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Making a MIX CD

This is what I did in order to avoid it being one continuous track:

recorded the set in 320kbps.
Opened sound forge;
1-Created markers
2-Converted markers to regions
3-Exported regions to distinct wav files.

I'm facing two problems;

1- Nero doesnt want to burn them, (file format unrecognized) I researched it and the reason this happens is the fact that the header of the packet is altered by sound forge's marker deeming the .wav file unoperable by nero.
How do you guys do it? (i tried several other free apps with the same result)

2- more general problem; the lenght of the mp3 set is around 55 minutes and size 120mb. After export in distinct wav files the total size is over cd capacity (at around 850mb)
How can you predict while recording that you are whitin the good range. How do you know you've passed the limit ?

why on earth would you record into mp3 only to convert it? record as a wav. problem solved.

a wav will fit on a CD as long as its under 80 minutes.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN why on earth would you record into mp3 only to convert it? record as a wav. problem solved. a wav will fit on a CD as long as its under 80 minutes.

because I did not intend to split it at first. By default sound forge splits it to wav files.

are you saying that even if the total output is superior to 700mb, because its wav it will still fit?

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Originally posted by gorex because I did not intend to split it at first. By default sound forge splits it to wav files.

well, if you want your CD to play on all CD-players, making an mp3 isnt the way to go.

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Originally posted by gorex are you saying that even if the total output is superior to 700mb, because its wav it will still fit?

no, im saying 80min = 700Mb. if you had recorded your set in wav, 55 mins would have been well under 700Mb. but mucking around with its file format has blown its size out (at a guess).

i dont even bother splitting them up like with SF. when i had a pc i used to use nero and edit within nero, add my own splits and make sure theres no pause between the traacks. you'll be good to go.

Your making it way to complicated.

Record the mix from a line in or whatever method you prefer
Keep it in wav format (if it's not already in .wav convert it to - this is so all CD players can read it)
If the .wav > 65 mins, split them up. It's not that difficult, any free program will do it, SF will to.
Just burn each .wav onto the cds.


If you need cue points, make a .cue file with all the info (use the sticky thread/search) and burn the .cue with Disk-at-once, I belive this will make sure there is no gap between songs, may want to google this, there's track at once and disk at once and some burning programs even say No gap between songs, just tick / enable it.

Use Nero 6! to burn. (7 has problems I hear - but don't quote me on it)

Done.

Audacity will export as wav or mp3. I do both for when I wanna make a cd or when I wanna send it to someone online. Problem solved.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Audacity will export as wav or mp3. I do both for when I wanna make a cd or when I wanna send it to someone online. Problem solved.

are the resulting wav files compatible with nero ?

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Originally posted by gorex are the resulting wav files compatible with nero ?

Yup. Burning a mix I did right now onto nero.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Yup. Burning a mix I did right now onto nero.

hey thanks man, I m gonna give audacity a try

it appears audacity doesnt have that option

What option are you talking about? All you need to do is save your mix as a wav then use a cue sheet, or you could do it the hard way and use any wav editor to cut the mix into tracks then burn the tracks in order with no gaps. Don't use markers.

i'm reffering to cutting the set in regions and exporting them.
cue sheet is mentioned a lot. I will look into it right now

Re: Making a MIX CD

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Originally posted by gorex 1-Created markers 2-Converted markers to regions 3-Exported regions to distinct wav files.

Ok this is exactly what i do and Ive never experienced a problem with nero before, but i do my recording in soundforge as well, I find its easier as I can do all the mastering there too.

Im not sure why you recorded the set as an mp3 anyway, personally I save everything as a .wav (beacause soundforge records the temp file as a normal PCM data anyway you have the option to initially save it as whatever you want) and then do any conversions from this. That way you'll always have a perfect master copy as a .wav that doesnt have any of the imperfections that mp3s do and you wont have to worry about any of these burning issues. If space is an issue you can just burn a copy to CD and then delete the .wav from your HD. Ive found this method works well for me.

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Originally posted by gorex i'm reffering to cutting the set in regions and exporting them. cue sheet is mentioned a lot. I will look into it right now

Oh the region things. Yeah I don't have any experience with that I'd definitely check out the thread about cue sheets though. They're simple and easy.

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Originally posted by djdk Ok this is exactly what i do and Ive never experienced a problem with nero before, but i do my recording in soundforge as well, I find its easier as I can do all the mastering there too.

quoted from nero's website:

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If your WAV files have been saved using Sonic Foundry's Acid or SoundForge programs and other similar programs, the files may be no standard WAV files. Sometimes such programs save WAV files with markers inside the file. Although this never affects the replay of a file (even in Nero), Nero refuses to burn any CD with a WAV file that has these markers encoded in them. It's best to set these programs in a way they do not generate this header information when they create WAV files. This will help to ensure compatibility with other programs such as Nero. If an audio file already contains this header information, you can try and resolve it by using a third party software, possibly even the software that created the audio file. Just delete a very small portion of the beginning of the audio file. A very small portion deleted is all that is needed to remove this header information and allow Nero to work with the file.

I believe the problem will be solved if the original file is saved in wav

record your set to wav

don't cut the wav into smaller pieces, leave it as it is

make a cue file (hint: check the tutorials forum, there's a sticky there)

burn the cue file onto a cd, if you've done it right it will reference the audio you tell it to (you'll learn this in the cue file thread) and burn a working cd free of gaps

record your set.

http://musicutter.szm.sk/
musiCutter. you open the mp3, you give it the times (hour, minute, second, frame) and it'll cut it up for you. (you can also feed it a .CUE for points)

then, take your cut files, throw them in nero, make sure theyre in proper order, and select 'No Pause Between Tracks'. burn. good to go.

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Originally posted by Inertia record your set. http://musicutter.szm.sk/ musiCutter. you open the mp3, you give it the times (hour, minute, second, frame) and it'll cut it up for you. (you can also feed it a .CUE for points) then, take your cut files, throw them in nero, make sure theyre in proper order, and select 'No Pause Between Tracks'. burn. good to go.

FFS, am i speaking gibberish?

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record your set to wav don't cut the wav into smaller pieces, leave it as it is make a cue file (hint: check the tutorials forum, there's a sticky there) burn the cue file onto a cd, if you've done it right it will reference the audio you tell it to (you'll learn this in the cue file thread) and burn a working cd free of gaps

you don't need to cut anything

non-destructive is always better than destructive

preserve your audio

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Originally posted by Tony Morello FFS, am i speaking gibberish?

chill out. it's just sometimes i don't feel like going through the process of writing a cuesheet. so i just dump the times in MC, it cuts, and i use Nero to burn. i've had issues with Nero crashing on me when i fed it cuesheets in the past, so i do this to be sure.

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