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I don't like Xone Mixers...

Tuss, your post in another thread, spawned the below rant.. and it was long enough to warrant a New Thread.

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Originally posted by go xone, i have a 62 and its the 4 band eq that does it for me, soooo much better than a regular 3 band, oh ya and the filters are pretty decent themselves

I don't like Xone's.........

Well, that's not completely true, however lastnight while I was down at the local DJ shop to order my new mixer (it was a toss between Xone32 and Nuo3) I was talking with the salesman and he had mentioned they just got 3 brand new Xone mixers in on saturday. An 02, 62 & 92.. and myself, never having ever touched one in person, asked to have him pull it out and set it up for me to see what it was like. So he pulled out the Xone62...

Yes, they are gorgeous mixers.
Yes, they have amazing faders.
Yes, they have excellent sounds quality.

But thats where it ended...

The 4 band eq's, didn't impress me at all, the 2 mids didn't change the levels nearly as much as I would have hoped, not to mention the lack of FULL cuts across the board really put a damper on my views.
Then, what I was most curious about... The filters. Nice, but nothing amazing IMO. They wouldn't fit in with the genre I spin, nor my mixing style. In all honesty, they were boring to use.

Two of Xone's biggest features (aside from sound quality & faders which can be found on other mixers) and I wasn't impressed. So, that seriously took the Xone32 out of the picture for my purchase, which left me with the Nuo3... hbut then itas no filters or effects.. which I figured was boring as well, and wouldn't help me progress and grow as a DJ.

So I went with something else..


Disclaimer: This is my personal preference and in no way was posted to start a flame war..

so what did you end up buying?

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Originally posted by Soundwerks so what did you end up buying?

Not gonna post that until it gets here.. and when I do post it will be with pics in the Bedroom pics thread.

like i always say, its ALWAYS ALWAYS personal preferance. what genre do you spin by the way? also you wont hear a huge difference in the mids with near field monitors. if you hear it on a huge system, you will be able to tell. i wanna know what mixer you got too, stop being a tease

i want to know too, am trying to decide between a xone32 ot a nuo2....

tell us!

I do actually agree with you on this... The 4 band eq shits me a fair bit and should make much more of an impact to my mixing than it does. My mate feels the same way and just sold his xone 92 and brought a Rane mixer with an efx-1000... This kinda annoyed me because he was talking about getting the vestax Carl Cox mixer for ages (which is a very fekking noice peice of kit).
Anyway I must admit I prefer the newer purchaces. The xone's are quite hyped up about there great faders and sound quality and yeah they do have that, apart from that there filters annoy the shit out of me and are not very user friendly.

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Originally posted by Timski apart from that there filters annoy the shit out of me and are not very user friendly.

that is true, the filters are not that user friendly but once you get the hang of them, you can do a whole lot. i love combining the high pass and the mid pass filter and using them like that.

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Originally posted by kimchi like i always say, its ALWAYS ALWAYS personal preferance. what genre do you spin by the way? also you wont hear a huge difference in the mids with near field monitors. if you hear it on a huge system, you will be able to tell.

I spin Psytrance... and I mainly plan to use my setup with Near field monitors so the EQ's really wouldn't have been a benefit..

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Originally posted by simms327 i want to know too, am trying to decide between a xone32 ot a nuo2.... tell us!

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Originally posted by kimchi i wanna know what mixer you got too, stop being a tease

Hahahahahaa.... No can do.. But I can tell you that it is a mixer that has NEVER been posted in the DJ Bedroom pics thread..

ETA on the arrival?

Too long..

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Originally posted by J:\Digital I spin Psytrance... and I mainly plan to use my setup with Near field monitors so the EQ's really wouldn't have been a benefit.. Hahahahahaa.... No can do.. But I can tell you that it is a mixer that has NEVER been posted in the DJ Bedroom pics thread..

stop teasing us and tell us what mixer your getting! hahah

well its obviously not a Xone and its something pretty good but a little out of the ordinary.

Urei's and Bozaks have been posted in the bedroom thread - and would probably be out of his price range.
Rane's have been posted.

I'm thinking possibly its a big Vestax one. Maybe a DJM-1000.

fair enough, to each their own, i personally find the 2 mids to be very helpful in mixing, i play house/prog/electro, and to drop the low mid and full the high mid sounds wicked when bringing in a new track. i use the filters on a low/mid combo, or just low, never use the high much. but i know what your saying, when i first got mine, i thought the filters were annoying to use, and the 4 band eq was meh, til i brought it home and started to experiment with completely new mixing techniques and sounds that just are'nt the same with a 3 band and the filter. either way i hope you enjoy ur new mixer! i also got a new set-up to post, hopefully this week.

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Originally posted by fair enough, to each their own, i personally find the 2 mids to be very helpful in mixing, i play house/prog/electro, and to drop the low mid and full the high mid sounds wicked when bringing in a new track. i use the filters on a low/mid combo, or just low, never use the high much. but i know what your saying, when i first got mine, i thought the filters were annoying to use, and the 4 band eq was meh, til i brought it home and started to experiment with completely new mixing techniques and sounds that just are'nt the same with a 3 band and the filter. either way i hope you enjoy ur new mixer! i also got a new set-up to post, hopefully this week.

What type of speakers are you using with the Xone?

Re: I don't like Xone Mixers...

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Originally posted by J:\Digital The filters. Nice, but nothing amazing IMO. They wouldn't fit in with the genre I spin, nor my mixing style.

This may be true, or it may simply be a matter of whether it fits in with your mixing style but personally I think if used right, filters are the one effect that can be very useful with every genre... remember they're not just for doing big sweeps up and down for the sake of an effect - they can be used really effectively to help bring a track in smoothly, particularly if you vary the resonance to make their sound more suitable for what you're doing... and loads more.

i bet it's soundcraft urei 1603!

Glad you finally are getting a good mixer, now I get get my old behringer back so I can use it as a table or some shit again. .

I'm almost certain I know what mixer hes getting, nobody has guessed right yet, need to think more on the smaller scale of mixers, if he was looking at the Xone32 and Nuo3, what other mixers in that league would there be?

If anyone wants to know, Paypal me $50 bux and I'll tell ya.

No im not a huge fan of them either...... partially comes from the faders and partially coming from me kind of liking to buck the trend away from anything thats overhyped.

Filters are very good and useful- but the rest to me is pretty boring and nothing amazing.
The fact that you can buy filter units seperately would sway (and indeed did sway) me away from buying one.

4 band eq is useful-but ive rarely seen anyone touch anything except the bass eq on them- and that includes AAA list guys Ive worked with too. To most people, it would be like a dog having 4 dicks- it doesnt know which one to play with and when- and it doesnt know how to use them together.


Edit: i prefer A&H to pioneers......

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Originally posted by DannyO Glad you finally are getting a good mixer, now I get get my old behringer back so I can use it as a table or some shit again. . I'm almost certain I know what mixer hes getting

Yea, you can have you shitty behringer coffee table back... in about 2-3 weeks..

And your guess you sent me on MSN is also wrong.. You gotta think bigger man...

However,

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Originally posted by skip i bet it's soundcraft urei 1603!

went through my head for a few moments before I left for the shop.. but I haven't done enough research about them.

Ok, so I'll add another random bizarre (at least I think) preference to the mix: I prefer the Xone 62 to the 92 (Linear, haven't played on the rotary).

I just think the upfaders on the 92 feel cheap and loose - And beyond that, I guess I just feel that the all round build of the 92 bothers me a touch. The switches to turn on the filters and assign faders feel like after a while they'd wear down and need to be replaced.

I still think it's a rock solid mixer - And will definitely say that with the trend du jour being people talking shit about A&H (it's seemingly happening on every DJ forum I'm a part of recently) I prefer A&H mixers to Pioneer any day, especially the DJM 800 and 1000, both of which I didn't particularly care for when I had the opportunity to play on them.

I've never played on a Urei, Ecler, or Rane Rotary, so i've got no basis for comparison, but at the end of the day I like my Xone 62 quite a bit

aren't A&H's handbuilt in England?

and they're real workhorses too, right, like technics 1200s?

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aren't A&H's handbuilt in England?

yes.
So are TVR's

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Originally posted by Freak yes. So are TVR's

ah...from England with love.
that's a big plus in my book. i was very disappointed when my Alesis M1 Actives arrived and they said "Made in China" on them.

i'm willing to bet the DJM 800 is assembled in China?

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Originally posted by Tegu i'm willing to bet the DJM 800 is assembled in China?

It still feels a quite a bit nicer than previous Pioneer mixers... It just does still feel a little cheap for the money.

i just polished my Xone62 last night with Brasso. Its so shiny

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