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Posted by BatteryMan on May-28-2006 16:48:

Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

Ok, I just heard a set rip of this new PVD track, and I must say, I'm very disappointed. I've not wanted to admit it, but I think it's true - PVD is going the same direction as Tiesto.

I'm sorry, but this track just sucks. It has no depth, it sounds like anybody that has used Reason for about 4 hours in their entire life-time could have made a track with the same substance as this one...same simple melody over and over, no real change to the song...and surprisingly, Ashley Tomberlin's vocals don't help the song at all either! At least at the beginning of the song, the vocals sound out of key...

I'd love to hear feedback from others on this track.


Posted by DFOP04 on May-28-2006 16:52:

paul droppeed it last night at passion, i have to say i wasnt too impressed, but it wasnt bad either. just didnt do much for me, interesting to say the least. was good to hear it live after listening to it beforehand in the live set.

dfop


Posted by Push2005 on May-28-2006 16:55:

Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by BatteryMan
but I think it's true - PVD is going the same direction as Tiesto.


Pvd is a far worse producer than Ti�sto


Posted by RapidFire on May-28-2006 17:00:

Re: Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
Pvd is a far worse producer than Ti�sto


I hope thats a joke.

anyway FUUUUUUCK vocal tracks. can he stop relying on vocalists to do the job for him? hes an amazing producer when he wants to be and he needs to get back to the good ol Seven Ways trancers.


Posted by RebeL9 on May-28-2006 17:02:

Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by BatteryMan
Ok, I just heard a set rip of this new PVD track, and I must say, I'm very disappointed. I've not wanted to admit it, but I think it's true - PVD is going the same direction as Tiesto.



you just realised this? PVDs entire last album was pure cheese. Nothing but you, the other side etc are just some examples of really low hitting tunes from the man which attacks Ian van Dahl for being cheesy


Posted by Reactic on May-28-2006 17:05:

Re: Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
Pvd is a far worse producer than Ti�sto


I agree. "wir sind wir" and "the other side" were cheap mainstream productions imo. tiestos can also do better, but "allure - the loves we lost" was really good and his last album "just be" was also ok, at least better than "reflections".

can't wait to compare both artist albums which should be released at the end of this year by pvd and tiesto.


Posted by RapidFire on May-28-2006 17:13:

Wir Sind Wir is a pretty great song without the vocal. its the vocals that kill his songs.


Posted by Reactic on May-28-2006 17:17:

lets see how pvd's next artist album will be. I'm really existed because he said that he has produced a track that he considers to be better than "for an angel".. not sure but I think pvd said this in an interview.


Posted by Push2005 on May-28-2006 17:40:

Re: Re: Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
I hope thats a joke.


No that's not a joke at all... Ti�sto had some quality releases/remixes in the past; and maybe he's still capable of diggin' some good stuff... Maybe his artist album will point that out.
Anyway Pvd produces mostly cheese; so he's the last person to agree with gareth emery that 95% of trance is cheesy bollocks


Posted by RapidFire on May-28-2006 18:10:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Paul van Dyk feat. Ashley Tomberlin - Complicated

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
No that's not a joke at all... Ti�sto had some quality releases/remixes in the past; and maybe he's still capable of diggin' some good stuff... Maybe his artist album will point that out.
Anyway Pvd produces mostly cheese; so he's the last person to agree with gareth emery that 95% of trance is cheesy bollocks


Seven Ways is better than nearly every production Tiesto has ever made.


Posted by Cloud on May-28-2006 18:28:

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quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
Seven Ways is better than nearly every production Tiesto has ever made.


no

imo


Posted by RebeL9 on May-28-2006 18:54:

to say that Tiesto is a better producer than PvD is wrong. PvDs old discography contains some amazing productions. Both alone and together with others.

Both Tiesto and PvD have shown really poor skills during the last couple of years. Just Be was a cheesy crap album just as Reflections.

So no. None of them can claim to be the front figures of trance music today.


Posted by Armada_hk on May-28-2006 18:54:

what PVD set can i find this track on. would like to give it a listen...


Posted by miamitranceman on May-28-2006 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
to say that Tiesto is a better producer than PvD is wrong. PvDs old discography contains some amazing productions. Both alone and together with others.

Both Tiesto and PvD have shown really poor skills during the last couple of years. Just Be was a cheesy crap album just as Reflections.

So no. None of them can claim to be the front figures of trance music today.



+1, they've both got some good and bad productions over the years.


Posted by BatteryMan on May-28-2006 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Armada_hk
what PVD set can i find this track on. would like to give it a listen...


not sure, didn't find a set with the track in it...just heard a version of that track that was ripped from a set (either live or soundgarden, not sure)


Posted by gk_nz on May-28-2006 23:11:

Anyone noticed how the bassline in this track is almost identical to the bassline in 'The Egg - Walking Away (Tocadisco Remix)'? Which is a track Paul has been canning for awhile.


Posted by eisbaer6 on May-29-2006 02:09:

I think this track is very good especially vocals, unfortunately i believe its a harder version of the egg - walking away. The other track ive heard of pvds newer works sounds pretty fuckin hot though - stormy skies. Very impressed.


Posted by ASFSE on May-29-2006 05:01:

ya, if anyone could upload a sample of this, that'd be great!


Posted by lucasp_10 on May-29-2006 05:42:

I havnt heard it but id say that maybe he has put the bassline over the top of this track, whatever it may be.


Posted by CAtranceaddict on May-29-2006 07:05:

I haven't heard the song personally, but I'm commenting on a few other posts in this thread. Personally, I liked Reflections overall, in spite of a couple low points of the album that I wasn't really feeling (such as "Never Forget" and "Knowledge"). But my all time fave artist album of his is Out There and Back. Nothing can top that. I thought it was even better than Seven Ways.


Posted by Mycron on May-29-2006 07:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Reactic
lets see how pvd's next artist album will be. I'm really existed because he said that he has produced a track that he considers to be better than "for an angel".. not sure but I think pvd said this in an interview.


yeah it's true, and that new track he mentioned is called "Stormy Skies".


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-29-2006 07:46:

Tiesto is just a puppet, don�t compare him with PvD.


Posted by Push2005 on May-29-2006 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
Tiesto is just a puppet, don�t compare him with PvD.


That's what I call a well explained opinion


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on May-29-2006 10:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
That's what I call a well explained opinion


I didn�t want to explain anything, mate. It�s true, Tiesto uses engineers and I have a suspicion he used them everytime he had to produce anything. PvD, yet a bit cheesy right now, is still most prolly the only man behind his tracks. He�s originally a passionate musician, great piano player with extremely sensitive feeling for music and harmonies. That�s the biggest difference between him and Tijs.

And for me, PvD knows 100 times better than Tiesto how to move the crowd, he never dissapoints me. Yeah, i�m full of feelings, heard Paul live two days ago and he totally rocked, but i would say this anytime.


Posted by lucasp_10 on May-29-2006 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Mycron
yeah it's true, and that new track he mentioned is called "Stormy Skies".


I saw him play it when he played here in sydney a couple of months ago


Good god it was good


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