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Trance: The Way It's Supposed To Be

I am speaking of course about today�s trance and not trying to resurrect anything from the 90�s and early 00�s. A lot of the tracks I�ve included in the zip file below are from widely known artists whose lesser known tracks I want to revisit and also reflect my taste. When selecting these samples I tried to cover a wide range of trance using a 10 track limit so pardon me if I have missed some major tunes. Overall it is intended to be representative of my idea of the way trance is supposed to be, hence the title.

As hinted above I went back and revisited a couple tracks that truly struck a chord in me big time. These tracks are recent examples of trance that I wish producers would make more of today. To give you an introduction on some of the music in the zip file below I�d like to brief you about the first track called �Turn It Around� by 4 Strings. There was a remix done by Sander Van Doorn under his Sandler alias which packs a lot of emotion into one track, mostly darkness or sadness as if trying to tell a story. Personally its Sander�s best work to date and just one example of what I�m talking about. The second track I want to mention is by 24. 24 isn�t actually an artist, but a television program that�s really big here in the states. Anyways Armin Van Buuren was tapped on the shoulder by FOX networks to do a remix for the main score/theme for the program 24 and the result was this masterpiece released in 2005. The track itself is borderline progressive, but more trance than anything else. Last but not least is �Marrakech (Revolution Mix)� by ATB. Released in 2004 this has got to be one of his rarer productions of what an artist is capable of doing given the right circumstances. The rest I�ll leave up to you guys to delve in.

After listening to those tracks I want to know if you guys share the same vision in trance as I do and if not what are some of your recent tunes that you believe define the way trance should be?

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how trance should be?... personally, I think thats a stupid question. reason being, trance is so massive in size. it varies really. hard trance, melodic, deep, cheese, peakhour. lets remove that question. It brings many elitist thoughts. Ive taken a look at your track selection and i respect that youve taken the time to put something like this together. you obviously have passion, and isnt that what really counts. i can recall pretty much all of those tracks, hell i liked them too. big blank and jones fan, atb as well. sanders work is amazing, i was addicted to his theme for a while. But right now, im really in love with tracks that are coming out. intuition, anjunabeats, anjunadeep, somatic sense. labels along and between those lines are releasing some real beautiful work.

Good selection, Cern - the message i always thought should have been a huge tune

Oh my goodness.

Clowntrance.

So you cut out a dozen or so aimless, idiotic 1+ minute long breakdowns ripped out of bombastic circus anthems, zipped them together and posted them under the guise of "how trance is supposed to be".

Fucking hilarious.

This is akin to Avril Levigne calling her debut album "the way punk is supposed to be." These tracks represent everything that's WRONG with trance today. The trite anthems. The predictable, boring, overly-long breakdowns. The rip-off pads and leads replicated in every track.

Somewhere right now, Simon Berry and Mark Reeder are hurling things at people. They are most likely trying to hit you.

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After listening to those tracks I want to know if you guys share the same vision in trance as I do and if not what are some of your recent tunes that you believe define the way trance should be?

Something like this. Pure, unrelenting trance. No anthems. No breakdowns. No over-the-top, gratuitous melodies. No vocals. No pauses, breaks, or stopping whatsoever.

No bullshit. Just trance.

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Originally posted by Ishkur No bullshit. Just trance.

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF203024-01-02-02.mp3

Yeah, that's the stuff.

I say, (try to) enjoy whats out there right now. Trance is still a very new genre compared to other forms of music. Just listen to some of the songs and think about how simple some of the melodies are, compared to say complicated sounding music like classical.

As long as where alive there will constantly be new artists coming out with tracks which they feel is "the way trance should sound" and this is actually very good, because the more variety, the more people are likely to enjoy it.

Eventually, when its possible to create something exactly the way you want it, not just something that is limited by the technology it is made on, we will see even more variety. Because right now to me, it sounds like trance is limited by the fact that its made with the technology of today. Like if you listen to stuff from early 90's you can tell its a lot less like the music released today, because the technology wasnt there to be able to create anything better.

So in the end, this topic is pointless, because there is no way that trance should sound in particular. TO ME...the people that are constantly saying that trance isnt as good as it used to be, are just saying that because they got used to the trance that was released when they started listening, and now that its changing, and other forms of the music are becoming more popular they dont enjoy it as much as the stuff that got them interested in the first place. While others who arre just getting into it, are enjoying it as if it was the best thing ever, and they may eventually feel the same way about music that will be released in say 5 to 10 years from now.

BTW, I am going to say thank you for the samples you are providing. It is a good way to see what others are interested in. Now I am not saying that I dont like them, but they arent something that I would listen to if I had a choice of other music. To each their own.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Oh my goodness. Clowntrance. So you cut out a dozen or so aimless, idiotic 1+ minute long breakdowns ripped out of bombastic circus anthems, zipped them together and posted them under the guise of "how trance is supposed to be". Fucking hilarious. This is akin to Avril Levigne calling her debut album "the way punk is supposed to be." These tracks represent everything that's WRONG with trance today. The trite anthems. The predictable, boring, overly-long breakdowns. The rip-off pads and leads replicated in every track. Somewhere right now, Simon Berry and Mark Reeder are hurling things at people. They are most likely trying to hit you. Something like this. Pure, unrelenting trance. No anthems. No breakdowns. No over-the-top, gratuitous melodies. No vocals. No pauses, breaks, or stopping whatsoever. No bullshit. Just trance.

Oh my, you really have to realize trance isn�t made exactly just for you (and has not ever been) and stop making a clown of yourself.

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Originally posted by Pudelko So in the end, this topic is pointless, because there is no way that trance should sound in particular. TO ME...the people that are constantly saying that trance isnt as good as it used to be, are just saying that because they got used to the trance that was released when they started listening, and now that its changing, and other forms of the music are becoming more popular they dont enjoy it as much as the stuff that got them interested in the first place. While others who arre just getting into it, are enjoying it as if it was the best thing ever, and they may eventually feel the same way about music that will be released in say 5 to 10 years from now.

I�m so happy you�ve said that. My thoughts exactly.

Plus, as I always say, people are emotionally bound to the tracks and the "type of trance" that got them into it, so it�s really hard for them to find out and accept the world has changed, the music has changed and is changing right now as we are speaking. These emotional ties and memories also make people think "their" trance is the right one and the one and only.

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Originally posted by Pudelko Just listen to some of the songs and think about how simple some of the melodies are, compared to say complicated sounding music like classical.

as if electronic dance music should aim to be melodically complicated?
that statement sounds even more idiotic when you apply it directly to trance (a genre that is supposed to entrance the listeners by being repetative).

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Originally posted by Pudelko ...Because right now to me, it sounds like trance is limited by the fact that its made with the technology of today. Like if you listen to stuff from early 90's you can tell its a lot less like the music released today, because the technology wasnt there to be able to create anything better.

the technology wasnt there to create anything better?

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oh and btw, you're also stifling a lot of the creativity making music gets from obstacles in your utopian predictions.

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Originally posted by Pudelko So in the end, this topic is pointless, because there is no way that trance should sound in particular.

no need for trance to be entrancing, right? completely irrelevant to the genre at large...

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Originally posted by Pudelko TO ME...the people that are constantly saying that trance isnt as good as it used to be, are just saying that because they got used to the trance that was released when they started listening, and now that its changing, and other forms of the music are becoming more popular they dont enjoy it as much as the stuff that got them interested in the first place. While others who arre just getting into it, are enjoying it as if it was the best thing ever, and they may eventually feel the same way about music that will be released in say 5 to 10 years from now.

some of us, you know, the music nerds, the people that actually care about music.. we're not blinded by the first pieces of music we heard.

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Originally posted by paulandrews Oh my, you really have to realize trance isn�t made exactly just for you (and has not ever been) and stop making a clown of yourself.

well yeah, trance is made for the underground... while these supposed 'trance' tunes are made for... well... you guys.

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Originally posted by Psy-T well yeah, trance is made for the underground... while these supposed 'trance' tunes are made for... well... you guys.

and what? does this mean that your vision of trance is better than mine? does this mean underground is better than mainstream? no.

i�m happy i don�t listen to "your" trance, cause i see how arrogant people who like it are.

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Originally posted by Psy-T some of us, you know, the music nerds, the people that actually care about music.. we're not blinded by the first pieces of music we heard.

yeah, you know, you�re so cool.

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Originally posted by paulandrews yeah, you know, you�re so cool.

well duh, nerds are always cool.

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Originally posted by paulandrews and what? does this mean that your vision of trance is better than mine?

yes, it does, since i actually know what trance is and was.

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Originally posted by paulandrews does this mean underground is better than mainstream? no.

i didn't imply it does.

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Originally posted by paulandrews i�m happy i don�t listen to "your" trance, cause i see how arrogant people who like it are.

that statement would make sense if there was such a thing as "my" trance. there isn't.


and i'm an arrogant person regardless of that. knowledge in a particular field does tend to make me arrogant within that field.

on topic now:
the way its supposed to be is producers stop producing cookie butter asot trance or couldharbour basslines trance...
and start producing stuff like moogwai - labrynth part ii, mekka - diamond back, andy ling - fixation, hydra - affinity, lsg - goddess, lsg - risin', lsg - my time is yours, tiesto engineers - suburban train, system f - out of the blue, kamaya painters - far from over, etc...
i mean, music simple and effective, not "omg production skills" but soooo boring...

Can't... stop... laughing...

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Originally posted by Pudelko Eventually, when its possible to create something exactly the way you want it, not just something that is limited by the technology it is made on, we will see even more variety. Because right now to me, it sounds like trance is limited by the fact that its made with the technology of today.

hahahahahahaha!

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Originally posted by Ishkur Pure, unrelenting trance. No anthems. No breakdowns. No over-the-top, gratuitous melodies. No vocals. No pauses, breaks, or stopping whatsoever.

...then Chicago House is your friend.

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Originally posted by Psy-T yes, it does, since i actually know what trance is and was.

lol. and noone knows it better, sure. have you ever, in your blinding arrogance, realized there is music which goes much more back to the roots than yours and which caused the birth of the music you like? according to your theory, the best music should be the prehistorical banging on a hollow skull with a club.

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that statement would make sense if there was such a thing as "my" trance. there isn't.

of course there is. have you ever realized everyone�s taste and musical insight is based on everyone�s experience with the music?

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and i'm an arrogant person regardless of that. knowledge in a particular field does tend to make me arrogant within that field.

good you admit that.

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Originally posted by paulandrews lol. and noone knows it better, sure. have you ever, in your blinding arrogance, realized there is music which goes much more back to the roots than yours and which caused the birth of the music you like? according to your theory, the best music should be the prehistorical banging on a hollow skull with a club.

i didn't say no one knows it better, i said i know it better than you based on your posts here.
and yet again you go with the "your" music statement, if you mean music i produce or spin then yes, of course i realize i can look a lot farther back for the roots, only that they are completely irrelavant to this point in the discussion.
and on again also with the bests and the betters? i never said any music is better than any other music here, so stop reading false meaning into my words.

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Originally posted by paulandrews of course there is. have you ever realized everyone�s taste and musical insight is based on everyone�s experience with the music?

in the context of this thread, i have not claimed any music to be "my" kind of music. unlike you, i've kept as objective as possible.

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Originally posted by Psy-T i have not claimed any music to be "my" kind of music.

Psy-T loves teh acid.

Great set btw.

Oh, and on topic with the thread, I like old trance and I like new "trance". I call new "trance" trance because, well, we haven't thought of another name for it quite yet other than someone facetiously saying "shit".

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Can't... stop... laughing...

My.Mystery, don't take this offensively or anything, I'm asking out of curiosity...
Since you spit on 95% of music here, I'm curious what do you actually like, whether it's trance or not?

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Originally posted by Gauss My.Mystery, don't take this offensively or anything, I'm asking out of curiosity... Since you spit on 95% of music here, I'm curious what do you actually like, whether it's trance or not?

Great, another one of these.

1) I do not "spit on" 95% of music here
2) How is that even relevant to my post or this thread?
3) If you actually looked at my sig you wouldn't need to ask (tip: click on the grey box).

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