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Posted by riskytrader on May-25-2006 04:04:

Anyone know Autocad 3d here?! I need help :(

Hey fellow Totas,

I was wondering if any of you want to help out a poor soul with autocad 3d? Basically I'm taking a marketing class at york and want to design a 3-d model of our product. PM me if you are good at this and have some spare time for a fellow TOTA

P.S. If you help drinks are on me @ the next trance event


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-25-2006 04:07:

Model it in 3D (Draw the parts of the object, bind them together) and then have Autocad generate the isometric views.

That is how I did it when I was had a draftsman gig (doing engineering drawings).


Posted by riskytrader on May-25-2006 04:09:

Oh LOL I should have added that I have NEVER used the program. Point me in the direction of a bloomberg terminal and I know it inside out.

Is there something simpler like a dummies version of modelling? I basically need to make a shoe with an adjustable heel at different heights


Posted by VERTiG0 on May-25-2006 04:16:

Find yourself a copy of SolidWorks, it does 3D CAD about eighty bajillion times better than AutoCAD does.

AutoCAD rocks my socks for 2D drafting, but the new 3D feature set is absolute trash in my opinion.

We used to do what RJ did as well with 3D Studio Max, modelling it first in that and then projecting it into AutoCAD to make the working drawings.


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-25-2006 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by riskytrader
Oh LOL I should have added that I have NEVER used the program. Point me in the direction of a bloomberg terminal and I know it inside out.

Is there something simpler like a dummies version of modelling? I basically need to make a shoe with an adjustable heel at different heights


There are icons to create objects (cubes, spheres, curves, planes, etc)...

Use those to create the various parts of the shoe. If you want to remove a corner of the cube, create a smaller cube/sphere/plane (the size that you want removed) and then bind the smaller piece inside the larger one and then delete (cut out) the smaller piece from the larger one (thus creating the indentation).

Keep doing that (creating, binding, cutting) until you have the 3d shape that you want. If you're a real keener - define the materials for the 3D render.

Then generate your isometric (top, bottom, left/right views) and add dimensions to the iso and you're done.


Posted by Rocco on May-25-2006 04:22:

PTC has a software called ProEngineer Wildfire.
Link

It's not as powerful as solidworks but it's something easy to pick up. It took me about 30 hrs to master it well so it's not as time consuming and doesn't require as much practice as solidworks or Autocad 3D. Autocad took about 60hrs of practice and I still hate it.

edit: ProE has alotta mechanical engineering applications besides just design including 3D digital stress analysis testing, fluidmechanical modeling and presentation rendering with full animations. The idea is ur buidling the 3D model and ProE does the 2D with a bit of work so it applies to alotta fields, not only engineering. U can use all three standard projections in terms of 2D drawings.. either isometric projection (mech eng standard), or the other two standards (diametric and trimetric) for civils and archies.


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-25-2006 04:24:

If you don't require a 3D render, then just do the isometrics which is even more straight forward. Iso generated via 3D just saves time if you require both.

Same process for isometric.

Draw the box, cut out the parts you don't need, project the shape onto the other planes.


Posted by m2j on May-25-2006 05:49:

or u could try 3DS Max, its pretty simple to use. just have to go through a few tutorials (which don't take long at all) and you're set. easy to use, and will get the job done.


Posted by LiANG on May-25-2006 07:50:

what do u need to model? I can help you if it isn't too complex. I don't have much free time due to work.


Posted by adi26 on May-25-2006 08:05:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Find yourself a copy of SolidWorks, it does 3D CAD about eighty bajillion times better than AutoCAD does.

AutoCAD rocks my socks for 2D drafting, but the new 3D feature set is absolute trash in my opinion.

We used to do what RJ did as well with 3D Studio Max, modelling it first in that and then projecting it into AutoCAD to make the working drawings.


+1
Solidworks> Autocad


Posted by Izra on May-25-2006 11:43:

If you've never used CAD before, sketch up is the best program to start with. I've found it is the easiest program for beginnners in 3D modelling.


Posted by King Luis on May-25-2006 11:55:

i used autocad back in highschool and i was awesome at it.
but when it comes to 3d stuff, ummm...i need to learn it first.

what are you trying to make?


Posted by Euphorica on May-25-2006 15:48:

3d autocad is completely pointless and useless. Complete waste of time.

find a better 3d Cad program to do it on. Solid Edge, inventor, Catia etc...all of which I have

what are you trying to do?


Posted by rabbitjoker on May-25-2006 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
what are you trying to do?


READING COMPREHENSION!

From post #3: "I basically need to make a shoe with an adjustable heel at different heights".


Posted by Euphorica on May-25-2006 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
READING COMPREHENSION!

From post #3: "I basically need to make a shoe with an adjustable heel at different heights".



Posted by Mpl4ever on May-25-2006 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
3d autocad is completely pointless and useless. Complete waste of time.

find a better 3d Cad program to do it on. Solid Edge, inventor, Catia etc...all of which I have

what are you trying to do?


Well AutoCAD isn't the best software to do 3D but it's easy to get your hands on it.

Here is a pics of my Vestax Turntables and Mixer I've done in 4-5 hours. It's not really detailed but I didn't spend much time on it!

http://www.myspace.com/mpl4ever My Space
Go to My Pics


Posted by Euphorica on May-25-2006 17:27:

Looks good!
its just autocad 3d is so assbackwards, slow and overall a pain in the ass. Proper 3d cad programs are so much nicer to use.
You could probably do those turntables and mixer in like 1/2 hour to an hour in a good 3d program.


Posted by Mpl4ever on May-25-2006 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
Looks good!
its just autocad 3d is so assbackwards, slow and overall a pain in the ass. Proper 3d cad programs are so much nicer to use.
You could probably do those turntables and mixer in like 1/2 hour to an hour in a good 3d program.


True that! But I could not get SolidEdge. SolideEdge is really hard to get because of the required Key that needs to be present in the printer/server port.


Posted by riskytrader on May-25-2006 20:07:

So apparently solidworks is not made for the mac. LOL all I found was a petition. Can't I do anything like this in photoshop? Made even steal a shoe picture...make it cartoon-ish? Change the heel lengths? I dunno...hehe that's why I luv finance...can manipulate numbers easily in excel

I'm just super pissed cuz this one girl supposed had a friend that was gonna do this and literally told me yesterday that oh, sorry he can't. I hate when people promise things and then end up re-neg'ing completely! ARGHHHH...

Thanks for everyone's ideas so far.



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