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Posted by blacknoizybox on Jun-25-2006 17:52:

Aaaaggrrr!!! I Hate Cdj-100 !! (((

AAGRR!! I HATE CDJ-100!! YES!!! FUCKING RETARDED CD PLAYER!! I can't mix two fucking songs because there is this fUcking lag on the jogwheel and the fUcking pitch is only fUking 0.1 % which is not fUcking enough. now i've played on the cdj-800 and cdj-1000mk2, and vinyl and i have to say that playing on a cdj-100 is so fUcking hard for me i hate this player i need to kill someone and i hate my numark dm1050 because the faders aren't linear, the EQs either so fUck my todays mixing efforts. i gone for a beer.

sorry...i just felt like exploding all over those damn cdj-100 crap


Posted by Greedy on Jun-25-2006 17:54:

sounds like u need mo practice.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-25-2006 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Greedy
sounds like u need a cdj-200.




FIXED


Posted by nutsan on Jun-25-2006 19:32:

+1 u put is sooo well boomer


Posted by punjabi on Jun-25-2006 20:10:

as I always say, you shouldve saved up more money and not bought shit.


Posted by i got big pants on Jun-25-2006 20:26:

eh... 0.1% pitch aint that bad. the denon's are at the same and i can have tracks beatmatched pretty well without any adjustments


Posted by spdandpwr on Jun-25-2006 20:34:

I hated those things when i first used them...but alas, after a month of complaining about them, i learned to use them...they suck and if you practice on those it becomes much harder to use the higher end models...very wierd...


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-25-2006 20:53:

i can mix fine with the 100's


Posted by Christian �. on Jun-25-2006 21:38:

yeah, practice,practice,practice... The problem isn't your equipment, unfortunately it is your skills


Posted by Graxxx on Jun-25-2006 21:52:

quote:
saved up more money and not bought shit.

im thinking of buying CDJ-200 are those crap?�?�?


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-25-2006 21:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Graxxx
im thinking of buying CDJ-200 are those crap?�?�?



im satisfied with mine. cheap and accurate.


Posted by Graxxx on Jun-25-2006 21:59:

Worm Popper

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
i can mix fine with the 100's


d guate?�?� jaja q onda man... alegre encontrar mara por aqui.... cheeer up!


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-25-2006 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Graxxx
d guate?�?� jaja q onda man... alegre encontrar mara por aqui.... cheeer up!
de la ciudad.. pero no vivo alli.


Posted by on Jun-25-2006 23:03:

Psy DJ's have been spinning with 100's for YEARS, and they seem to do the job quite well...

.1% is quite reasonable to beatmatch with.. just takes practise..


Posted by Graxxx on Jun-25-2006 23:51:

Rasta

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
de la ciudad.. pero no vivo alli.

onde tas viviendo....?�?�?


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-26-2006 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Graxxx
onde tas viviendo....?�?�?
atlanta.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jun-26-2006 00:30:

Try CDJ500s mate.

It aint that hard to mix on the 100s.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jun-26-2006 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
get the 800 or 1000, rest is crap. actualy i think the 800 isnt acurate enough either. would die to have an analog pitch on a cd playar with no resolution. wonder why that is such a hard thing to do?


To be honest for almost all tracks you buy anyways you wont need an analoge pitch since tunes will almost always be at a set bpm. Digital downloads straight from the lables will be at exactly 138bpm the whole way through mixing to another track you often only have to pitch up or down like 1.0 or 1.5%. (I know its not exactly beat matched then, but it will hold in time for well over 1 and half mins, even then the slightest adjustment gets it in time again.)

The point 0.1 only becomes an issue with vinyl rips or tracks not made with a regular tempo, such as tracks made to fit a specific sample or something so they need to be at like 136.57BPM.

Personally spinning on my CDJ500's for about a year, the 0.1 has never obthered me but once or twice, and then I simply ride the pitch up or down 0.1% to snap it right back in time.

Not super hard and it keeps you on your toes. And a damn sight easier than mixing on my vestax pdx2000.


Posted by richg101 on Jun-26-2006 00:44:

im sorry but 0.02 resolution of my cdj200 is only just enough. tried 800's with the 0.05 recently and were great. but i had to correct every 10 seconds so the mix was shit hot. but with cd players you shouldnt have to be playing with the pitch once you got em synched. i wanna be concentrating on the mixer not keeping a non accurate cd player from loosing sync..

i remember when i was good on vinyl mixing i didnt have to touch the pitch or platter during a mix. cos they just stuck once i got the speeds right. the analogue pitch gives you infinate pitch increments. so you can really get the speeds perfect

players with 0.1% increments are not much fun if you want your mixes to be long progressive ones imo.


Posted by hooj1 on Jun-26-2006 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
To be honest for almost all tracks you buy anyways you wont need an analoge pitch since tunes will almost always be at a set bpm. Digital downloads straight from the lables will be at exactly 138bpm the whole way through mixing to another track you often only have to pitch up or down like 1.0 or 1.5%.



not true. what 138 bpm is to lets say Cubase may be 138.01 to Sonar. hence the need for fine pitch adjustments. All software/hardware has a slight amount a of difference in time and drift. were're talking milliseconds. if you want long mixes ie. over two minutes you have a better chance with turntables simply because of the analog pitch.

and this is comming from someone who only plays CDs now


Posted by blacknoizybox on Jun-26-2006 04:29:

hahh
actually these cdj-100s are not mine. they are my friend's, i borrowed em for a few days while he's gone from town i would never ever buy cdj-100 myself. plus i have to say i easily mix on cdj-1000/800 and the jogwheel lag is to obvious, so i don't think it's skills really. its just that playing on the modern cdj-800/1000 differs very much from playing on the stoneage cdj-100.
btw im not buying cdj's anyway. im expecting a pair of Stanton T-120Cs + SSL + trackmaster II sk this/next week so f.u.c.k. 0.1 pitch and etc.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jun-26-2006 11:27:

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
im sorry but 0.02 resolution of my cdj200 is only just enough. tried 800's with the 0.05 recently and were great. but i had to correct every 10 seconds so the mix was shit hot. but with cd players you shouldnt have to be playing with the pitch once you got em synched. i wanna be concentrating on the mixer not keeping a non accurate cd player from loosing sync..

i remember when i was good on vinyl mixing i didnt have to touch the pitch or platter during a mix. cos they just stuck once i got the speeds right. the analogue pitch gives you infinate pitch increments. so you can really get the speeds perfect

players with 0.1% increments are not much fun if you want your mixes to be long progressive ones imo.


Couldn't disagree more. They are fun and they hold mixes tight. God knows why you are having trouble with them. You can hold mixes for 2 mins with these most of the time, as mentioned there are points where you could do with slightly more pitch resolution. But really it shouldn't be needed for every single tune, and correcting tracks in the mix is something djs have done for ever since even the blessed 1210's wont hold mixes in exactly for very long.

For the guy about cubase being 138.01

In all reality who the hell produces at such a weird bpm? Unless its to fit some weird sample or something as I mentioned earlier. But this is for the most part in the very, very small minority of cases.

Analogue pitch is there on TT's to help correct for errors in the pressing, or the actual motor not being totally accurate anyways, 0.0% might be actually 0.2%.

I really do think this whole 0.1% pitch is making a mountain out of a mole hill.


Posted by bamski on Jun-26-2006 11:39:

Not having to correct in a two-minute beatmatch should be a crime.


Posted by hooj1 on Jun-26-2006 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 For the guy about cubase being 138.01

In all reality who the hell produces at such a weird bpm? Unless its to fit some weird sample or something as I mentioned earlier. But this is for the most part in the very, very small minority of cases.



i'm not saying people produce tracks @ 138.01. what i'm saying is each program has slight differences when it comes to bpm. the differences might be small but do make a difference.


Posted by Zild on Jun-26-2006 16:58:

I've loved the CDJ 100s since the first time I used them. If .1 resolution isn't close enough for you practice beatmatching more.


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