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Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2006 03:05:

Software for arranging a mix (not mixing live).

Hello everyone! I'm thinking about starting a trance/progressive show on my college's radio station. I do not know how to mix live on the decks and don't have time or money for it right now (perhaps in the future I'll give it a try). So, is there a program with which you can arrange tracks and render them into a mix that sounds as quality as an actual turntable mix?


Posted by mnemonic. on Jun-28-2006 03:18:

i think you're thinking of a program with something like an auto feature, i think.

basically something that will mix tracks together for you?

correct me if im wrong, but ive only taken a glimpse at Traktor DJ Studio, or whatever its called, a few times, doesnt it have a feature that will do it for you? can any one confirm this?


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2006 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
i think you're thinking of a program with something like an auto feature, i think.

basically something that will mix tracks together for you?

correct me if im wrong, but ive only taken a glimpse at Traktor DJ Studio, or whatever its called, a few times, doesnt it have a feature that will do it for you? can any one confirm this?

You can do that in Traktor, but it would just be one trainwreck after another. Traktor won't be able to beatmatch correctly by itself.


Posted by mnemonic. on Jun-28-2006 03:25:

to be honest thats the first time ive heard that, cause like i said, ive only taken a glimpse at traktor a few times, i didnt think it would be able to beat match auto, i figured at most it would just fade out one track completely and then fade in the next one after the previous is copletely, or at least nearly, out, something cheap like that.


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2006 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
i figured at most it would just fade out one track completely and then fade in the next one after the previous is copletely, or at least nearly, out, something cheap like that.

That's why Traktor is out of the question


Posted by spdandpwr on Jun-28-2006 05:26:

first, you can beatmatch perfectly in traktor as i have made some mixes with it a while back...it a bit to figure out but once you've got it then you are golden. Second, acid pro is a perfect solution for your inquiry. I use acid 4.0 and all you do is drop in the track and beatmap it. Once you've beatmapped it then you can position it to wherever you want and then add songs accordingly. This of course takes more time to master than say using traktor but once you learn to use it then you will never hear a trainwreck...


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2006 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
first, you can beatmatch perfectly in traktor as i have made some mixes with it a while back...it a bit to figure out but once you've got it then you are golden. Second, acid pro is a perfect solution for your inquiry. I use acid 4.0 and all you do is drop in the track and beatmap it. Once you've beatmapped it then you can position it to wherever you want and then add songs accordingly. This of course takes more time to master than say using traktor but once you learn to use it then you will never hear a trainwreck...

I've understood the basics of beatmatching in Traktor ages ago, but the soundcard on my laptop in not multichannel . Now the suggestion of Acid Pro sounds pretty good. Let me ask one question though: does acid pro have a BPM counter so that I can match the BPM's of tracks?


Posted by spdandpwr on Jun-28-2006 05:43:

it runs a beatmapper wizard whenever you insert a track..from there you are given the bpm's


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-28-2006 05:58:

Ok, well I'll check out the demo of Acid Pro some time this week.


Posted by BOOsTER on Jun-28-2006 10:29:

I'm wondering why no-one mentioned Mixmeister yet?

that can sometimes do quality mixes...and even a total newbie can do a nice mix with it


Posted by spdandpwr on Jun-28-2006 14:03:

yeah i have heard really good mixes with mixmeister but since i have never used it, i can't really say anything about its ease of use


Posted by Zild on Jun-28-2006 15:54:

It is very easy to do basic mixes like that in Ableton.


Posted by DjWoody on Jun-28-2006 16:02:

Ableton Live! Hands down. It lets you do arrangements and live mixes.


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Jun-29-2006 02:22:

Well, I've messed around in Acid Pro for about 30 minutes now and I can say that this is what I've been looking for. Although I still have not understood how to make fadeouts/fadeins along with several other things, it is just the matter of time now Thanks spdandpwr and others who also suggested other software.


Posted by the_gamemaster on Jul-01-2006 20:22:

atomix has an auto-beatmatching feature that is very good and hardly ever gets it wrong. You can even download it for free from www.atomixmp3.com or off download.com, compared to paying around $150 for ableton or traktor


Posted by dJohn on Jul-02-2006 23:23:

Sorry to jump in, but how do you arrange tracks(non-live) to make a mix in Ableton?


Posted by In-Dust-3 on Jul-04-2006 19:29:

Drunk

Look at VirtualDJ from Atomix.
You can automix all tracks in a playlist beatmatched perfectly( not too bad to listen)
and you can customize the cue point for a track to begin the mix. You can set the fade lenght between tracks.

AND you can do the same with video clip !

it will work with a non multi-channel audio card

of course you can mix by your self!! it's a DJ software


Posted by DjWoody on Jul-04-2006 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
Sorry to jump in, but how do you arrange tracks(non-live) to make a mix in Ableton?


U have to create an Arrangement.

Ableton has a secret little gem many people seem to forget... It's called the HELP MENU. In there you can read the LIVE Manual or use the LESSONS. They're both helpful.


Posted by davemolina on Jul-05-2006 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by dJohn
Sorry to jump in, but how do you arrange tracks(non-live) to make a mix in Ableton?


When you load the tracks you want to play into the arrangement, you'll be able to beatmap them with the warp feature. Once mapped, they will follow the master tempo you set up top.

I would recommend Mixmeister myself.


Posted by l�cid on Jul-06-2006 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
I'm wondering why no-one mentioned Mixmeister yet?

that can sometimes do quality mixes...and even a total newbie can do a nice mix with it

yeah i'd recommend MixMeister too. it automatically beatmatches songs for you (mostly - sometimes you have to play around a bit to get it perfect with certain songs), so as long as you have a basic understanding of phrasing, compatible keys, and EQing, you can make some pretty sick mixes with it.

i've messed around with Traktor and Ableton, but MixMeister was by far the easiest to figure out.


Posted by BOOsTER on Jul-06-2006 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
yeah i'd recommend MixMeister too. it automatically beatmatches songs for you (mostly - sometimes you have to play around a bit to get it perfect with certain songs), so as long as you have a basic understanding of phrasing, compatible keys, and EQing, you can make some pretty sick mixes with it.

i've messed around with Traktor and Ableton, but MixMeister was by far the easiest to figure out.


Hey Myra, thanks for backing me up on this :-)


Posted by Ghost Raver on Jul-06-2006 18:28:

Mixmeister was the first word that came into my mind after reading the first message.


Posted by l�cid on Jul-06-2006 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by BOOsTER
Hey Myra, thanks for backing me up on this :-)




to the thread starter - check this link for a comparison of the different versions of MixMeister:

http://www.mixmeister.com/products_comparison.html

you'll probably want to go with either the Studio or Pro versions, because the Express version is missing some of the more important features... like automatically detecting the key of tracks, changing key without changing tempo, using loops, etc.



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