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Posted by dcougar99 on May-19-2006 16:26:

Our next director of the CIA???

i hope the hell not!

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Keith Olbermann posted this video clip of Gen. Hayden botching the fourth amendment.

VIDEO LINK

Landay: "...the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to violate an American's right against unreasonable searches and seizures..."

Gen. Hayden: "No, actually - the Fourth Amendment actually protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure."

Landay: "But the --"

Gen. Hayden: "That's what it says."

Landay: "The legal measure is probable cause, it says."

Gen. Hayden: "The Amendment says: unreasonable search and seizure."

Landay: "But does it not say 'probable cause'?"

Gen. Hayden [exasperated, scowling]: "No! The Amendment says unreasonable search and seizure."

Landay: "The legal standard is probable cause, General -- "

Gen. Hayden [indignant]: "Just to be very clear ... mmkay... and believe me, if there's any Amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the Fourth. Alright? And it is a reasonableness standard in the Fourth Amendment. The constitutional standard is 'reasonable'" ( h/t Dale)

which Keith says:

OLBERMANN: To quote the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States in its entirety, the one the general and the NSA folks are so familiar with and know is about reasonableness and not about probable cause, quote, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Well, maybe they have a different Constitution over there at the NSA.

WTF WTF WTF

Posted by stevieboy32808 on May-19-2006 17:43:

Bush is not very good at picking successors.

Posted by shaolin_Z on May-20-2006 04:11:

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Bush is not very good at picking successors.

Actually he's very good at it in terms of them carrying on his legacy of butchering the constitution and the bill of rights.

Posted by stevieboy32808 on May-21-2006 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z

Posted by dcougar99 on May-23-2006 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Actually he's very good at it in terms of them carrying on his legacy of butchering the constitution and the bill of rights.

well said