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reversing set

let's say you've played a set, proper set with good flow and gradual changes of energy levels and so on...
now, if what if you completly reverse it, i mean the first track would the the last one, the last would become the fist, etc...
is it possible that it could work?

it's just theoretical question, i know that programming a set from low energy level to high looks slightly differnt than starting with banging stuff and going to more chilled, but once again, do you think it could work good?

i hit upon that idea couple minutes ago and i'd like to know what do you think about it... btw i've never tried to do such thing (not yet, at least)

I can't see why not.

cant see why not!

anyway i think it would work like this:

if it were just a quick night party i would start down tempo and build things up as people need to soak it up and slowly get into the swing of things, really depends where you are, what kind of event, people, reason for being there etc.
most times i wouldn't start out banging if you were opening it just doesnt work most times id say.
then the early hours of the mourning you bring it back down to down tempo stuff id say. it makes it sort of a nice recovery session from the night. trust people get stuffed when they've been dancin, so most appriciate good listening music thats grooveable id say. but then again it depends, if your at a rave well then go for it and full throttle all the way lol.

so it goes, minimal - climax - minimal.

cheers.

mattz

i thought so as well... and how about more limited time, let's say 1 hour, imo it's possible but i think i could not work so good... but it's only assumption, gotta check it on my own

your question us a bit odd, mainly for the fact it should work in the sense of how the set flows, should really matter which way...might have the opposite effect i guess. depends on style.

as i said before, it's purely theoretical question

omg, play a set backwards and add in stuff about satan as vocal samples, that'll spook some people out. ftw!

this is interesting. i gotta try it out with this set that really goes from soft to banging that i've been meaning to record. good topic!

Interesting idea, but I'm not sure it would work for every set. In some cases, i'd hear all of the high energy stuff first (which has less of an impact if you haven't started with soft stuff), and then I'd lose interest. Doesn't hurt to try though, you never know.

I've done it... I usually start with electro house and end with trance or techno... but there's been times when the DJ before me is banging it hard that I have to reverse my set and it works just fine if you know how to do.

djing isn't about a formula, mathematical equasion or wind speed measurement

it's about being in the moment, feeling what your crowd is putting out and just going with the flow

sure, there's some guidance on your part (you being the dj and all)

in the end, you pick the music, they dance (it's kinda how it works)

if and how hard they dance... that's up to you

play what you feel they would like and go with it

if you want to go high to low or low to high, do it and don't hold back




wow... a little stoned... k, i lied... very stoned...

hopefully that kinda makes sense, had a little "zen" moment there...







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Originally posted by DjWoody I've done it... I usually start with electro house and end with trance or techno... but there's been times when the DJ before me is banging it hard that I have to reverse my set and it works just fine if you know how to do.

did you use exactly the same tunes as in other set, but in reversed order? cause playing tracks starting with other energy level than we usually do isn't something very hard, you just got to feel it and go with it, just like Tonny said (btw... nice input dude )

i'm getting a bit more sceptic about that idea... when i was playing yesterday night, i was thinking a bit about it meanwhile and i realized somehow that there some tracks (at least in my case) has very specific place in my sets, it can be caused by certain vocals (you know, idea of "story-telling" in sets) or very distinct mood, and they won't work so good as a warming up track, like they did at the very end of set...

if someone would play such thing (2 sets) i think that it works, post at least the tracklist (or recorded set if possible) here, so we could check it

I hate programing sets in advanced. To me it gets really boring. I generally show up to the club with an idea of what I want to play, but my sets usually take a full different direction. My set structure is usually electro house then build it into trance or techno. But it's not set on stone. If the DJ before me is playing trance, then obviously electro house is out of the question.

The last time I had to reverse my set was a few months ago. I was feeling some My, but the DJ before me was playing trance. I began my set with trance and slowly began slowing it down until eventually I ended up with No More Conversations.

Like the other guy said, it's what your feeling at that moment.

Not sure why you would want to do that?

As Tony stated, it's not really totally up to you as you should be able to see what people are responding to.

I have heard DJs do this and it usually leads to conversations amongst clubbers thinking that the guy before was much better and by the end of the set it was shit, people will also start to leave as they run out of energy. People don't really tend to go out to be chilled out by a DJ (depending on music style of course). Just like sex, you wouldn't climax first then move on to foreplay. You have to be in the moment and respond to 'Lady Dancefloor's' needs to make her climax.

Dropping it like this towards the end of a night is a great way to empty the dance floor. As the night goes on and people get tired, the drugs wear off etc, they will be easier to put off.
You would also seriously frustrate a lot of the pill monsters.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Not sure why you would want to do that? As Tony stated, it's not really totally up to you as you should be able to see what people are responding to. I have heard DJs do this and it usually leads to conversations amongst clubbers thinking that the guy before was much better and by the end of the set it was shit, people will also start to leave as they run out of energy. People don't really tend to go out to be chilled out by a DJ (depending on music style of course). Just like sex, you wouldn't climax first then move on to foreplay. You have to be in the moment and respond to 'Lady Dancefloor's' needs to make her climax. Dropping it like this towards the end of a night is a great way to empty the dance floor. As the night goes on and people get tired, the drugs wear off etc, they will be easier to put off. You would also seriously frustrate a lot of the pill monsters. Cheers Nem

mate, i'm afraid you've missed my point

i know about this "reading the crowd" thing and i'm aware of fact that you will never drop your most banging tunes at the begining of night in club... i want to put playing out away of situation we're talking about. just concider it on example like when you're playing at home, just to practice and for fun, you can do whatever you want... just to enjoy yourself...

and i'm just asking, do you think it's possible to reverse certain set, that you've played earlier, successfully?

without any purpose, just to check does the tracklist works in reversed way...

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Originally posted by Fearless One mate, i'm afraid you've missed my point i know about this "reading the crowd" thing and i'm aware of fact that you will never drop your most banging tunes at the begining of night in club... i want to put playing out away of situation we're talking about. just concider it on example like when you're playing at home, just to practice and for fun, you can do whatever you want... just to enjoy yourself... and i'm just asking, do you think it's possible to reverse certain set, that you've played earlier, successfully? without any purpose, just to check does the tracklist works in reversed way...

On the contrary, I didn't missunderstand you at all . The thread went off on a few tangents and people started talking about this scenario in the clubs. Wasn't really aimed at your original question.

Sure you can do it. Why not? Technically you can do what you want, but does it sound good... well that's subjective really.

Cheers
Nem

If you do it properly, your set will still be banging. There's many factors that contribute to this... I'll give you another example. Carl Cox at Coachella was hard the firs two thirds of his set, then he really slowed it down towards the end. But then again, Audio Bullies was after him, and they're slower than Carl. Despite all that, his set was still banging.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 On the contrary, I didn't missunderstand you at all . The thread went off on a few tangents and people started talking about this scenario in the clubs. Wasn't really aimed at your original question.

oh, i see... cheers

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