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Posted by DeZmA on Jun-04-2006 20:13:

Small desktop mixer. Any suggestions?

It should have at least 6 inputs. 2 for 2 synths an 2 for the dj mixer. I've been looking at the soundcraft series but the 2 stereo ins have these have the crappy 1/4 jack connections.
Any suggestions for a small mixer?
Limit is 250 �.


Posted by ASFSE on Jun-04-2006 20:54:

save some more money and get either the mackie 1202 or 1402 vlz pro...


Posted by spolitta on Jun-04-2006 22:14:

Have you looked at the Yamaha MG 12/4? It's a solid mixer, had it for 2 years and it worked really fine.


Posted by dEEkAy on Jun-05-2006 01:18:

Re: Small desktop mixer. Any suggestions?

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
I've been looking at the soundcraft series but the 2 stereo ins have these have the crappy 1/4 jack connections.


I dont wanna disappoint you but 1/4 jack connections are state-of-the-art in the professional sector.
RCA/Cinch is the consumer standard.

Anyway, maybe look at the Behringer Series, they should have something half-decent for 250 bux.
Something like: http://www.behringer.com/VMX1000/index.cfm?lang=ENG


Posted by wrzonance on Jun-05-2006 02:21:

Re: Small desktop mixer. Any suggestions?

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
crappy 1/4 jack connections


LOL. Yea... RCA connectors aren't balanced. 1/4"TRS connectors are balanced.

Balanced = Good.
Industry standard = Good.

Can't go wrong with a 6 channel alesis.

Oh and don't complain about 1/4", there's always RCA -> 1/4" adaptors.

*edit*

Oh and don't go berhinger. Just because they're cheap doesn't mean they're worth the buy. Go for a simple mackie, or an alesis, any of those will do. Avoid the Berinshite at all costs.

Some good alternatives:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEMM6FX
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACDFX6


Posted by trancemo6 on Jun-05-2006 02:32:

Re: Re: Small desktop mixer. Any suggestions?

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
Oh and don't go berhinger.


Por Que?


Posted by DJSentinel on Jun-05-2006 03:34:

Re: Re: Small desktop mixer. Any suggestions?

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
LOL. Yea... RCA connectors aren't balanced. 1/4"TRS connectors are balanced.

Balanced = Good.
Industry standard = Good.

Can't go wrong with a 6 channel alesis.

Oh and don't complain about 1/4", there's always RCA -> 1/4" adaptors.

*edit*

Oh and don't go berhinger. Just because they're cheap doesn't mean they're worth the buy. Go for a simple mackie, or an alesis, any of those will do. Avoid the Berinshite at all costs.

Some good alternatives:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEMM6FX
http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACDFX6


Now what exactly is so "shitty" about the Berinshite? I have an 8 channel mixer from them and it works as any mixer should... perfectly.

Maybe you just don't like the name ;-)

Pce,
DJS


Posted by wrzonance on Jun-05-2006 03:47:

Well this topic has ALREADY been gone over before in other threads. But *sigh* I'll defend my distate with Behringer once again.

1. http://broadcastengineering.com/new...0226/index.html

2. Personal reasons. My DJX700 sucks. Horrible piece of electronics.

3. Other testimonials. Plenty of people have made the mistake of opting for lower prices, and have always spent even more moneying buying equipment that works. I bought a DJX700. Shit. It sucks. Now I'm out 250$ plus the money I'd have to spend to buy a quality DJ Mixer. Boy I'm stupid for buying Behringer.

4. Ok. For those of you "defending" Behringer, you may have gotten lucky! You may have gotten one of their devices that work just fine. And happy day for you. BUT, it's the INCONSISTENCY in quality of workmanship which makes them a bad choice.

Others will back me up on this. So please. Enough.

Friends don't let friends buy Behringer.


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-05-2006 09:59:

Sorry, my mistake, I meant rca of course. These are the connections on those ultra compact soundcraft mixers. (Except for the 2 xlr's).

I know behringer sucks and I'm not going to buy a mixer of them, they might copy the design of mackie (they have been sued several times) but their internal circuit remains crap. I know some guys who use them and after a while there's a lot of noise when you move the faders. If you want low budget I think tapco is good.

Would soundcraft be comparable to mackie quality wise?
I've boon looking at these mixers and they look okay. Also if you have a quality mixing desk, do you still need a preamp for a condensor mic or are the built-in preamps good enough?


Posted by wrzonance on Jun-05-2006 14:37:

Built in pres on Mackie mixers are kind of joked about at school. We call it the "Mackie Magic."

I would much rather have an outboard esoteric pre-amp to power my condenser microphones. Granted, the pre-amps on a soundcraft, mackie, tapco, alesis, behringer--- all have Phanotom power 48v, but the quality in the pre-amp circuit varies.

I'm actually really not familiar with the soundcraft brand of mixers so I can't give you an educated opinion on the way they sound.

Keep doing your research. And if you can, find a good pro-audio store to try things out. AND ask opinions of the sales people. Granted, some of the sales guys will try to sell you the best. BUT... Depending on the store/person, you might just get the expert advice you need. A lot of pro-audio people never go farther than retail, and have been in it for years, they'll know plenty.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-05-2006 19:10:

alesis has a new line of mixers that have USB/firewire interface. I'd recommend getting a firewire interface - this way you can record straight from the mixer to the Cubase on all channels, as opposed to USB - which only gives you 2 (main outs). they're small and actually not too expensive. Plus you have some built-in FX. You can get a 8/12/16 channel mixers and not too expensive. You can probably get a 12 chanel, firewire mixer for about $380.

cheers.

edit: here's a link for 12 ch:
http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=93

I'd recommend staying away from 8, as it offers pots instead of sliders. 16 is a way to go if you have lots of gear.


Posted by wrzonance on Jun-05-2006 19:13:

EMC read my mind. I've been looking into the 12 ch firewire mixer from Alesis.

Hmm... I'll keep it in mind some more now.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-05-2006 19:16:

there are bunch available for $375 on e-gay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alesis-MultiMix...1QQcmdZViewItem


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-05-2006 21:36:

Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like a fine mixer but it's more than double the budget here in Europe . Anyway, I'm in no real need for firewire implementation right now, my virus TI will be streamed to USB so it's only my AN1X and my dj mixer.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-05-2006 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
Thanks for the suggestion. Looks like a fine mixer but it's more than double the budget here in Europe . Anyway, I'm in no real need for firewire implementation right now, my virus TI will be streamed to USB so it's only my AN1X and my dj mixer.


Get it from US and have it shipped over - should be no more than $60-$80 to have it shipped.

p.s hello from a fellow AN1x/Ti user!


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-05-2006 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
Get it from US and have it shipped over - should be no more than $60-$80 to have it shipped.

p.s hello from a fellow AN1x/Ti user!


hello ,
In fact I'm a future virus TI user, I'm selling my nova, �Q, sh-32 and some other stuff in order to buy a TI. The point is to move to a semi-software studio with one workstation/midi controller. My an1x never leaves this place tho . Great stuff, it's the main reason why I need a mixer.

About the mixer, beside the fact that it takes up to 6 weeks to arrive and that it has another power supply I really don't have that much cash to spend on a mixer.
I'm sure it's a great tool but I don't need the amounts of in/outs nor the firewire.
Armin uses soundcraft, it can't be that bad


Posted by Diginerd on Jun-05-2006 22:53:

Ghost is very different to Folio or Spirit..


That said they're all good desks for the money. Soundcraft, Allen & Heath, Mackie would be my top picks in that kind of price range.

Avoid Mehringer. Really.


Posted by aNYthing on Jun-08-2006 04:27:

you can get a decent yamaha mixer for about $100 they are pretty decent.


Posted by -mk- on Jun-10-2006 03:01:

Has anyone tested out those small Tapco mixers? I'd be intrested in their build-quality and sound characteristics. They look too cheap to be good, but you never know...



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