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Posted by emc^2 on Jun-07-2006 23:14:

FYI: Virus Ti public beta 1.1 is now available.

Thought some of you fellow Ti owners can benefit from this:

http://www.access-music.de/download...=virustidesktop

I've been running with beta for a while now and seems pretty stable...

njoy


Posted by High on PSI on Jun-08-2006 03:31:

I would like to know how it works out for you guys... so post your reviews Ti owners!!

what bugs is it supposed to cover? and how good is this OS over the older one?


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-08-2006 07:41:

Seems like most problems got ironed out, excpet for the arps. Even the remote is functional. I'm getting mine in two weeks


Posted by david-james on Jun-08-2006 13:48:

Id be interested to know how its running for anyone using Logic Pro 7 on a G5?

Ive put off buying one for so long now, but i need one bad!

ill be using it via USB.

thanks in advance.....


Posted by michaelconway on Jun-13-2006 07:09:

Still a Tab bit glitchy, but I havnt restarted it yet. I bought the Polar cuz it looks hawt and seski. but from when it was working it was freaking sweet. real time control over the virus from your DAW.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jun-13-2006 16:47:

I've had it installed for a few days now and haven't experienced any problems. I haven't tested out any of the new features yet though, anyone have a link to documentation on them?


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-13-2006 18:13:

My TI is now completley useless, 1.1 HATES my creative asio drivers =(

I'm not the only one, seems 1.1 has killed a couple of peoples TI. I don't know whether to send back my ti for a new one (access said I should consider my hardware might be faulty..), new soundcard, or downgrade back to 1.9.


Posted by michaelconway on Jun-13-2006 23:30:

Im not sure how good creative sound cards are as far as for recording. I know i use M-audio and its been good to me, I just bout the 192? or 142 er somthing like that. havnt installed it yet but the TI isnt useless, just depends on what you do with it thats all.


Posted by Derivative on Jun-14-2006 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
My TI is now completley useless, 1.1 HATES my creative asio drivers =(

I'm not the only one, seems 1.1 has killed a couple of peoples TI. I don't know whether to send back my ti for a new one (access said I should consider my hardware might be faulty..), new soundcard, or downgrade back to 1.9.


How do you mean? It isnt possible for an OS update to kill your Virus?

Ive switched off my Virus mid OS update. It didnt work afterwards (obviously) but a hard reset and reupdate gets it back on track just fine.


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-14-2006 00:27:

Well it killed the TI part of it.. It still works as long as I dont use the vst plugin. But I had songs going using the plugin, now I can't work on them =(


Posted by Derivative on Jun-14-2006 01:30:

So why dont you reset the OS and go back to the last version that worked?


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-14-2006 01:49:

lol, no version has ever worked.. trying to arrange and seqeucne once you have 3-4 parts going at once means having to press the panic button every couple minutes to stop hanging notes or getting off synch from midi clock. but 1.1 doesn't work for me at all, hanging notes like every couple seconds, and i've had to restart just to get it to work again. I can use the Virus Ti Asio drivers, but then you can only use analogue outs, and everything in cubase goes through your virus outputs.. Going back to 1.9 it is for me I guess till I get a new soundcard.


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jun-14-2006 03:28:

Why not just use the TI as your soundcard?


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-14-2006 05:06:

Cause then you only get audio out the Ti analog outs, and everything goes out the TI outs, even cubase audio.


Posted by Derivative on Jun-14-2006 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
lol, no version has ever worked.. trying to arrange and seqeucne once you have 3-4 parts going at once means having to press the panic button every couple minutes to stop hanging notes or getting off synch from midi clock. but 1.1 doesn't work for me at all, hanging notes like every couple seconds, and i've had to restart just to get it to work again. I can use the Virus Ti Asio drivers, but then you can only use analogue outs, and everything in cubase goes through your virus outputs.. Going back to 1.9 it is for me I guess till I get a new soundcard.


Ummm, I hate to say it again and sound like a crack record but this happens on my Virus B (without the TI feature of course) and is not exclusively a Virus problem.

You can work around it by recording all parts from the Virus through the analogue outs (and not the VST plugin thingy) in a separate project with low CPU and memory load.

Many people, including myself have been doing this for years. I thought from your post that the OS update made your Virus physically not work That would really suck if it wasnt fixable.


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-15-2006 01:38:

What your talking about sounds like your DAW running out of juice when a project gets too complex and midi clock becoming unstable. What im talking about IS a virus (TI) exclusive problem.

With 1.1, using the vst plugin in cubase, I can't play a SINGLE note without it hanging forever untill I press the panic button.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-15-2006 04:31:

try uninstalling ti software from your sytem completely, nuke the vst plug in.. and if you're not too shy and so inclined, clean up registry.

Upgrade and re-install.

not sure if u tried or not, but figure I'd chime in =)


Posted by michaelconway on Jun-15-2006 19:57:

I bought a TI polar, I have been trying to run it with cubase un-successfully. People have been saying that some of this issues are hardware defects and not bugs at all. Would you guys recomend getting the desktop version instead? its messed up because the sound is amazing, Compared to my virus classic... it really is an awsome synth.


Posted by Derivative on Jun-16-2006 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
Cause then you only get audio out the Ti analog outs, and everything goes out the TI outs, even cubase audio.


You have rigged it up incorrectly if its doing that. A synth cannot output audio from any source other than itself unless you are connecting analogue outs on your soundcard and feeding it to the inputs on the synth and telling it to process an external signal. In the case of the Virus you would have connect your soundcard outs to the vocoder on the TI. Even then you have to enable the vocoder for that to work.

If you got nothing plugged into the TI inputs then it cannot possibly playback anything other than the sounds it generates itself and you are fecking up the recording process on the software side.

The only other thing I can think of is that the TI is set to record and playback through cubase's mixer and your audio interface's software mixer at the same time, thereby recording everything else on the same channel in cubase and sometimes resulting in doubled up recordings from the Virus.

The solution to that problem is to disable monitor mixer on your soundcard's software mixer or mute the inputs which the TI is connected to on the soundcard mixer when recording.

If its set up properly theres absolutely no way you can get problems like this via analogue out recording.

It doesnt make any sense for there to be hardware defects with it. Its the same engine using the same code on the same DSP (x2) and using most of the same components as any other Virus. That and I have never even heard of a Virus owner that had an out of the box hardware defect with it.


Posted by sterilis on Jun-16-2006 02:25:

jesus christ you write some posts mate!


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-16-2006 19:23:

I just skimmed your post, no time to read it all now, but remember with VTI you get audio through USB, and when using VTI as master Asio driver (which is what I was refering to in the sentence you quoted) all sound, even cubase audio, goes through the usb into the TI and then can only come out of analogue outs from there.

quote:

It doesnt make any sense for there to be hardware defects with it. Its the same engine using the same code on the same DSP (x2) and using most of the same components as any other Virus.


It's not a hardware defect, it's software, remember the new 1.1 OS update caused all these problems for me, and it only happens when using the vst plugin. For most people 1.1 seems to have improved the vst, but i've seen at least 2 other people who 1.1 seems to have ruined it for them, one of them is also an audigy owner.

quote:
I have never even heard of a Virus owner that had an out of the box hardware defect with it.
You should read the virusti forums then youd be surprised. I've seen quite a number of people complaining about these kind of problems without the usb even plugged in, just using it like a virus D. Mine works flawlessly until I start up Cubase and go into sequencer mode and load up the vst..

Rumor has it they shipped a good ammount with hardware problems at first, and thats why they stopped shipping to retailers for a few months. Access will say this is because they didn't want to sell any more TI's untill 1.1 was out. You decide whats truth. =)



quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
jesus christ you write some posts mate!


Damn straight he does, and be thankfull =)


Posted by michaelconway on Jun-16-2006 21:21:

I just sent my TI polar back for the desktop, after the email I got back from Access. They said 98% people were happy with the update and what my TI was doing was "not normal". So I just sent it in....


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-16-2006 23:15:

I think i'll try that too, first i'm going to try and reinstall the OS though. Man why would you trade the sexy polar for the boring desktop? =D I think I might go for a KC since I only have a 62 keys keyboard..


Posted by michaelconway on Jun-16-2006 23:30:

well my deskspace is limited.. and i already have a radium remote. Plus I dont plan on doing anything live with it. so... save some money and get another syth..!


Posted by Derivative on Jun-17-2006 00:22:

Is it possible to force the VTI to slave midi clock from your DAW?

But what I was trying to say was to ignore VTI altogether for the moment (assuming there is no hardware defect) and record via the analogue outs. Should be problem solved until Access can iron out the bugs in the current OS.

It can take years to get it bug free


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