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Posted by PutBoy on Jun-18-2006 20:08:

Angry Best track I ever made to the trashes!

Yes. So here I sit, with a fucking nice monster-track. It's also quite releasable, and I mean it. It had all that fucking bass, and that lead that made you want to jump out of you skin.

What's more is, this was my first, yes FIRST, attempt on what I like to call real trance-music.

Then I saved it. Then the computer crashed... DURING THE SAVING TIME!!!!

It SUCKS!

So now I can't open it, the file is completetly, unsavably, corrupt!

I guess I learnt lots in the process of making the tune, so I'm not too angry about it.

here it is anyways, in its wholeness. The last export before the end of the world. Have fun with it.:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2967/project%2085.mp3

Please. Give me some feedback. (I know the shake is annoyingly sharp! Hey, I can't do anything about it.)

Here's an earlier export though, if you don't want the annoying shake. This is probably better anyways:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2967/p...%2085%20old.mp3

(I'm gonna kill someone)

P.S. I thought this was better of in this forum, rather than in the amatuer music producers forum.


Posted by sterilis on Jun-18-2006 20:15:

whats your sequencer? cubase does that to me all the fucking time. i save my work every 5 minutes to be sure.


Posted by PutBoy on Jun-18-2006 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
whats your sequencer?


Fruity Loops ;P. This has never happened to me before though, not even once. Maybe you should try to update though, if it happens so often...


Posted by sterilis on Jun-18-2006 20:17:

update what?


Posted by PutBoy on Jun-18-2006 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
update what?


Cubase.


Posted by sterilis on Jun-18-2006 20:19:

cant afford it. too dear to keep updating cuabse.


Posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- on Jun-18-2006 20:29:

i`ve got this authistic save behaviour, i almost save after every important change, only harddisc failure could make me lose some work.
(it`s almost time to backup again)
i`ll save every changed preset also, even write it down (there are no angel pictures here)
plan to do it also with all the notes i write.

i don`t like technical things realy, because there`s so much which can fail.
but to make it certain to keep your data, i`ll advise to write everything down, even make copies of it when it`s very good.

so in case of computer failure, you can go right back on track.


Posted by DeZmA on Jun-18-2006 21:08:

Shit happens, check if there's no autosave.

About the track:
I like the fx percussion, the other percussion sounds a little too basic if you ask me. Your kick has an annnoying -I've downloaded it from the internet- noise after it, it's clearly audible @ 1.30. I'm not quite a fan of the melody either, but hey that's subjective. I like complexer arrangement.
There are some good elements in there but it's not my kind of music.


Posted by Thois on Jun-18-2006 21:33:

Hmmm I don't know about the releaseablity of this to be quite honest, a lot of random sounds in there I think. With released tracks, there are little random sounds, there has been thought about every little sound in a track.

On the other hand, the track has a lot of energy in it, very uplifting, although the kick is kinda cheap (like DeZma said).

I'm sure your project would be even better if you had been able to finish it. Don't worry, your next track will be great, I'm sure.


Posted by cybernetica on Jun-19-2006 11:54:

Damn, I completely know how you must feel now.

I actually had the same problem a few weeks ago. Spent whole days of work on a new Epic Dark Trance track with lots of layers and stuff. The melody I composed was probably one of the best I ever did.. and then, I chose to add a new layer in z3ta, and then it decided to crash FL. And you know what? I never saved the project!! I always tend to forget that. So all of this track has gone, I cant seem to recreate the melody... I felt like crying ... and it was not the first time FL crashed and I hadnt anything saved.
FL itself with the built-in instruments doesnt crash often, it seems like the problem comes from external (VST/DX)Plugins or some kind of incompatibility.


Posted by LENG on Jun-19-2006 13:01:

hey putboy... i've listened to part of your track.. it's pretty decent i'd say... but there's one thing which you could improve is to reduce the wideness of the whole mix... it sounds to me as if i'm listening to a track which is recorded outside of a club... erm.. melody wise, it's personal preference


Posted by Diginerd on Jun-19-2006 14:16:

Sucks about the loss, but here's a handy hint that applies to ANY saving (I use theis with my Hardware smapler too).

1. Save your song / sequence / samples to FILENAME1

2. Next save do a save as to FILENAME2

next time you save save back as FILENAME1, rinse and repeat between the two files.

That way if something bad happens in a save you at least have a backup.

If your software supports autosaving turn it on and kepp at least 3 or 4 backups every 5 mins.

Not going to help you this time, but going forwards will pull your ass out of the fire is a similar thing happens..


Posted by Freak on Jun-19-2006 14:41:

Switch autosave on while working. You can always turn it off when mixing/recording.


Posted by messytechie on Jun-20-2006 12:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Diginerd
Sucks about the loss, but here's a handy hint that applies to ANY saving (I use theis with my Hardware smapler too).

1. Save your song / sequence / samples to FILENAME1

2. Next save do a save as to FILENAME2

next time you save save back as FILENAME1, rinse and repeat between the two files.

That way if something bad happens in a save you at least have a backup.

If your software supports autosaving turn it on and kepp at least 3 or 4 backups every 5 mins.

Not going to help you this time, but going forwards will pull your ass out of the fire is a similar thing happens..


I just keep going.

FILENAME1
FILENAME2
FILENAME3
FILENAME4
ect.

I end up with about 30. Its good cos you can go back and get stuff u removed earlier if u need to. It also stops you being scared to remove stuff as you know u can go back. I'm cut throat now.....


Posted by richg101 on Jun-20-2006 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
whats your sequencer? cubase does that to me all the fucking time. i save my work every 5 minutes to be sure.


thats bad mate. i love cubase. i have never lost anything on it myself. even when the system crashes from trying to run a 5 minute timstretch while doing some serious work on photoshop on a 200meg image at the same time.. it always allows me to click save and then restart where id just saved.

im usinf 512meg on a celeron 2.6


Posted by substorm on Jun-20-2006 13:38:

Im sorry about your track, i feel for you , it has happend to me sometimes before, when a used to use reason. I thought i would share how i do my savings.

I dont know about cubase, ive never used it before. But i know that when my computer f**ks up (Happens one in a while), i just reboot it, cus Ableton Live got this nice feature, that it recover it self to the latest NOT SAVED history, in other words the "the undo history".

Cubase got that?, But cubase maybe isn�t a realtime sequncer?. I know this "sucks" more power out of your cpu, but it doesnt have to, as long as you make an own patition for Ableton.

Another thing a do, is that i Save my stuff two times, one to my main haed drive, and one two a external backup harddrive. I think this is verry effective, cus i can allways take my material with me and plug it in my laptop if im traveling someware, and its safe.

Cheers
C


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Jun-20-2006 17:23:

fl keeps a backup of your last project i belive so look in trash bin, that goes to say u didnt start a new project maybe u can get wat u had in its final state


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Jun-20-2006 19:46:

Another thing you can try is to rename your project. Sometimes just renaming it will allow the program to open it again.

As for your track:

The key/chord vs. the lead is very diminished sounding, maybe that is the sound you were going for, but just wanted to let you know that it tends to sound *off* to some people, like stuck in a never ending suspense waiting for the key to go either full major or minor.

Also, way too much reverb. Not sure what reverb plug in you are using, but it's quite nasty.


Posted by FrancoR on Jun-20-2006 22:18:

c:\FL\Trash bin\

"When you overwrite a song file, the previous one is not really overwritten, instead it's placed here as a backup, so that in case you made a mistake your project is not lost."

Unfortunatelly i think is too late


Posted by PutBoy on Jun-21-2006 08:05:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Another thing you can try is to rename your project. Sometimes just renaming it will allow the program to open it again.

As for your track:

The key/chord vs. the lead is very diminished sounding, maybe that is the sound you were going for, but just wanted to let you know that it tends to sound *off* to some people, like stuck in a never ending suspense waiting for the key to go either full major or minor.

Also, way too much reverb. Not sure what reverb plug in you are using, but it's quite nasty.


file's totally corrupt. I checked it with a hex-editor, and most of the file consists of null-bytes, so renaming wouldn't help, but thx though.

The music theory I know doesn't allow me to do that on purpose, so it's purely coincidental. ;P I'd have to read up on diminished scales probably...

And I think I was using Classic Reverb for reverb. It is nasty yes ;P I used FL's own Reeverb too, but it's not that nasty.

quote:
Originally posted by DjGeMiNi529
fl keeps a backup of your last project i belive so look in trash bin, that goes to say u didnt start a new project maybe u can get wat u had in its final state


DAMN! It's too late... If I'd only knew that before!

thx anyways though, now I know that for the future ;D



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