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Reason supersaw

I'm trying to make a supersaw using 4 Subtractors. I have gotten basically the sound that I want, but there is a "bip" right at the attack position. I have turned down the resonance filters on all devices and lowered the filter envelopes on all to zero to minimize this sound, but there is still a slight residue.

I have also raised the attack time, which helps somewhat, but I don't want a sound that is too "whhhhaaaa". Does anyone know how to eliminate this "bip"?

nvm got rid of it

kool..was gonna say theres loads of supersaw patches for reason on the forums.

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Originally posted by dj_palm tho it will never get that super realy.

What the hell? Will you stop bashing Reason already?
Don't blame the software just because you suck.

to be honest i heard a synth made in reason by an artist on TA from a recent thread and it was awesome! he said that he ran 3200 AMD CHIP and used a combi with shit loads of fx which made the synth nearly go in the red! wow.

ill try and look for it! im loving reason every moment learning new things, people are to lazy for most of the extent because they dont know how to get passed them restrictions in reason!
doesnt every product have its fall backs?(RQ)

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Originally posted by dj_palm show me some samples mate of a great sounding track made in reason only and ill shout up. but for now ive only heard cool tracks that has super potensial and all but the sound is the same. its the same with fruity too man. its just you being naiv thinkin its a super hot program. i will never stop using it tho beacuse a realy creative program and its realy great build (interface and all) but the sound miss that little extra! damn man u can ask anyone with a little knowledge about this, they will agree! but if u can provide me a good sample ill shout up and ask for the rsn!

It's often forgotten that it is NOT the program that makes the sound, it is the person behind it who's using it to make it sound...

Reason is a good program, as is FL Studio, as is Cubase etc etc. YOU use IT, the program doesn't do anyting by itself.

Ha ha,

Play this majestic supersaw you're on about and then play a JP supersaw. You'll hear the difference

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Originally posted by Synchronicity Ha ha, Play this majestic supersaw you're on about and then play a JP supersaw. You'll hear the difference

Just coz I was bored, I did just that

I played one of the JP's internal arps with it's own internal supersaw and also with a combinator patch I made using 4 subtractor oscillators. If anyone's interested, I can post the results.

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Originally posted by dj_palm oh u dont understand what im talkin about. reason has limitations in its dynamic level no mather how good of a producer you are! thats why its so CPU eficient! i know very good reason is capable of making good tracks if the producer is good, but it will never be the super-clear, open-wide sound like your actualy present in the room that is was made in. just please post me some samples and ill shout up or ill comment on what exaclty im talkin about! btw reason tracks can be better with the magic master-stuff everyones talkin about.

Uh, okay. I think you've just proved you have no idea what you're talking about.
Anyways, here's a supersaw patch I made in Reason using the combinator and the subtractor and malstrom synths. I think it sounds pretty decent. (FYI, I threw this together in 15 minutes)

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]

Looks, it's becoming a silly Reason bashing thread!

Despite emotions the facts are quite simple:

Reason is a wonderful creative tool and sequencer.

However you should NEVER do your final mixing inside of reason. Bounce all your tracks out, and mix them in ProTools/Cubase/Audition.

Because as you might have noticed, dynamic range in Reason is limited.

Don't limit yourself to one application to be creative, usually it takes more than just one-wonder-program to do the job!

Here's what I did the last time I made a track in Reason.

1. Sequence in Reason, use different samples than factory soundbank.
2. Mix in ProTools
3. Mastered in SoundForge

It sounded good to me.





anyway. glad you fixed your super saw problem. can this thread go bye bye now?

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Because as you might have noticed, dynamic range in Reason is limited.

That is not true. It's just an old myth.
It's been proven in the past that Reason doesn't degrade sound quality (by using inverse phase comparison). There's nothing wrong with Reasons overall sound or sound engine. Sure there are some small quirks with synths and effects. But even V-Station (clicking filters) and other popular "quality" VST/VSTis have issues.

Here's an interesting read about this:
http://www.nathorst.net/blog/?p=4

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Originally posted by dj_palm please do

Ok here it is:
http://www.clubdm.com/public/jp8000_vs_combinator.mp3

JP is first, Reason is second. Notable differences, but not necessarily bad ones.

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Originally posted by Eldritch Uh, okay. I think you've just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. Anyways, here's a supersaw patch I made in Reason using the combinator and the subtractor and malstrom synths. I think it sounds pretty decent. (FYI, I threw this together in 15 minutes) [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

wow... this one has really got me! it's clear & powerful... and it's fast too

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Originally posted by Eldritch That is not true. It's just an old myth. It's been proven in the past that Reason doesn't degrade sound quality (by using inverse phase comparison).

K.

I don't like mixing in Reason. I don't like compressors in Reason (including the "MClass" suite.)

And you shouldn't mix in Reason (I'm being VERY opinionated now).

But boy did I love using it back in the day.

/me digs around in his reason project folder.

I'm going to bed.

My penis is bigger than yours
Cubase has a better sound engine than Reason

I see a whole lot of similarity in thoose two sentences.
/care

Let people use whatever they feel is fit for their work and quite the whine already...
Fine, if you don't like it don't use it but don't drag this discussion in here again, we've had it like a gazzilion times already and there's never a winner in it because no one can prove anything anyway...

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Originally posted by Vizay My penis is bigger than yours Cubase has a better sound engine than Reason

Who said my penis was bigger? It's kinda small actually

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Fine, if you don't like it don't use it but don't drag this discussion in here again, we've had it like a gazzilion times already and there's never a winner in it because no one can prove anything anyway...

I never said Reason was a shit-app. It's a wonderful sequencer and a lot of fun. In fact all I used before I started using Nuendo was Reason. And to this day I rewire all sorts of stuff out of Reason.

So yea. Back on topic.

/me loads Reason

Time to make a super saw patch.

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Originally posted by dj_palm i think it sounds pretty good alone but once i add bass and kick it will drown in the mix.

That's what EQ and compression is for.

I'm gonna post my patch again, it's a descent supersaw created with a few malstroms and one subtractor combined together
It's nothing compared to the real JP stuff but on the other hand, no VST has come really close to that warmth either so ^^

mp3 demo: Right click, save as

combinator patch: Right click, save as

I so have to get myself a jp!

no software will ever be able to come close to that sound, never ever!

i think try using a scream 4 and put it as tube or tape with a damage setting of zero or your own taste, and use the 2 knobs p1 p2 i think!

turn p1 up also you dont get a digital sound, it will tame the sound a little and make it more of an anolouge sound.

super saw space organ

Finished my "super saw" type patch for reason. And I am no Reason expert.

It's about an hours worth of tweaking I started at 12:00

Anyway. Here are links:

sample

combinator patch

reason 3 file

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Originally posted by Vizay I'm gonna post my patch again, it's a descent supersaw created with a few malstroms and one subtractor combined together It's nothing compared to the real JP stuff but on the other hand, no VST has come really close to that warmth either so ^^ mp3 demo: Right click, save as combinator patch: Right click, save as

Interesting how you approached it. You just used 3 Malstroms with the sawtooth 16s.

I Used a bunch of Subtractors. I like yours better. Mine came out sounding like an old school saw-ish organ thing.

Hmmm. Now explain something to me. What exactly is the sawtooth 16 in Malstrom. Granted, it's a sawtooth wave, but with 16 peaks in it? So basically You have. 32 saw waves per malstrom, and then a total of 96 waves after you combine your 3 Malstroms.

That's a lot of sawdust. *lame joke*

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Originally posted by dj_palm it sounded more like an organ yeah like the file says. pretty good sound tho. but is it pitching up and down slowly?

Very slowly. You can adjust it with the assigned combinator knobs. Gave it a more... almost moogy feel?

It's interesting.

WABAM! Just my shot at a SUPA SAW from Reason. Enjoi.

MP3 -> http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/musik/sample.mp3

RNS -> http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/musik/sample.rns

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Originally posted by DJSentinel WABAM! Just my shot at a SUPA SAW from Reason. Enjoi. MP3 -> http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/musik/sample.mp3 RNS -> http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/musik/sample.rns

Hey do you mind if i use ur sample?
I like it

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