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Posted by d:rek on May-27-2006 22:55:

Unhappy Artists That Have Stopped Producing Because Of Illegal File Sharing

I'm doing a paper on illegal file sharing and I was wondering if there were any EDM artists that have stopped producing songs because of not getting royalties. Any potential superstars struck down by Limewire and Kazaa? Thanks ahead of time.


Posted by sandstorm03 on May-27-2006 23:08:



DJs and producers didn't become famous with bootleg mixtapes, and file sharing.


Posted by d:rek on May-27-2006 23:12:

quote:
DJs and producers didn't become famous with bootleg mixtapes, and file sharing.


When did I say that they did?
Anyway, I know there are producers such as J00F who are quite vocal about file sharing negatively affecting the community, but are there any producers that have actually stopped producing for this reason?


Posted by RebeL9 on May-27-2006 23:15:

Airwave was close one but he changed his mind.


Posted by Clyde77 on May-28-2006 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by d:rek
When did I say that they did?


sarcasm my friend


Posted by Nayil on May-28-2006 01:19:

Dj Tiesto and Gabriel and Dresden.


Posted by Tholius on May-28-2006 02:29:

^ Lol.

Ummm... the hard trance duo... what's their name... and they said they'll go into the commercial business.... Jam X / De Leon... ya ya... back to the cannabis, bye.


Posted by Aquarian on May-28-2006 02:42:

This genre wouldn't exist without file sharing.


Posted by Zombie0915 on May-28-2006 05:31:

like on south park when stan and kyle and kenny stopped playing because of sharing, then cartman made a platinum, errr, mur chritian rock album, hehe.


Posted by idoru on May-28-2006 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
This genre wouldn't exist without file sharing.


You mean Kraftwerk, Sasha & Digweed, Oakie, Brian Eno, BT, Underworld, etc. would never have existed had it not been for something that was invented ten, maybe twelve years after they began spinning or producing?


Posted by Ishkur on May-28-2006 06:56:

No, he means the whole post-90s rise of the superstar DJ as an event attraction all by himself would not exist in any noticeable capacity if it weren't for file-sharing.

And he's right.


Posted by Philby on May-28-2006 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
like on south park when stan and kyle and kenny stopped playing because of sharing, then cartman made a platinum, errr, mur chritian rock album, hehe.


is that the one where the fbi agent takes them to see lars ulrich and britney spears, who can't upgrade their private jets and mansions cause of file sharing?


Posted by civicstyle on May-28-2006 11:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
is that the one where the fbi agent takes them to see lars ulrich and britney spears, who can't upgrade their private jets and mansions cause of file sharing?


hahahahahah

-ryAN


Posted by Aquarian on May-28-2006 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, he means the whole post-90s rise of the superstar DJ as an event attraction all by himself would not exist in any noticeable capacity if it weren't for file-sharing.

And he's right.


Not just that, I mean that 99% of it's present audience would be listening to 50 cent and britney instead. It might still be there, but with far less producers and an almost insignificant ammount of people that appreciate them.


Posted by superglo on May-28-2006 17:37:

But then again, we wont have to argue with noob kids that 'As the rush comes' is not done by tiesto.


Posted by TOR on May-28-2006 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
Airwave was close one but he changed his mind.


Thank God he did.


Posted by Derivative on May-28-2006 19:19:

The entire scene is built on bootlegs, pirate radio, dubplates, mix tapes for your mates and illegal raves etc etc.

To pack in producing because of some people sharing songs on the internet is absurd. 15 years ago exactly the same thing was happening on cassette albeit on a smaller scale. Its bigger business now.


Posted by Salegon on May-28-2006 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
Thank God he did.


+1....

Let's see what we can look forward to


Posted by Spartan on May-28-2006 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
The entire scene is built on bootlegs, pirate radio, dubplates, mix tapes for your mates and illegal raves etc etc.

To pack in producing because of some people sharing songs on the internet is absurd. 15 years ago exactly the same thing was happening on cassette albeit on a smaller scale. Its bigger business now.


haha I remember making MixTapes too I thought it was so cutting edge when I got my double cassette deck so I could play one tape and record with another. Haha it seemed so awesome then but now such an effort would be such a pain in the ass to go through.

I used to do the same thing with two VCRs to record movies I'd rent, I'd even record the FBI warning parts.


Posted by Sean Walsh on May-28-2006 22:10:

Lol, I don't think anyone produces music because they think they can make good coin doing it. I've had 2 releases that sold reasonably well and made paltry amounts of cash on it; like enough to pay for a month or rent or whatever, sure as hell not enough to make anywhere near what I make as a programmer even if I was releasing 3-4 tracks a month.

People produce because they love the music, and because it's probably the best way to get DJ bookings. Having big record labels affiliated with you gives you credit and shit that they can put beside your name on a flyer, which in turn will sell tickets to the party and hence get you booked.

Still, I'd say that there are very few producers out there that make the majority of their income from producing records, and don't supplement it with either running their own label, throwing parties, or DJ'ing.


Posted by DJ Shibby on May-28-2006 22:47:

Re: Artists That Have Stopped Producing Because Of Illegal File Sharing

quote:
Originally posted by d:rek
I'm doing a paper on illegal file sharing and I was wondering if there were any EDM artists that have stopped producing songs because of not getting royalties. Any potential superstars struck down by Limewire and Kazaa? Thanks ahead of time.


Not our beloved underground dance producers and DJs, who do it for love of the sound!!

Only those vile, revolting pop sellouts suffer from filesharing.. you have to have money to lose it!


Posted by Rinster on May-28-2006 23:56:

DJ RANKIN!!!


Posted by Ishkur on May-29-2006 00:11:

Re: Artists That Have Stopped Producing Because Of Illegal File Sharing

quote:
Originally posted by d:rek
I'm doing a paper on illegal file sharing and I was wondering if there were any EDM artists that have stopped producing songs because of not getting royalties. Any potential superstars struck down by Limewire and Kazaa? Thanks ahead of time.


Remember to add this part: For 50 years the music industry controlled what it wanted us to listen to, like, and know about in the world of music. Through carefully guarded bottlenecks, it disseminated music to a docile public in set quantities through the only mediums people could access: radio, television, newspaper. The problem with these mediums is that they are one-way. Those in control of them are equally in control of the minds and opinions of their listeners, watchers, and readers. The people had no feedback or choice. They were simply empty vessels to be filled.

Filesharing and the internet destroys this dichotomy. It eliminates the bottlenecks, it levels the playing field, and it destroys all the barriers between composer and consumer. Now, the makers of music don't have to go through the industry to have their music heard, and the listeners of music don't have to go to the industry to get new and exciting forms of it. Through the two-way medium of the internet, the people are empowered; they have a voice, a cause, and they go where the music makes them happy, not where the industry tells them to spend their money.

So you can see why the industry does not like file-sharing and the internet. It is a backdoor that bypasses their decades-old controlled bottleneck. It is a threat to their power, their position, and their ability to control the market of music consumption.


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on May-29-2006 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by bidor
DJ RANKIN!!!

Now that would be one example of the negative effects of filesharing.


Posted by Zombie0915 on May-29-2006 00:17:

said by one of the most positive effects of filesharing ^^


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