they haven't closed, but don't immediately grab something and then try to force it between clenched jaws.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter for sure put something in there if they haven't closed, but don't immediately grab something and then try to force it between clenched jaws.

Thats what Im saying.

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Originally posted by Vlad Thats what Im saying.

oh. i never realised you said that if the jaws had alredy closed they won't reopen so it ceases to be of concern.
It appeared to me you were under the impression they would spasmodically open and shut and hence bite the tongue off.

obviously not.
move along, nothing to see here...................

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter oh. i never realised you said that if the jaws had alredy closed they won't reopen so it ceases to be of concern. It appeared to me you were under the impression they would spasmodically open and shut and hence bite the tongue off. obviously not. move along, nothing to see here...................

Nope that tongue will get bitten off right away if it obstructs the mouth as it closes.

i just cant get that picture out of my head when he was shaking. god i which i had some weed

Just in case your friend has another seizure DO NOT try to put something in his mouth. I am also certified in First Aid and even if you dont believe me here are some sources with very good information on seizures:

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From Wiki The person should never be restrained, nor should there be any attempt to put something in the mouth.

Wiki Article

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From Kaiser Permanente Do not force anything, including your fingers, into the person's mouth. Putting something in the person's mouth may cause injuries to him or her, such as chipped teeth or a fractured jaw. You could also get bitten.

Kaiser

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From Epilepsy Foundation Turn him or her gently onto one side. This will help keep the airway clear. Do not try to force the mouth open with any hard implement or with fingers. It is not true that a person having a seizure can swallow his tongue. Efforts to hold the tongue down can injure teeth or jaw.

Epilepsy Foundation

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From a service of the U.S. National Library of MEdicine DO NOT place anything between the person's teeth during a seizure (including your fingers).

MedlinePlus

If you are afraid it might happen again I would recommend reading the first two articles at least.

Common word...

force, force, force, force, force... if you can get it in there without force, than you should.

Learn to read:

"nor should there be any attempt to put something in the mouth"

"DO NOT place anything between the person's teeth"

Good for them... but if someone does have a seizure around me, that would be one of my first impulses if I get a chance to do it.

one of my classmates had a seizure in my english class in college, that was weird as ive never witnessed a seizure

he was like totally fine one minute then he was like jabbering and started shaking and shit, this dude next to him was startled and moved everything away from the guy, he was like proper freaking out, drooling and being like he was just electrocuted or something

trippy shiet

DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN SOMEONE'S MOUTH WHILE THEY'RE HAVING A SEIZURE.



jesus, i'm so sick of people saying that. it is physically impossible to swallow your own tongue.



anyway, yea my aunt has grand mal seizures in her sleep (the worst kind) and i witnessed one when i was 6. i freaked out and started screaming and hid under the bed and my mom ran upstairs and got me. it was really bad.


you just need to make sure there's nothing around that can hurt them, so putting a pillow under their head is good, if you can. you just have to restrain them and wait for it to pass.

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