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Posted by Khayat on May-21-2006 10:22:

Korg trinity VS Roland Jp 8000

HEy guys as u know from reading my previous threads i have small experience with synthesizers.I just wanted to ask which one of them is better cauz im willing to buy one,if anyone suggests something better than it would be cool thnxx


Posted by Khayat on May-21-2006 10:31:

Also what about the GW-70 and the Juno 6


Posted by Jason_R on May-21-2006 12:00:

Well the trinty & JP8080 really serve completly diffrent needs.

The trinty will give you access to a lot of bread & butter genral sounds such as pianos flutes ect and I bealive the whole synth is sample based.

The JP8080 is a pure synth and with a bit of work will give you many sounds often used & over used in trance music.

The real awnser really depends on what you want from your music in terms of sound & style ect and also what you already have access to.


Posted by sterilis on May-21-2006 13:31:

think he said the jp8000

on that i have one and its great for saw leads or lush pads also great for any sounds.


Posted by Derivative on May-21-2006 16:59:

This is another thread comparing a workstation keyboard to an analogue modelled synthesizer...

They are not comparible. Trinity is a sample based workstation. A bit old but a bit classic and its all over the sound of early 90s pop music along with the Korg M1. The successor to the Trinity is the Korg Triton which you probably know about since it is used quite alot in pop music today.

The reason why the Triton gets slated is because its basically the same thing as the Trinity but with a few extra 'convenience' features like onboard sampling and the ability to save to disk. You pay a small fortune for a Triton but really, the design hasnt changed all that much in the past 10 years.

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The Roland JP-8000 is an analogue modelled synthesizer whose major selling point is *that* supersaw lead sound you can hear on too many commercial trance records (post 1997) to list here. As an analogue modelled synth I dont think it is especially versatile and its multi timbrality and polyphony sucks without the supersaw to simulate extra notes. It is pretty good for obviously synthetic, monophonic leads though although that is not what it is (in)famous for.

Second hand prices continue to remain stable because of the supersaw oscillator - there is still no analogue or analogue modelled synthesizer that has a feature or oscillator that sounds exactly like it (except for the Roland V-Synth 2 but thats a separate synth in its own right and it costs a bomb).

Sample based workstation keyboards use timbres that are often too complex to synthesize using Subtractive Analogue synthesis. Things like real acoustic instrument sounds from flutes, violins, real world ambience and voices. Anything you can sample basically. You can get an awesome 'choir' out of a Trinity whereas trying to synthesize it takes alot of effort and generally sounds pretty poor in comparison. You can layer these timbres and create new interesting ones if you so wish.

Analogue synths dont even attempt to replicate real world sounds and timbres. At one point they probably tried to but those days are numbered. You would use these synths for many of the 'stock' sounds you hear on dance records. Obviously electronic sounds. They cannot replicate real instrument timbres very well.

So really it depends on what you want to do and what palette of sounds you need.


Posted by Thois on May-21-2006 19:24:

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Originally posted by Derivative
Second hand prices continue to remain stable because of the supersaw oscillator - there is still no analogue or analogue modelled synthesizer that has a feature or oscillator that sounds exactly like it (except for the Roland V-Synth 2 but thats a separate synth in its own right and it costs a bomb).

Roland SH-201????


Posted by Khayat on May-22-2006 06:18:

Yeah the Sh-201 is also cool what about it can anyone advice it more thanthe other two the Jp 8000 and the trinity or would it be a better choice?? I know it depends on the sounds that i need,but there must be there some that are better than others


Posted by Diginerd on May-22-2006 22:20:

Trinity is a great synth, especially if it has either the Prophecy or the Z1 board in it. Both will add modelling synthesis to the Trinity.

There is something to be said for the JP-8000's interface, also some of the sounds it produces only it can.

If you want a more varied set of sounds, and a more flexible instrument then the Trinity will kick it (especially if it's a Trinity V3).

As said before skip the Tritons, over priced and under powered for what they are.



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