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Posted by TazZ-erT on Jun-07-2006 08:11:

How Do I Produce Like Armin van Buuren

OK, I dont really wanna produce like Armin does but I know the topic title will generate more people to view

So this is my first post in this part of the forum, I have recently got into producing and im just using my PC right now. Im using Reason 3.0... The reason I post this topic is because im having serious trouble coming up with some decent sounding Basslines and I was wondering if you guys have any hints, tips or tutorials that could help me out in creating some decent ones?

P.S I used the search and it came up with nothing!

Thanks in advance
TazZ-erT

Posted by DeZmA on Jun-07-2006 08:16:

Break in to his house and steal his stuff. You'll be producing kick ass things in no time.

Posted by staticblue on Jun-07-2006 08:24:

try and use the search better

Posted by mzvirbulis on Jun-07-2006 08:29:

it's called time i think?

but yeah just spend time ! thats the only way.

good luck, im only just starting to make good basslines in reason now. been using since nearly a year.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jun-07-2006 08:46:

I think I'm gonna go sit in the corner and cry...

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jun-07-2006 08:46:

lol i was about to flame u before i read your post haha...but yea just keep trying man...try try try and just put as much time as want into learning by trial and error then post your tracks here for advice...this is the way i did it and later on i stumbled on good tutorials and faqs that helped me to "hone" my present work flow...so just go for it man!

Posted by tranceinjection on Jun-07-2006 09:42:

You cannot learn in a day what�s taken people years to learn. Lots of producers on here won�t give away their secrets when they have sweated blood and tears to make this sound or make that sound.
Most producers on here are perfectionists and will help to a certain degree, but can only offer help and advice, but cannot tell you how to make music.
You need to get stuck in and start tweaking sounds and start making your own sounds, make tunes and get reviews then listen to what the reviews have to say and make some more tunes.
Eventually you will start to get better and start to produce some really amazing quality tracks; it might have taken you two years to do it!
Then you will get a newbie asking you how to make music like this Dj or that producer, and it�s taken you two years to learn everything you know and this newbie wants to learn it all in one day?

Posted by alexlosy on Jun-07-2006 10:26:

Comes with time young friend.

You can't rush these things, you learn, keep learning....about everything and one day you'll be able to put them together to make a track.

When playing with reason, dont try and make a track but just play around with malstrom and subtractor and effect units and after time you will know them well and be able to put them together!

Hope this helps!

Posted by DeZmA on Jun-07-2006 10:31:

Can't believe everybody is answering this serious having 2 production newbie help threads in fat in the stickies 3 mm above this thread.

Posted by BOOsTER on Jun-07-2006 10:44:

Mr.Mystery: +1

booster says: Flaming needed!

Posted by farris on Jun-07-2006 11:05:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
Mr.Mystery: +1

booster says: Flaming needed!

You are teh evil!

Posted by music2dance2 on Jun-07-2006 11:42:

Dude you should use the search more or failing that just browse a little this great thread was on the second page. You'll find this should help out.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44854

Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-07-2006 12:13:

you will need a minimoog.

Posted by Speactra on Jun-07-2006 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Pjotr G
you will need a minimoog.

... and a bloody virus too, that's important!

Posted by BOOsTER on Jun-07-2006 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Speactra
... and a bloody virus too, that's important!

antrax maybe ? viruses are fun

@farris yeeeeeeeeeah!

Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Jun-07-2006 14:51:

Ahh... the madness never stops!

Programming basslines should be an experience akin to Dr. Evilus X-us being locked up inside a 12-achre-square-area chemisry lab. Why in the heck would you want everyone else's recipies?

I can, however, see viable necessity to posting a particular sound, and asking opinions about how it was generated SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ARE OBSERVING THE WAY SOUND IS SCULPTED!

Now that my rant is out of the way... my basslines were the pits when I first started... they still are, but they're not as bad as they were. Keep banging away on ivories, because full-tracks are what helps your endurance as a producer - not bassline-kickdrum loops.

Posted by TazZ-erT on Jun-07-2006 18:55:

Thanks for the advice guys, seems to be just like DJing. practise and then practise more

Posted by TazZ-erT on Jun-07-2006 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
first of all armin does not make his music in reason!

Did you happen to miss the part I said that I didnt really wanna produce like Armin?

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jun-07-2006 21:28:

i think he was joking just to get attention for the topic lol....everyone's taking this far too seriously imo...plus there's already plenty of threads for n00bs to search. but for those noobs who just want to make some psy i have the ultimate vst for you:

http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/75508846.jpg

Posted by Diginerd on Jun-07-2006 22:34:

Hey, at least trance is harder to do than rap..

Posted by JustinMead on Jun-07-2006 22:37:

Its been 4 years for me, and i still suxors

Posted by Synchronicity on Jun-07-2006 23:08:

Sorry but I have to defend Reason here!

Reason rewired into Cubase is great for drums and other samples, especially because it's so reliable and cpu effecient. It's even better if you load drums into an NNXT instead of redrum so you can easily reverse, modulate, filter, tune, adjust the envelope more accurately, load percussion and play percussive rythyms on your keyboard, and enter notes in the piano roll exactly how long you want them.

I like the phaser, scream, and the fact that there are shitloads of refills available for free.

Even without cubase, it's a great sketchpad for getting ideas down quickly as well. A lot of people I know swear by Reason rewired into Cubase.

On the down side, I'm not too keen on the synths (but that's just my opinion) and I would love there to be a lot more stereo outs instead of just one

Posted by TazZ-erT on Jun-08-2006 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
ok if u didnt understand what i mean with that comment:

dont use reason!

Well im only new to this, so im sure in a little time ill move on to new stuff

Posted by Four_On_Four-er on Jun-08-2006 01:37:

Don't dump reason... I've heard plenty of quality stuff come out of it.

If anything, just add to the experience. Reason has rewire, and you can have Reason work with your future equipment.

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jun-08-2006 01:47:

to be honest im not a fan of people telling others what software to use as sequencer...some people are stronger using one app as opposed to another. i mean armin himself uses logic yet i choose cubase because i beleive that my comfort with the software and everything cubase has to offer for my purposes balance well...and i think that's what people need to look for. if after maybe a year or two reason just isnt cutting it, maybe u should move on to something else...or if its everything that you ever wanted, then just run with it and see what happens. i dont think there's any one golden app to create trance and ofcourse there are those who might argue that completely hardware is the way to go (although i personally disagree). just know that there's no one template for anything in the trance business...i can recommend just to trust ur intuition when it comes to this sort of stuff...

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