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Posted by DJ Dinz on Jul-05-2006 18:35:

Trance Fast Mixing?

Hi fellow Trance DJs!

so i belive u guys heard Armin megamix 2005.. 30 tracks in 1 hour
n that was impressive! *of course is Armin mannn!*

so i thinking of mixing trance track... 7 tracks in 10 minute

how did u do that?

before asking... I had experimented it! so im not looking for Tips n so could...

I want to know how others does this?

Thnx ppl!

Cheers,
Altuna


Posted by Unique2701 on Jul-05-2006 18:57:


Posted by DjWoody on Jul-05-2006 19:48:

Armins mix was done on Ableton Live. It was all prearranged, not live.

If you wanna mix 7 tracks in 10 minutes, learn your music good. You're gonna have to get creative when mixing it. It's not too easy, but it's doable. I used to do it back in the hardhouse days in the 90's.


Posted by henryv on Jul-05-2006 22:05:

Like woody said its all done in Ableton.


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-05-2006 22:32:

This sort of thing works really well with techno or D&B, but trance megamixes sound goddamn awful.


Posted by Christian �. on Jul-05-2006 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
trance megamixes sound goddamn awful.

It depends, some are good and some are just crap


Posted by i got big pants on Jul-06-2006 01:04:

i feel like im one of the few people who still like to play the majority of the entire record instead of all this quick mixing...


Posted by ASFSE on Jul-06-2006 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
i feel like im one of the few people who still like to play the majority of the entire record instead of all this quick mixing...


i like to play the majority of the record


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-06-2006 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Christian �.
It depends, some are good and some are just crap


Well I've never heard anything decent.

This sort of music is just meant to be played whole.


Posted by n3lly on Jul-06-2006 01:38:

Ps. If Armin's putting together 30 odd tracks in an hour, you're trying to up that to 42.. Quite a tall feat if you ask me!

I'd try reducing the number, and obviously you're going to be cutting out both intros and outro's.. In my opinion i'd practise on radio edits, that's just one idea.. Again it's difficult as you'll having to nearly role every 'main' part (would you call it the chorus??) of every song together.. Beat matching, well you'll have virtually no time to get them matched up (i need a few seconds still.. Maybe you're good enough to nail it fast enough though..)

I dunno either way good luck with it.

nelly


Posted by Djyoungsta00 on Jul-06-2006 13:13:

that megamix armin did was good but come one who wants to hear only 2mins ov a track and then it changes.

its like you just get into the track and BAM your like wtf NOOOOOOOOO i like that track put it back on NOW lmao


i think megamixes only work on cd compilations not for live events.

the only reason they are used is to kill off sometime THATS IT PERIOD.

i.e Sensation megamix instead of payin out a load more money for another top jock they just make a megamix and watch ppl dance to someone who has just pressed play on the cd player and there aint even a DJ in the booth hahahaha.

plus they do it so the other dj's can prepare themselfs .


there is alot ov skill init tho as in makin a perfect track list.

to do one you really have to sit down and listen to each track individualy to know the tracks in and out like the back ov your hand type of thing.

if there is ppl readin this who has not tried it i suggest give it a go.

its a learnin curve which in fact makes you better at mixin lol.


Posted by SVGmethod on Jul-06-2006 18:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ASFSE
i like to play the majority of the record


i used to do this but got tired of only being able to do about 9 tracks in an hour. I do slightly faster mixing and I can do between 12-14 tracks avg. an hour. Trance/prog songs are damn long. But when I mix house I can fit a ton of tracks in a short period of time.

You cant really do fast mixing with trance. You miss too much of the song. Trance tunes are like stories and if you are doing fast mixing, you going to miss the body and conclusion of the track. As stated before, if you are going to go ahead and do this, you really have to know your tracks and set up the appropriate cue points (mix-in and mix-out). Most of the time it will end up sounding like shit b/c it is a hard thing to do.


Posted by chimchim on Jul-06-2006 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
i feel like im one of the few people who still like to play the majority of the entire record instead of all this quick mixing...

+1


Posted by Gauss on Jul-09-2006 12:40:

Supposedly, Jeff Mills can mix up to 70 tracks in an hour. Go figure.
(Yes, I know that's techno and not trance, but still...)


Posted by Stu Cox on Jul-09-2006 13:35:

It can be done with trance and it does work when done right - but an hour of fast mixing gets boring and annoying, in the same way that an hour of tracks allowed to run right down to the beat and bassline in every mix gets boring.

Vary it a bit and you're onto a winner - but I agree you have to be very careful about what tunes you do very quick mixes with and it usually only works a couple of times in a set.


Posted by i got big pants on Jul-09-2006 19:15:

with that many tracks in a mix...sounds like you'd for the most part just play the breakdown, then straight into another breakdown


Posted by DJ Dinz on Jul-12-2006 17:35:

ok here.. yesterday i done 4 uplifting trance tracks in 10 minutes..

it was a dj competition... and i am qualified

and now i am ask to do 10 tracks in 30 minutes... LOL

mixing trance like this is very stressful! i cant even enjoy the song at all

what do u guys think?


Posted by Clovis on Jul-12-2006 19:19:

I think its a stupid idea that ruins the entire point of good mixing and good tracks.


Posted by Djeebie on Jul-12-2006 19:38:

10 trance tracks in 30 minutes is just silly. That's an average of 3 minutes per song. Most breakdowns last 3 minutes. Hence I stopped listening to trance Mixing like that will not get the job done.

Other music styles (techno, house etc.) are better suited for fast mixing. Trance absolutely isn't.


Posted by punjabi on Jul-12-2006 20:45:

Swell English.


Posted by lightside on Jul-13-2006 23:10:

trance has those long ass break downs man... it'd be like... beats for the mixes the a breakdown... then beats the breakdown... baiscally you'd be mixing breakdowns man


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jul-14-2006 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
Well I've never heard anything decent.

This sort of music is just meant to be played whole.


Plus One!!!


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Jul-14-2006 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
Supposedly, Jeff Mills can mix up to 70 tracks in an hour. Go figure.
(Yes, I know that's techno and not trance, but still...)


That will include like using more than 2 decks ro whatever, mixing 2 tracks into another 2 for example...



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