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OMG-2: American soldiers kill pregnant Iraqi woman

WTF is going on lately, the string of recent horrors caused by trigger-happy Americans is just outrageous

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531...aq_women_killed

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U.S. troops kill pregnant woman in Iraq BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. forces killed two Iraqi women � one of them about to give birth � when the troops shot at a car that failed to stop at an observation post in a city north of Baghdad, Iraqi officials and relatives said Wednesday. Nabiha Nisaif Jassim, 35, was being raced to the maternity hospital in Samarra by her brother when the shooting occurred Tuesday. Jassim, the mother of two children, and her 57-year-old cousin, Saliha Mohammed Hassan, were killed by the U.S. forces, according to police Capt. Laith Mohammed and witnesses. The U.S. military said coalition troops fired at a car after it entered a clearly marked prohibited area near an observation post but failed to stop despite repeated visual and auditory warnings. "Shots were fired to disable the vehicle," the military said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press. "Coalition forces later received reports from Iraqi police that two women had died from gunshot wounds ... and one of the females may have been pregnant." Jassim's brother, who was wounded by broken glass, said he did not see any warnings as he sped his sister to the hospital. Her husband was waiting for her there. "I was driving my car at full speed because I did not see any sign or warning from the Americans. It was not until they shot the two bullets that killed my sister and cousin that I stopped," he said. "God take revenge on the Americans and those who brought them here. They have no regard for our lives." He said doctors tried but failed to save the baby after his sister was brought to the hospital. The shooting deaths occurred in the wake of an investigation into allegations that U.S. Marines killed unarmed civilians in the western city of Haditha. The U.S. military said the incident in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, was being investigated. The city is in the heart of the so-called Sunni Triangle and has in the past seen heavy insurgent activity. "The loss of life is regrettable and coalition forces go to great lengths to prevent them," the military said. The women's bodies were wrapped in sheets and lying on stretchers outside the Samarra General Hospital before being taken to the morgue, while residents pointed to bullet holes on the windshield of a car and a pool of blood on the seat. Khalid Nisaif Jassim, the pregnant woman's brother, said American forces had blocked off the side road only two weeks ago and news about the observation post had been slow to filter out to rural areas. He said the killings, like those in Haditha, were examples of random killings faced by Iraqis every day. The killings at Haditha, a city that has been plagued by insurgents, came after a bomb rocked a military convoy on Nov. 19, killing a Marine. Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record), D-Pa., a decorated war veteran who has been briefed by military officials, has said Marines shot and killed unarmed civilians in a taxi at the scene and went into two homes and shot others. Military investigators have evidence that points toward unprovoked murders by Marines, a senior defense official said last week. In his first public comments on the incident, President Bush said he was troubled by the allegations, and that, "If in fact laws were broken, there will be punishment." Former Iraqi Foreign Minister Adnan Pachachi told the BBC that the allegations have "created a feeling of great shock and sadness and I believe that if what is alleged is true � and I have no reason to believe it's not � then I think something very drastic has to be done." "There must be a level of discipline imposed on the American troops and change of mentality which seems to think that Iraqi lives are expendable," said Pachachi, a member of parliament. If confirmed as unjustified killings, the episode could be the most serious case of criminal misconduct by U.S. troops during three years of combat in Iraq. Until now the most infamous occurrence was the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse involving Army soldiers, which came to light in April 2004 and which Bush said he considered to be the worst U.S. mistake of the entire war. Once the military investigation is completed, perhaps in June, it will be up to a senior Marine commander in Iraq to decide whether to press charges of murder or other violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The incident has sparked two investigations � one into the deadly encounter itself and another into whether it was the subject of a cover-up. The Marine Corps had initially attributed 15 civilian deaths to the car bombing and a firefight with insurgents, eight of whom the Marines reported had been killed. "People in Samarra are very angry with the Americans not only because of Haditha case but because the Americans kill people randomly specially recently," Khalid Nisaif Jassim said.

Same thing has been happening for years in Gaza Strip & west bank.

It's usually more a matter of not valuing civilian life than it is "hey lets go kill someone" as it was with the haditha incident.

This hasn't been going on "letely," it's been going on for a while. Some media outlets are actually doing some minimal reporting on such attrocities now.

OMG OMG the terrorists killed about 6000 women and kids in the past few months... OMG OMG... why dont u report that one u wacko

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Originally posted by Dusco OMG OMG the terrorists killed about 6000 women and kids in the past few months... OMG OMG... why dont u report that one u wacko

So you are saying it is ok for the Americans to go around and shoot anything that walks?They are there for so called protecting people and gain peopls trusts,do you know what a negative impact will this have on the Americans there?


A terrorists job is to kill people but whats soldiers job?to kill innocent people too?

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Originally posted by Dusco OMG OMG the terrorists killed about 6000 women and kids in the past few months... OMG OMG... why dont u report that one u wacko

so you're equating terrorists with American soldiers now?

truly WOW this is a whole new level of discussion...

it's war accidents happen.. Its not like US troops are there just to kill civilians.. in every war civilians have been killed. show me a war in history where no civilians where killed and i'll eat your ass hole


hardcore trancer i see your Pro iran.. what if they nuke canada then what?... yall run to america and cry for help just like every other country on earth

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Originally posted by Dusco hardcore trancer i see your Pro iran.. what if they nuke canada then what?... yall run to america and cry for help just like every other country on earth

lol looks like we have another missinformed paranoid American here.


Here is a quesion for ya?what if North Korea nukes you tomorrow?you do know that they have nukes and can reach the U.S., so why arent you afraid of that scenario?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer lol looks like we have another missinformed paranoid American here. Here is a quesion for ya?what if North Korea nukes you tomorrow?you do know that they have nukes and can reach the U.S., so why arent you afraid of that scenario?

All Americans are paranoid when they dont agree with you, and the ones that agree with you, you make them out to be geniuses.

North Korea isnt such a big problem right now, and thats not how you look problems. You just say that, because you hate the fact that Americans are involved in the Middle East, that we support Israel, and not the rest of the backward countries that surround it. There are alot of countries that posses nucleaur arms, but alot of those countries are responsible and wouldnt do crazy things that Iran might do. Sure, Russia has nuclear weapons, why dont we attack them? Thats a stupid way to annalize things.


As for the soldiers killing a woman, kind of reminds me of that episode on "The Other Side", the TV series that appeared on FX, and when a U.S soldier killed a woman and a teenage boy, the whole Arab world started making it like it was the worst thing in the world. I mean, there are crazy people out there, but not in a level to shoot and kill a pregnat woman, unless she was harmfull.

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Originally posted by Kapedan All Americans are paranoid when they dont agree with you, and the ones that agree with you, you make them out to be geniuses.

Most are paranoid but cant really blame them really since their government has been playing fear games with them for the last few years.

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North Korea isnt such a big problem right now, and thats not how you look problems. You just say that, because you hate the fact that Americans are involved in the Middle East, that we support Israel, and not the rest of the backward countries that surround it.

If NK bombs the shit out of you tomorrow dont come here and cry.
Backward countries? I thought Afghanistan and Iraq are close alies to the U.S??

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There are alot of countries that posses nucleaur arms, but alot of those countries are responsible and wouldnt do crazy things that Iran might do.

lol so you think Pakistand and India are responsible countries?you think Isreal is responsible too?they will use their nukes in a sec as soon as they get touched.

If Iran is so evil then why havent they attacked anyone yet?

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I mean, there are crazy people out there, but not in a level to shoot and kill a pregnat woman, unless she was harmfull.

come on are you that paranoid? wtf can a pregnant woman possibly do when she is about to give birth? is she gonna blow missiles out of her ass or something?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Most are paranoid but cant really blame them really since their government has been playing fear games with them for the last few years. If NK bombs the shit out of you tomorrow dont come here and cry. Backward countries? I thought Afghanistan and Iraq are close alies to the U.S?? lol so you think Pakistand and India are responsible countries?you think Isreal is responsible too?they will use their nukes in a sec as soon as they get touched. If Iran is so evil then why havent they attacked anyone yet? come on are you that paranoid? wtf can a pregnant woman possibly do when she is about to give birth? is she gonna blow missiles out of her ass or something?

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LOL

i agree with you on what youre saying ! its funny , that everyone wants iran to stop its nuclear program, while at the same time , israel and the US , have stated that they will use force when necessary to defend Israel , when no one said anything about attacking israel !

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Originally posted by Dusco OMG OMG the terrorists killed about 6000 women and kids in the past few months... OMG OMG... why dont u report that one u wacko

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Originally posted by Dusco OMG OMG the terrorists killed about 6000 women and kids in the past few months... OMG OMG... why dont u report that one u wacko

Source?

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Originally posted by Kapedan North Korea isnt such a big problem right now, and thats not how you look problems.

And Iraq was a big problem when you decided to invade The country without any WMDs was somehow more dangerous than a country with a nice collection of nukes?

I could understand how a pregnant women might end up being killed. She didn't understand what the soldiers were telling her so she moves panicked because she is afraid and then the soldiers shoot thinking that that big stomach of hers is carrying a huge bomb.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid I could understand how a pregnant women might end up being killed. She didn't understand what the soldiers were telling her so she moves panicked because she is afraid and then the soldiers shoot thinking that that big stomach of hers is carrying a huge bomb.

actually they said that she was in the back seat of a car that was driving her to the emergency room cause she was in labor, soldiers opened fire on the car cause it did not stop, its kind of sad, now this is really going to get bad..

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Originally posted by LazFX actually they said that she was in the back seat of a car that was driving her to the emergency room cause she was in labor, soldiers opened fire on the car cause it did not stop, its kind of sad, now this is really going to get bad..

So soldiers did not know she was in labor...? Because if they did, they wouldnt of opened fire.

Bad? Come on, Iraqis are blowing themselfs up, and just because one pregnat woman gets killed by an accident, all of a suddon its gonna get worst.

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Originally posted by Kapedan Bad? Come on, Iraqis are blowing themselfs up, and just because one pregnat woman gets killed by an accident, all of a suddon its gonna get worst.

Yep with every civilian that gets killed over there makes it worse for us.

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