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build me a starter dj set

Hey guys, Im kinda new here, but im really interested in getting into dj'ing.

If it's not too much bother, I love some recomendations on EVERYTHING I'd need for a set up.

So, i've been thinking:

-2 x pio cdj800mk2 (?maybe?)
-a decent mixer (which one i have no clue) what do i need?
-and what ever else it takes.
-ive already got some decent cans, sony mdr-7505. And speakers (JBL)

I'm also thinking i dont really want to go with COMPLETELY bottom of the line equipment since upgrading is rather expensive. id rather start with reasonable stuff that will be suitible as i ad to my gear.

also what kind of coin am i looking at for a nice setup?

Thank you soo much in advance.

P.S. try to keep it simple im still a noob!

This thread has been done ohhhh so fucking much. I'm not even going to tell you to search though, since we all know that never accomplishes anything.

cdj800mk2s are good enough if you plan on using the vinyl cueing function/scratching. If you do not plan to scratch or have never used vinyl in your life and wouldn't know the difference between cdj cueing and vinyl cueing, stick to cdj200s.

cdj 200's

better pitch ratio at 0.02% which means more exact beatmatching and whatnot
built-in effects like jet, zip, and wah
$200 less than the 800mk2

cdj 800's

worse pitch ratio at 0.05%
no built-in effects
vinyl mode for cueing and scratching
$200 more than the 200

as for a mixer:

depends on how much money you have left

Allen & Heath Xone 32 = leet
Vestax VMC 180
Pioneer DJM 400
Numark DXM 06/09

should i just search "noob dj set up"

and thank you i really appreciate yours(and anyones) input.

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Originally posted by swingman should i just search "noob dj set up"

nah but things like "starter setup" and stuff of the like might work. Or hell, there's probably another thread similar to this a few pages back

go check out online retail stores...they usually have starter packs with pretty good equipment. if you have a guitar center over there just recently i saw an ad with 2 cdj-200s, djm-400, and the pioneer cans for about 1500 US

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Originally posted by Demoted nah but things like "starter setup" and stuff of the like might work. Or hell, there's probably another thread similar to this a few pages back

y dont you tell me a reasonable price for an mk3.... plz

whats with the flood of noobs lately? apparently more people want to be involved with the music lol...well ok your probably gonna be spending upwards of $1500 for a starter setup (depending on what kind of deals you get and what kind of equipment, plus where you live). are you looking to mix electronic music such as house and trance? or hip-hop or rock or what? different styles call for different equipment. for a starter setup i suggest the following if you would like to mix house or trance:

2x pioneer CDJ-200
1x mixer (this is more complicated because i dont know your style or if you would like multiple channels etc)
1x the headphones you have or pio hdj 1000's.

if you would like to start with vinyl then go for technics (10xx are the standard right??), this is also suitable for scratching if your genre is hip-hop. most hip hop dj's use scratch mixing as their main method of mixing as opposed to the other major mix type of "beat mixing" (which is common for trance/house djs).

i hope this info helps you startup but you need to look through all the stickies and research a lot to learn more and find out what exactly your looking for in your equipment.

the best advice when buying dj equipment is to wait until you have a)earned some more money and b) took the time reading about the stuff your buying and getting to know equipment. That being said, i do commend you for taking the time to at least do some research. However, you are missing some key elements here. First, how many channels do you want (personally i can never see myself using more than 3 at a time). Second, what is your budget. Do you want a mixer with effects? What type of music will you be spinning. All of these factors are crucial in your search for the ideal equipment.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster (10xx are the standard right??)

12xx

Your from calgary eh... Cool.

thanks generic...dont know much about tables since im starting on CDJ's

I was in the exact same boat as you. I wanted equipment that would be above bare bones that would last for years. I got 2 pio cdj-800 mk2s with a pio djm-400. There's more in this setup than I know what to do with, between the advanced features of the cdjs and the extras on the mixer (6 built in, excellent quality, effects plus an in-loop sampler). I am completely satisfied with my setup. I suggest going to agiprodj.com and give them a call for price quotes. They had the best authorized dealer prices bar none.

PM me if you want more specifics.

HOly crap, THank you guys soo much for your info!!!

Ill be mixing electronic music (just say no to hip hop)
going the cdj route.

It sounds like pio cdj200's will do me just fine.

I dont really have a set budget, like if im blown away by something and its worth it, ill spend some extra moeny to get it. That said $1500 sounds about right.

as for how many channels and what kind of mixer, thats where im lost. the pio djm 400 keeps popping up in this forum. Do i want a mixer with effects? i dunno im gonna read up on that


thank you guys SOOOOOO much!!

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Originally posted by swingman HOly crap, THank you guys soo much for your info!!! Ill be mixing electronic music (just say no to hip hop) going the cdj route. It sounds like pio cdj200's will do me just fine. I dont really have a set budget, like if im blown away by something and its worth it, ill spend some extra moeny to get it. That said $1500 sounds about right. as for how many channels and what kind of mixer, thats where im lost. the pio djm 400 keeps popping up in this forum. Do i want a mixer with effects? i dunno im gonna read up on that thank you guys SOOOOOO much!!

alright well cdj200's should be perfect for starting, in fact people actually upgrade from tables or other cdj's to 200 sometimes because their relatively new, tried and true, and loaded with everything an EDM dj would want (so ie no scratching since we're not talkin about hip hop here). in terms of a mixer...the djm400 is GREAT...because everyone knows its great quality wise and durability wise but its also loaded with features such as the effects and in-loop sampling circuit. now this may be a little much to start with (a fellow TA nutsan would tell you its a good idea to master your equipment first before getting more stuff) so...i mean its great if you KNOW at this point your going to want effects but absolutely not necessary especially since your just starting out.
now another thing, the 400 only has 2 channels and no fx-loop (for obvious reasons) so if your looking to hook up your computer to do live sets eventually and more complicated stuff like using samplers, drum machines, effects processors etc etc...your going to want something with more than 2 channels. if you like the idea of the 400's effects what you can do is- i recommend the vestax VMC-180 or PCV-275....they have a built in fx loop which is great cuz once you master all the 101 shit and you feel the need for effects you just buy your peice and hook it right into the effects loop and its all set. on the other hand, you also have an extra channel to connect a computer or something.
now this is not the only way to go about effects units and the like there are other ways of hooking up your stuff even if your stuck with a 2 channel mixer (not necessarily a bad thing, like i said your starting out so you have loads to learn even before thinking about effects). another peice i HIGHLY recommend that im picking up very soon is the vestax VMC-004 mixer..its 4 channels, highly recommended by people, great to start out or even mid-level...very intuitive and fun cue system and its quality. so i dont know...actually i know what its like to start out and be very confused about so much equipment and whatnot so just give me a pm, or contact me if you like or have questions you might not want to ask here.

email: [email protected]
aim:andrewgarcia86

peace bro, good luck

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Originally posted by nchs09 y dont you tell me a reasonable price for an mk3.... plz

$1069

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Originally posted by J:\Digital You're from calgary eh... Cool.

WOOT!! Go Calgary!!!

Sorry about the offtopic.

my way to look at dj equipment...

you only get what you pay for..

so if you but reasonably priced quipment, you are going to get reasonable equipment, just dont go for cheap equipment.

ok so i decided on two Pio cdj 200's and for a mixer i picked up a Numark dxm06, should i have gone for a three channel mixer

SHITS FUN!!!!:

2 channel mixer is fine for starting out. But eventually you might want to experiment a little with loops and other kinds of tricky mixing and you'll long for a 3-channel with a third CDJ.

I'd suggest something similar to what I have -- fairly good gear without having to spend an arm or a leg:

2x cdj200 $700
1x Numark DXM06 mixer: $250
1x Sony MDR-7506: $100

That's right around a grand, USD. Not too bad. And if you really search you can find that stuff for cheaper.

edit: just saw your last message. i think you'll be fine on a 2-chan for a while

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Originally posted by swingman ok so i decided on two Pio cdj 200's and for a mixer i picked up a Numark dxm06, should i have gone for a three channel mixer SHITS FUN!!!!:

That's pretty much the exact same setup I have though you'll probably have different headphones and monitors. But I have 2 cdj 200's and a dxm06. You WON'T be disappointed I can tell you that much. Don't listen to all the anti-numark chatter you hear sometimes; my dxm06 has held up fine since February, no fuck ups. The built-in effects are snazzy on it, the kill switches are handy, the crossfader is smooth, the upfaders are decent, and the sound is rich.

And the 200's, nothing more needs to be said other than they own so hard it hurts sometimes.

2x Pioneer CDJ 200: $ 350 - $399 a piece ($700 - $800 total)
Pioneer DJM 400: $499 - $550
Sony MDR-7506 Headphones: $99

price: about $1,350 + tax. That should do, and maybe then get some monitors like some KRK RP5 ($150 a piece), RP6 ($200 a piece) or RP8($250 a piece). But you don't need those right away. If you have a computer, you can use your computer speakers in the meantime.

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Originally posted by swingman HOly crap, THank you guys soo much for your info!!! Ill be mixing electronic music (just say no to hip hop) going the cdj route. It sounds like pio cdj200's will do me just fine. I dont really have a set budget, like if im blown away by something and its worth it, ill spend some extra moeny to get it. That said $1500 sounds about right. as for how many channels and what kind of mixer, thats where im lost. the pio djm 400 keeps popping up in this forum. Do i want a mixer with effects? i dunno im gonna read up on that thank you guys SOOOOOO much!!

First of all I would have to say that the cdj200s are a great choise but if you are looking to spend 1500 another option would be to get 2 brand new techs mk2 (loved and trusted for 30years) A 4 channel vestax mixer and serato by rane.
You will have a literally endless supply of tunes on your computer but you will also have the ability to buy the ocassional really good record. 2 channels for your lines 2 channels for your vinyl and the best of both worlds ...

ok so heres my complete setup.

decks: 2x Pioneer cdj 200's ($1055 CAD)
Mixer: 1x Numark dxm06 ($320 CAD)
phones: 1x Sony MDR-7505's ($150 CAD)

Monitors: 2x JBL E30's ($320 CAD)
Receiver: 1x Onkyo TX-SR503 ($350 CAD)

For a grand total of $2195.00 CAD

IT SOUNDS FUCKING GREAT!!!

Only one problem, when i bought it all they also had a djm500 used going for $500 (CAD). Should i go and trade in my numark and scoope that deal while its there?? Should i be worried about buying used???

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Originally posted by swingman ok so heres my complete setup. decks: 2x Pioneer cdj 200's ($1055 CAD) Mixer: 1x Numark dxm06 ($320 CAD) phones: 1x Sony MDR-7505's ($150 CAD) Monitors: 2x JBL E30's ($320 CAD) Receiver: 1x Onkyo TX-SR503 ($350 CAD) For a grand total of $2195.00 CAD IT SOUNDS FUCKING GREAT!!! Only one problem, when i bought it all they also had a djm500 used going for $500 (CAD). Should i go and trade in my numark and scoope that deal while its there?? Should i be worried about buying used???

If you can go for the pio it will be a killer deal.
The 500 used to be industry standard and some people say it was better built than their 600 model.
But either way you got a pro setup to start with that will work and sound great!
Congrats!

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