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To face the DJ or not
I was lurking as usual and someone posted about how they disapprove of people not facing the DJ. I'm not one to say fuk that, but it got me thinking that one of the reasons i got into clubbing was that it felt to me like the anti-concert. I'm been to quite a few concerts from the large-meadow lands, camden blokbuster thing to smaller venues like electric factory, trocadero, TLA etc...but i was always turned off by the idolization and performer being higher and mightier than the fans. Not to mention not being able to dance, plastered next to some sweaty manimal. I am totally down with not facing the DJ. I particular loved it when i saw people sitting or walking down a hall and just started tearing shit up b/c the speakerz just exploded. Maybe i'm in the minority, but I for one wish that people would not stand in front of the booth and stare or cram so close as to only be able to headnod. Granted some clubs are just REDIC crowded and i MOS DEF approve of those who watch DJs to examine technique, but to say shit about not facing the DJ, well to each his own. Any opinions?
PAZ
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| Originally posted by Big blue I was lurking as usual and someone posted about how they disapprove of people not facing the DJ. I'm not one to say fuk that, but it got me thinking that one of the reasons i got into clubbing was that it felt to me like the anti-concert. I'm been to quite a few concerts from the large-meadow lands, camden blokbuster thing to smaller venues like electric factory, trocadero, TLA etc...but i was always turned off by the idolization and performer being higher and mightier than the fans. Not to mention not being able to dance, plastered next to some sweaty manimal. I am totally down with not facing the DJ. I particular loved it when i saw people sitting or walking down a hall and just started tearing shit up b/c the speakerz just exploded. Maybe i'm in the minority, but I for one wish that people would not stand in front of the booth and stare or cram so close as to only be able to headnod. Granted some clubs are just REDIC crowded and i MOS DEF approve of those who watch DJs to examine technique, but to say shit about not facing the DJ, well to each his own. Any opinions? PAZ |
) but i think facing the dj ie, the elevation of just dj to superstar dj has led to the demise of the dance music scene-- it took away all its focus from the crowd to the dj. there's no more originality in the way people dress, there's no vibe many times, the attitude sucks in most places and it has just become some sort of nihilistic mass listening to an alternative god. it can be seen as hypocritical that yes, a lot of us go see DJs that we like but this is only because we know they play music that we like.
I like to dance and walk around but I also like to look at the DJ to see his expressions as he plays the songs. Most times I like to see them smile when they are about to play a really great track. I often take pictures and I think its nice to catch those moments IMO.
raises hand *perfect DJ whore example right here*
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| Originally posted by Big blue I was lurking as usual and someone posted about how they disapprove of people not facing the DJ. I'm not one to say fuk that, but it got me thinking that one of the reasons i got into clubbing was that it felt to me like the anti-concert. I'm been to quite a few concerts from the large-meadow lands, camden blokbuster thing to smaller venues like electric factory, trocadero, TLA etc...but i was always turned off by the idolization and performer being higher and mightier than the fans. Not to mention not being able to dance, plastered next to some sweaty manimal. I am totally down with not facing the DJ. I particular loved it when i saw people sitting or walking down a hall and just started tearing shit up b/c the speakerz just exploded. Maybe i'm in the minority, but I for one wish that people would not stand in front of the booth and stare or cram so close as to only be able to headnod. Granted some clubs are just REDIC crowded and i MOS DEF approve of those who watch DJs to examine technique, but to say shit about not facing the DJ, well to each his own. Any opinions? PAZ |
If you suffer from having to worshiping a DJ as a god, you can always try running up a massive bar tab at the club. Sure it'll will cost you plenty, but the benefits outweigh the cost of your drinks.
Scenario #1. You'll get nice and wasted enough that you'll have thoughts like "Wait! My friends were around here a second ago! Where da fuck did they go?" and "Shit! I need to get to the bathroom NOW!" that will distract you from DJ worshipping.
Scenario #2. If you're not worrying about trivial thoughts, you'll do stupid shit like stumble into people, throw up on the dance floor, hump random people and so forth. However, you certainly won't stoop down to DJ Worshipping
Scenario #3. Maybe drinking heavily at the club will kick an even bigger habit: Worrying about whether or not you will worship Diggers when you go out. You'll get so wasted that you won't remember or really care about if you paid homage to Sander last night. You'll be a bit more worried about things like on how you got home last nght. Even weeks down the line you certainly won't worry about if you really did fixate your eyes and body position in the direction of Armin Van Buuren since you're more worried about how you maxed out your AMEX blue card because you ran up a $400 bar tab at Crobar.
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| Originally posted by LuNaSeA ROFFLE!!!! holy crap i'm crying here. !! *** annnnnnnnd i'm back. so, i would like to say that it's about the MUSIC, not the dj. i definitely had my share of time where i faced the dj (well, haha i was in love with pvd at the time ) but i think facing the dj ie, the elevation of just dj to superstar dj has led to the demise of the dance music scene-- it took away all its focus from the crowd to the dj. there's no more originality in the way people dress, there's no vibe many times, the attitude sucks in most places and it has just become some sort of nihilistic mass listening to an alternative god. it can be seen as hypocritical that yes, a lot of us go see DJs that we like but this is only because we know they play music that we like. |
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT You go out too much. That is your problem amongst many others. |
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy No, the problem is people who don't go out that often, therefore have no standards because they've got little to compare to. |
So think about when I see a dj like Armin or Digweed. WOW! 
Yeah it's pretty retarted when you have a whole club filled with crack heads and they are all staring at the DJ like he's God. Just do your thing and dance.....if anything you should be looking at the people around you with smiles.
What about those that have a history of going out, they've been to many many parties before and also choose not to go out. They've had sufficient to compare to and they've stayed in enough to not say "wow armin rocked it"
Granted I really don't think the crowd should all pray to the DJ, he's there to entertain, but the people around you are the ones who are sharing the times with you. Yea the DJ might be conducting the music, ultimately it's the music that reaches you and brought you all together, not the DJ.
Oh and a big ups to seth what's good kid!
How's the heat down in middle america? I might just have to come down there and find out what the big fuss is about. Say hello to the wifey =)
oh and to what i said up there ^^^ - you can put that "old school elitest mentality of clubbing for many years" comment away, if you feel that way - give yourself the same amount of experience and you'll understand what i mean
people cant face the DJ or they get criticized... people cant dance in circles or battle or theyre called a Hotti boy...
what are the permissable things to do in a club by NYTA standards may you all tell me?
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| Originally posted by DJ Eco people cant face the DJ or they get criticized... people cant dance in circles or battle or theyre called a Hotti boy... what are the permissable things to do in a club by NYTA standards may you all tell me? |
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| Originally posted by InterMilan31 ask bradley for comp enter club get drunk at club throw up pretend nothing happend and all is better take mass amounts of pics go home write a review thread and complain sleep then next day start drama |
I never said anything about facing the DJ. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. When I go out, I'm there to have fun, which includes talking to people I know, getting drinks, dancing, etc. It's not really the facing aspect, it's the worship part. I mean, most of the action, whether it be dancers, lighting, other visuals, etc are going on near the DJ on stage. Either way, I couldn't care less if people face the DJ or not.
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT Hehe, well we will just butt heads here. Put it this way though and seriously think about it... I live in Philly, so when I make an NYC trip, I make the best of it. So think about when I see a dj like Armin or Digweed. WOW! |
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy BTW, I doubt even if Dani took a year off from going out that she'd come back and be like "OMG, Tijs PWNED so hard last night. |
Interesting Thread. Big Blue, I believe you were referring to my post under the review thread for Armand van Helden @ Pacha 2 weekends ago. Generally speaking, I believe that you can do whatever you want at a club (I'm not one to be bothered by people who seem like they're having a good time), but the people that, as some of us put it, 'DJ Worship' tend to have a better idea of the music than those that don't. Most of those people grinding and standing in a position from which neither partner has a clear view of the DJ generally couldn't tell the difference between Armand van Helden and Armin van Buuren (I love saying that). They go to 'Crobar on a Friday night' rather than to 'Danny Howells @ Crobar'. This is a different clubbing mentality, and those of us that go based on who's headlining might have some trouble recognizing this.
Also, while I by no means encourage 'DJ Worship', there's something to be said for a situation in which your movements on the dancefloor are dictated by the music, something that is, in turn, controlled by the DJ. Someone said, "It's about the music and not the DJ". If that was indeed the case, then we could just put the latest radio mix or latest CD of our favorite DJ in to a CD player and blast it on the Crobar speakers.
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy I never said anything about facing the DJ. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. When I go out, I'm there to have fun, which includes talking to people I know, getting drinks, dancing, etc. It's not really the facing aspect, it's the worship part. I mean, most of the action, whether it be dancers, lighting, other visuals, etc are going on near the DJ on stage. Either way, I couldn't care less if people face the DJ or not. No, I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying that it's silly. I get how things are more special when you don't have them. It's like going for a long time without getting laid, though, which I'm sure you've had the displeasure of experiencing (I know I have before) The sex could be absolutely mediocre, but since it's been months, you'd think it was great because there's no perspective. On the contrary, when it's a daily thing, you can't be fooled. That's the exact same type of thing. I can't believe you'd try to tout lack of experience as a positive thing. Ignorance is bliss, but by being ignorant, you relinquish your rights to have your opinions matter as much as those who are more informed and have more experience. Say you were going base your movie choices on critical acclaim alone. Whose opinion has more basis, a professional who watches and compares movies for a living, or some guy who writes up some review on Yahoo Movies? BTW, I doubt even if Dani took a year off from going out that she'd come back and be like "OMG, Tijs PWNED so hard last night. |
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| BTW, I doubt even if Dani took a year off from going out that she'd come back and be like "OMG, Tijs PWNED so hard last night. |
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy BTW, I doubt even if Dani took a year off from going out that she'd come back and be like "OMG, Tijs PWNED so hard last night. |
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT Ask her about Armin at Spirit last June. Sorry babe! |
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| Originally posted by InterMilan31 ask bradley for comp enter club get drunk at club throw up pretend nothing happend and all is better take mass amounts of pics go home write a review thread and complain sleep then next day start drama |
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| Originally posted by Groundhog Boy BTW, I doubt even if Dani took a year off from going out that she'd come back and be like "OMG, Tijs PWNED so hard last night. |
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| Originally posted by kid nyce actually, dani told me secretly that she loves tiesto and is his number 1 fan. |
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT Ask her about Armin at Spirit last June. Sorry babe! |
"OH MY GOD! MINDCIRCUS!!!!!!!!!!"
Was a great night babe and I was glad you came and danced with me.
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| Originally posted by DOOMBOT "OH MY GOD! MINDCIRCUS!!!!!!!!!!" Was a great night babe and I was glad you came and danced with me. |
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| Originally posted by pyro264jb Yo seth ! How r things down in Central America? Still teaching? |
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| Oh and a big ups to seth what's good kid! How's the heat down in middle america? I might just have to come down there and find out what the big fuss is about. Say hello to the wifey =) |
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