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Posted by xstalkrx on May-31-2006 06:29:

Master Tempo on CDJ's

I read that the master tempo maintains pitch of the track even when you change the speed. I thought pitch = speed. Please explain this to me in noob terms. I'm not understanding its function or why its useful.

Posted by anth_on_e on May-31-2006 06:42:

speed = tempo (how fast the song is playing)

when you move the pitch slider, the way the voices/instruments sound also changes. If you move the pitch up to 50% on a hip hop track, it will sound like chipmunks talking. Keeping the master tempo on keeps the voices normal,but it still speeds up the track.

Posted by Aquarian on May-31-2006 14:11:

and completely screws up the sound quality in the process

Posted by Fusic on May-31-2006 14:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
and completely screws up the sound quality in the process

+1, I never use the master tempo on my cdj-1000mk2's. even though their the best master tempo on the market.

Posted by Ryan0751 on May-31-2006 15:24:

Well that's not totally fair... the mater tempo does cause artifacting, but only if you try to speed a track up more than you probably should anyway...

Realistically you'll only be pitching up or down 5% for most trance/house. In that range master tempo doesn't affect the sound quality much (if at all, I certainly can't tell).

I don't really use it much... though it can be useful for keeping things in key when harmonic mixing.

quote:
Originally posted by Fusic
+1, I never use the master tempo on my cdj-1000mk2's. even though their the best master tempo on the market.

Posted by Aquarian on May-31-2006 15:35:

I wish there was a way to bend half the % in master tempo and the other half by normal pitching (or is that too weird?)

Posted by Ryan0751 on May-31-2006 17:37:

Yes that's weird

For Ableton peeps, the tempo control in ableton is essentially ALWAYS master tempo. They have a separate pitch control for keying up and down.

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I wish there was a way to bend half the % in master tempo and the other half by normal pitching (or is that too weird?)

Posted by Tegu on May-31-2006 20:49:

thanks for the heads up guys. i had the same question. just ordered my cdjs from agi. should get here next week!

Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-01-2006 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
thanks for the heads up guys. i had the same question. just ordered my cdjs from agi. should get here next week!

What did you get and how much did they quote you? Just curious cuz my 800s are on the way from them too!

Posted by miamitranceman on Jun-01-2006 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
and completely screws up the sound quality in the process

For that try using virtual dj...sounds like shit even pitched (tempoed) up a little.

Posted by esselfortium on Jun-01-2006 06:00:

Traktor's highest-quality timestretching algorithm sounds pretty good to me, even if you stretch it quite a bit. Can anyone here show me the error of my ways, tell me it sounds horrible, etc? ;p

Mike

Posted by Clovis on Jun-01-2006 06:05:

I never use it beyond +/- 3.5% as I can usually hear a slight difference. Sometimes it also messes with the kick above that % and makes mixing a little harder...

Posted by sr126 on Jun-01-2006 06:26:

the pitch lock/master tempo on the denon dnd4500 sucks. the closer it is to +/-0, the less it sucks. i still make it a point to refuse to use it.

hahaha @ clovis sig.

where did you get that sig from?

i want to get argentinian one, because we're gonna take it.
and one for italian too, for myself too, but mostly for my mom.

Posted by Clovis on Jun-01-2006 06:31:

quote:
Originally posted by sr126
the pitch lock/master tempo on the denon dnd4500 sucks. the closer it is to +/-0, the less it sucks. i still make it a point to refuse to use it.

hahaha @ clovis sig.

where did you get that sig from?

i want to get argentinian one, because we're gonna take it.
and one for italian too, for myself too, but mostly for my mom.

Go in the sports forum, then world cup forum, and you'll find a thread by Lira with all the sigs...!

Posted by sr126 on Jun-01-2006 07:03:

thank you much clovis!

Posted by DjWoody on Jun-01-2006 17:48:

I want a Mexico one!!!!

Master Tempo on the CDJ's rock!!!! It's true that you get a slight sound quality loss when abusing it, and mixing can be a bit harder, but it's all a matter of getting used to.

Posted by Greedy on Jun-01-2006 18:19:

a lot of ppl use it simply because you cant hear the change in pitch if you touch the platter in the middle of a mix. Its called cheating, but whatever floats ya boat.

Posted by Ryan0751 on Jun-01-2006 18:27:

Correcting a mix is cheating? Mistakes happen, fixing them quickly and silently isn't cheating in my book.

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
a lot of ppl use it simply because you cant hear the change in pitch if you touch the platter in the middle of a mix. Its called cheating, but whatever floats ya boat.

Posted by Greedy on Jun-01-2006 18:47:

its cheating because ppl have been mixing without the master tempo function on vinyl for ages perfectly.

Posted by Ryan0751 on Jun-01-2006 18:51:

People mixed without eq's on their mixers, nor gain controls, nor LED meters, nor split-cue for 20 years. Are those cheating too?

It's just a tool!

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
its cheating because ppl have been mixing without the master tempo function on vinyl for ages perfectly.

Posted by djillicit on Aug-11-2006 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
People mixed without eq's on their mixers, nor gain controls, nor LED meters, nor split-cue for 20 years. Are those cheating too?

It's just a tool!

loooollllllllllll hahahaha.... funny shit.

Posted by spolitta on Aug-11-2006 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
its cheating because ppl have been mixing without the master tempo function on vinyl for ages perfectly.

Didn�t you have anything more interesting to say?