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Posted by ZeJayMan on May-26-2006 22:50:

Serato Question (Cart's/Stylus)

I've posed this question to a few SSL users and I am yet to find an answer, so here it goes...

If using Serato Scratch Live, connected to two turntables, mixer and laptop, would it matter on the quality of Cart/Stylus you were using? Or would it be just enough for the cart to read the Coded vinyl's grooves?

Theres no point in me buying Ortofon Nightclub Pro's when I can buy Numark Groovetools....

Ortofons or Whitelabels are gonna look better on my Techs than Numark GT's, but hey... Money is money.


Posted by DjWoody on May-26-2006 23:08:

Serato recommends using the Shure M44-7's due to their high output. You can use any needles you want, but the Shure's are recommended and are way cheaper than the ortofons!



Posted by blacknoizybox on May-27-2006 07:41:

Re: Serato Question (Cart's/Stylus)

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
I've posed this question to a few SSL users and I am yet to find an answer, so here it goes...

If using Serato Scratch Live, connected to two turntables, mixer and laptop, would it matter on the quality of Cart/Stylus you were using? Or would it be just enough for the cart to read the Coded vinyl's grooves?

Theres no point in me buying Ortofon Nightclub Pro's when I can buy Numark Groovetools....

Ortofons or Whitelabels are gonna look better on my Techs than Numark GT's, but hey... Money is money.


have the same thing bothering me.
since im planning to get stanton st150 tt's ill just make use of the included 680hp and when they die ill go for the shure m44-7. buy yeah, high output is better for SSL. m44-7 has about 9 mV, while most carts (like Ortofon, Stanton etc) have 3-7 mV. hope this helps


Posted by ZeJayMan on May-27-2006 12:34:

Thanks Dudes? So High Output is the way to go, Cool! Anybody else feel free to add to this...


Posted by Zild on May-27-2006 14:55:

On top of having high output they hold the goove better than most any other cart on the market.


Posted by Allen Mueller on May-27-2006 15:42:

less weight

I use the shures also with serato also. Not only for the reasons above but also because the low wear. For them to stick well i only run about at about 2 grams. Less weight equals less wear on the record. This is very important since you use the same record over and over with serato. And like others have said they stick like glue even at the low weight settings.


allen


Posted by _-MIl0 on May-27-2006 19:11:

Using serato for about as long as it has come out i feel i can give some advice on this. If you just going to be using serato then get the best tracking carts you can. This is why rane sugests the shures. They are designed for scratch djs and thus have excelent tracking on the record making sure that when scratching they will still pick up the timecoded signel. I personally use stanton 500-II becouse sometimes i have to use origional vinyl and they still have excelent sound quality with great tracking. Theirs really no need to get any great sounding needles if your just going to be serato becouse either way the sound output will be that of your recorded file so it is in my opinion best to get the best tracking needles you can get. Just my 2 cents


Posted by djdk on May-28-2006 13:01:

Ortofon have just released the digitrack which is designed specifically for use with serato, fs etc. The reveiw in IDJ this month says that its supposed to pick up 90% of the time code information compared to 60%-70% for normal needles

http://djsupply.com/proddetail.asp?...ofonCCDigitrack

Im not convinced myself that youll get that much benefit for the extra money, my fs works fine with my knackered old Numark CC-1s.


Posted by ZeJayMan on May-29-2006 21:27:

Awesome guys, loving it. Gimme' More!


Posted by Stu Cox on May-29-2006 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk

Im not convinced myself that youll get that much benefit for the extra money, my fs works fine with my knackered old Numark CC-1s.

Although having said that, didn't we notice a big fluctuation in what FS thought the pitch was when we were using it at yours a while ago? Could that be due to the needles/amount of timecode data picked up rather than the quality of the software?


Posted by djdk on May-29-2006 23:43:

Was that before christmas tho, cause i got a new pair of fs vinyl which has significantly reduced that. Im not saying that it wont perform better with better needles, just that Im not sure that the perfomance can be increased so much as to justify spending that much cash on a pair.

Im quite willing to to give them a go if you wanna buy me a pair tho stu


Posted by gorex on May-30-2006 01:22:

shure m44-7 should be the perfect match for your control records


Posted by AGIPRODJ on May-31-2006 16:31:

It's been posted here, but to second some infomation....

Serato reccommends the M44-7. Great tracking and good output.

The Ortofon digitrack was designed for use with SSL and FS2. Again, great tracking and high output.

Personally, I've played on SSL for 2 years now. When I wasnt using CJDs, I've tried the 44G and the 447 with great results. I've also used the Whitelabels and the Ortofon Nightclubs...any of these are awesome choices for carts.

With SSL, you are going to pickup the timecode...it just really depends on your playing style. Hip-hop/turntablist - go for the 447s. House/EDM, the Orts are awesome.

Use what you are comfortable on. Just my $.02



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