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Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-16-2006 18:22:

exporting as 320 kbps should give a clear sound like it is before export..?

i`m using nuendo, and when i export a mp3 at 320kbps and 44000 or 48000khz it should give an exceptable sound, but it does not do that over here :-(
It gives a horrible sound, it`s totally degraded.

anyone got a solution for this ?

(i use onboard sound, but it must be able to do better then this, because it did before.)


Posted by sterilis on Jun-16-2006 18:46:

sample?


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-16-2006 18:56:

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this one for example should be near a analog juno sound,
it`s sounds that way before exporting, but after it sounds just like a cheap sound that came free with a pack of butter.


Posted by sterilis on Jun-16-2006 19:01:

have you tried exporting it as a .wav then bringing it into a program such as sound forge or wavelab?

its probably something stupid. check everything before you export make sure nothings turned off.

i dont use nuendo so i cant really elaborate on that.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-16-2006 19:06:

I`ll try


Posted by mysticalninja on Jun-16-2006 19:07:

Turn off mp3 player eq?

I agree with dj_kane, its probably something stupid =).


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-16-2006 19:30:

yeah it must be something stupid :-D


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-16-2006 21:20:

I think it`s something with the asio driver, i can`t select it in
wavelab, because it`s simply not there.
(earlier when starting wavelab got some messages that the asiodrivers could not be loaded)
I`ve downloaded the latest asio driver at asio 4 all but when i select that one in wavelab, i hear nothing.
And when i select it in nuendo(almost the same as sx 3) it functions very well. and now the asio driver which nuendo first used doesn`t work anymore.
that`s not a problem (i think) because the other one works fine.

but still can`t export, or play back the sound the same as it is before export.

the sample sounds very phasy over here.
(not when played in nuendo)


Posted by Derivative on Jun-17-2006 00:36:

I dont think onboard soundcards have an asio driver? At least mine definitely doesnt.

ASIO will have no effect on playback quality. Its just a driver.

I have never used wavelab but check that wavelab's exporter settings are all configured properly. As in, not set to dither the output and set to render to the correct bitrate.

Render the result and import it back into wavelab and compare the 2 sounds. They should be peaking at exactly the same level. If they arent gain one of them up until they are.

The difference should be small and only really noticeable in the upper registers. If its something dramatic, as in totally different sounding, check that you are recording from the right channel.

Sometimes I would record my Virus from directly from a mixer channel and wonder why it sounds different when I'm monitoring it. Turned out a few times that I had effects running on the master bus and recording the virus channels directly, ignored everything on the master and hence made it sound different.

Other than that, I would need to hear the original wave to get a better idea of whats going on.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-17-2006 06:37:



mine does

but i can`t show the original, that`s the whole point

I`ll try some more

it`s a dramatic difference


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-17-2006 07:59:

does it matter some channels go right through the roof ?


i`ll try one with a normal level



it`s a little less phased now, acceptable, but only the fullness of the high tone isn`t that good.


Posted by PutBoy on Jun-17-2006 08:35:

Haven't heard the clip, but I suspect one of these:

1. Bad mixing. Something clipping. Try exporting it as wav and see if it sound the same.

2. Bad encoder. Try exporting it as wav, then decoding it as mp3 with a different encoder (LameENC is probably the best there is).


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-17-2006 09:11:

i`ve downloaded lame enc but i don`t know how to use it.

when i click on the exe file the dos screen opens and closes


Posted by KilldaDJ on Jun-17-2006 10:07:

nowadays even 128kbit sounds like something that came out of my arse


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-17-2006 10:50:

finally got some quality in a song,and now i can`t export it lol


Posted by hey cheggy on Jun-19-2006 17:24:

Is there an option that says something like "include automation & effects" that needs to be selected in the audio mixdown window that comes up when you try to render? Or is it just the mp3s that sound bad, not the wav files?


Posted by Derivative on Jun-19-2006 18:38:

Oh if its phasing then you are recording through 2 internal mixers (so many people do this).

Your soundcard has an internal mixer (usually in the system icon tray on the windows taskbar). Additionally, your DAW will play back from analogue outs through its own internal mixer.

Mute the outputs on your soundcard mixer when recording in your DAW.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-19-2006 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
Is there an option that says something like "include automation & effects" that needs to be selected in the audio mixdown window that comes up when you try to render?


no, only insert options for title and artist name and a few more like that.


quote:

Or is it just the mp3s that sound bad, not the wav files?


both


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-19-2006 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
Oh if its phasing then you are recording through 2 internal mixers (so many people do this).

Your soundcard has an internal mixer (usually in the system icon tray on the windows taskbar). Additionally, your DAW will play back from analogue outs through its own internal mixer.

Mute the outputs on your soundcard mixer when recording in your DAW.


it`s only in a project with superwave trance pro, in other projects the exporting goes well.

it`s pretty high quality, can it be that the onboard sound isn`t able to process this high quality sound (when saving) ?
it definatly can play it, tried all options i get from you guys, but
untill now nothing works.

`ll keep on trying


Posted by hey cheggy on Jun-20-2006 07:54:

So it's only the Superwave sounds that come out sounding crap.

Are you exporting from midi? Try bouncing down all the Superwave channels to audio, turning off any instances of Superwave and export it again.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-20-2006 16:53:

thank you, i`ve frozen the superwave what gives me the wave file, it`s a lot different then when i export. better :P

unbelieveble that such a cheap synth (30$) gives that kind of sound.

here it is how i hear it in nuendo

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if i buy an audiophile 192 will it sound even more better ?



i like it!!!


Posted by thecYrus on Jun-20-2006 18:02:

you could get much better sounds from free synths


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-20-2006 18:17:

show it haha

i`ve got aas ultra analog too, and i think your supersaw preset 2 sounds good, going to try it definitely.


Posted by sterilis on Jun-20-2006 18:23:

i would change that melody its quite annoying.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-20-2006 18:28:

was already planning that


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