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Posted by khaele on Jun-29-2006 00:51:

pitch bending

When pitch bending I move the pitch up and down on the incoming track to beatmatch. My question is this: How do you know when to move it up and down? I can match them up for like half a second to a second but I can't keep it nor can I figure out which way to slide it to ease it into a steady pattern for me to mix.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jun-29-2006 01:09:

use your ears...with practice it will become easier...if the beat is fast bend the pitch down, if the beat is slow, bend the pitch upward...because of the tedious nature of beatmixing your tracks wont always be perfectly alligned which is why you need to ADJUST if necessary...i dont know what kind of equipment you use but regardless youll get used to the pitch controls with practice.


Posted by khaele on Jun-29-2006 02:48:

When pitch bending do you just listen to one track in the headphones or both?


Posted by Ygrene on Jun-29-2006 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by khaele
When pitch bending do you just listen to one track in the headphones or both?


You are better off practicing it both ways.


Posted by khaele on Jun-29-2006 03:41:

Cool thanks! When pitch bending is done right wont the beats still be off at times or if its done right should it stay aligned.


Posted by Ygrene on Jun-29-2006 03:46:

quote:
Originally posted by khaele
Cool thanks! When pitch bending is done right wont the beats still be off at times or if its done right should it stay aligned.


To be honest, nothing is ever constant in DJing, in my opinion. There have been times when I'm able to match two records up and they stay matched perfectly, FOREVER it seems, with no need to pitch-bend at all. Other times (most times), I'm constantly riding the pitch throughout the mix - majorly or minorly.

It took me the longest time to concede to the idea that I can't just match up two tunes and mix through a transition without ever touching the pitch. I thought the beats should match up perfectly every time. Once I accepted the fact that it isn't always like that, DJing became ALOT more fun for me.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-29-2006 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
To be honest, nothing is ever constant in DJing, in my opinion. There have been times when I'm able to match two records up and they stay matched perfectly, FOREVER it seems, with no need to pitch-bend at all. Other times (most times), I'm constantly riding the pitch throughout the mix - majorly or minorly.

It took me the longest time to concede to the idea that I can't just match up two tunes and mix through a transition without ever touching the pitch. I thought the beats should match up perfectly every time. Once I accepted the fact that it isn't always like that, DJing became ALOT more fun for me.

Couldnt have said it better myself! Well.......... maybe I could have.


Posted by Fusic on Jun-29-2006 04:15:

As you pitch bend, if the direction you�re going sound better than before, then move the pitch slider that direction. Then make small adjustments with the platter if you�re using CDJ's or actually touch the middle of the vinyl and try to slow the record down.

Don�t think this is something you learn overnight, it takes weeks, month, even years for some people.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-29-2006 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fusic
As you pitch bend, if the direction you�re going sound better than before, then move the pitch slider that direction. Then make small adjustments with the platter if you�re using CDJ's or actually touch the middle of the vinyl and try to slow the record down.

Don�t think this is something you learn overnight, it takes weeks, month, even years for some people.

Yeah there are all sorts of different ways of adjusting the track. With vinyl you brush your finger on the platter to slow it down. Or twist the metal knob in the middle that sticks out from the center of the record to slightly speed it up. You can bump the record with a push of your hand..... lots of ways to adjust. You just need to figure out which ones work best for you and when is the best time to use each technique.


Posted by Fusic on Jun-29-2006 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Yeah there are all sorts of different ways of adjusting the track. With vinyl you brush your finger on the platter to slow it down. Or twist the metal knob in the middle that sticks out from the center of the record to slightly speed it up. You can bump the record with a push of your hand..... lots of ways to adjust. You just need to figure out which ones work best for you and when is the best time to use each technique.


I agree.

But yea, Post any other questions you have on here, someone will answer


Posted by khaele on Jun-29-2006 05:36:

Wow! Thanks, I used Trance.nu for a long time because it looked nicer and I was Niave. But I must admit in the two days I've used TA I've had the best replies to my problems yet. Thanks to all of you in advance this is truly a great community.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jun-29-2006 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by khaele
Wow! Thanks, I used Trance.nu for a long time because it looked nicer and I was Niave. But I must admit in the two days I've used TA I've had the best replies to my problems yet. Thanks to all of you in advance this is truly a great community.

And never forget, even us who are giving you these tips and tricks are still trying to master them ourselves. I've only been mixing since November/December of 05, so that tells ya how much more I have to learn!!!!!!!


Posted by sleepydragon on Jun-29-2006 11:47:

Re: pitch bending

quote:
Originally posted by khaele
I can match them up for like half a second to a second but I can't keep it nor can I figure out which way to slide it to ease it into a steady pattern for me to mix.


there not beatmatch properly then just practice more.
A beatmatched track should stay on beat for alot longer than a second.


Posted by Zild on Jun-29-2006 15:14:

Really you just need to give yourself more time. Try different styles of cueing. One might work better for you than the others.


Posted by simms327 on Jun-29-2006 16:55:

i thought it was called pitch blending, not bending...???


Posted by Dave Nadz on Jul-01-2006 22:25:

Blending is use for mixing ... blending tracks together

[QUOTE]Originally posted by simms327
i thought it was called pitch blending, not bending...???


Posted by harriz on Jul-02-2006 15:06:

Re: pitch bending

quote:
Originally posted by khaele
When pitch bending I move the pitch up and down on the incoming track to beatmatch. My question is this: How do you know when to move it up and down? I can match them up for like half a second to a second but I can't keep it nor can I figure out which way to slide it to ease it into a steady pattern for me to mix.



First of all leave one ear exposed to the speakers and one ear
usually the left on the left headphone.
adjust your volumes so that the two tunes are hitting your left and right ears with the same preasure.
This usually means turning the headphones down pretty low .
Make the 2 tunes a race. start it with the beat on the one and count to eight. If the tune finishes first slow it down slide the pitch down (-).
while you are doing this you are counting the next 8 beats.

If you get lost rewind and start over.
Practice for a couple of hours non stop and you will get it.



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