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Posted by nubblecakes on Jul-07-2006 23:08:

[trance beat] Orion's Peak- Full Release

This is my first thread here at trance addict. I made this song a few weeks ago and discovered this website, so I have decided to release it here, as a full release. Here is a download link for the mp3 file:

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Here Is the preview:

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The song took me forever to make, since it is my first. I hope you guys approve of it, and don't worry of criticising it, as long as it is constructive, or I'll ignore it.

PS: None of the other upload sites would cooperate with me except rapidshare, sorry for any inconveniance. (Feel free to upload it to another site for others conveniance)


Posted by nubblecakes on Jul-08-2006 01:12:

It has been a few hours since I posted the song, please comment atleast once, just let me know if it is a good first song and if you liked it or not.


Posted by Aquarian on Jul-08-2006 04:54:

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Originally posted by nubblecakes
It has been a few hours since I posted the song, please comment atleast once, just let me know if it is a good first song and if you liked it or not.


Be patient. Sometimes you'll have threads sink to the bottom with zero replies, and then after a day or two they pop back up. This forum isn't exactly famous for it's fast replies.

Your download doesn't seem to work at all for me (probably the site). So I'll have to comment based on the sample.

Ok, now this is your first song (hooray and welcome to the world of music production ), which means I'm going to be as honest as I can possibly be, because as you'll find out with time, this is the best kind of criticism you can hope for. Your friends are all gonna tell you how cool you are for making your own music, and you'll find that completely useless.

Don't worry about it taking you forever. I used to spend whole days producing my first tracks - and even with that they sounded awful. Eventually you get so intimate with the tools you use that you'll do everything instinctively, and you won't even be thinking about it anymore. You'll know exactly which knobs to tweak to achieve the effect that you want.

Your first mistake - From the first second I can instantly reconize a fruity drum loop. Someone who's never tweaked with fruity might think it's original, but for the rest of us, it's the mark of a noob. We've all heard that drum loop so many million times that we've grown very irritated with hearing it. There's nothing wrong with loops - but if you're going to use them, try to use loops that are very uncommon or unique, and when that's not an option, try to disguise them and dress them up. For instance, I've used that very same fruity loop in alot of my tracks, but it was never reconizable because it was layered on top of other percussions, toned down and filtered to death. So all it was doing was enhancing what was already there.

Instrument at :15 sounds pretty bad. Very raw, unprocessed and preset-like. The melody it plays is also very simplistic. Try to get familiar with the synths that you use and learn how to tweak them to get more original and better sounds. Also look into processing your elements through some effects. A good delay and reverb can do alot for a lead. But dressing up a bad sound with effects won't make it good. So make sure you start with something good and raw before processing it. You should also look into getting some good VST s to get you started. Some good software instruments to look for: Z3ta+, ReFX Vanguard, Novation V-Station, Crystal (this one's free), ReFX claw (also free, and very easy to use)...

The track sounds very basic and empty. It doesn't work very well for this type of music to have just one instrument carry the whole weight of the melody. It would sound alot better if you had many instruments playing different partitions that interconnect and complete eachother.

There's no secret to music production. It's just tons of practice, the desire to learn, and an endless supply of patience.

Lucky for you, you've saved yourself alot of time by picking a great place to start. Read as much as you can in the producer's forum. Alot of it might look complicated at first, but you'll asimilate it eventually. Listen to other people's tracks in here, and then look at the comments posted below - you can learn alot by looking at what others did right or did wrong. Another tip; this isn't as much of an issue for now since you're still at an early stage, but as you devellop better and more complex sounds, always take breaks. As you produce, your ears become intimate with the sound, and at some point, everything you hear will be disorted. If you work for a couple of hours, take a day or two off, sleep on it. You'll be surprised how different your track sounds after a break. For that same reason, it's also a good idea to compare your tracks side-by-side with a professionally produced track of the same genre. Gives you a better idea of what's wrong with your sound, and what you need to fix.


Posted by nubblecakes on Jul-09-2006 04:54:

Thanks for your criticism. I know that eventually I will get used to fruity, I have used many programs like this. (Macromedia flash, hammer editor [level designer], photoshop cs2, more) The statement you made about it coming instinctively is absolutely correct, that is how I managed to work with these programs. It is a very basic song, and the sample is the whole thing by the way. I did not know that you all have heard this beat before, I wouldn't have released it if I had known. Im going to start a new song soon, I'm currently held up by other work, mainly level design for half life 2, that is some hard work. You may post anything you wish here, calling me a noob is ok, as I pretty much am one in music making.



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