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Posted by arek on Jul-11-2006 15:56:

Mushroom drug creates mystical experience

People who took an illegal drug made from mushrooms reported profound mystical experiences that led to behaviour changes lasting for weeks � all part of an experiment that recalls the psychedelic '60s.

Many of the 36 volunteers rated their reaction to a single dose of the drug, called psilocybin, as one of the most meaningful or spiritually significant experiences of their lives. Some compared it to the birth of a child or the death of a parent.

Such comments "just seemed unbelievable," said Roland Griffiths of the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, the study's lead author.

But don't try this at home, he warned. "Absolutely don't."

Almost a third of the research participants found the drug experience frightening even in the very controlled setting. That suggests people experimenting with the illicit drug on their own could be harmed, Griffiths said.

Viewed by some as a landmark, the study is one of the few rigorous looks in the past 40 years at a hallucinogen's effects. The researchers suggest the drug someday may help drug addicts kick their habit or aid terminally ill patients struggling with anxiety and depression.

Beneficial behaviour changes

It may also provide a way to study what happens in the brain during intense spiritual experiences, the scientists said.

Funded in part by the U.S. government, the research was published online Tuesday by the journal Psychopharmacology.

Psilocybin has been used for centuries in religious practices and its ability to produce a mystical experience is no surprise. But the new work demonstrates it more clearly than before, Griffiths said.

Even two months after taking the drug, pronounced SILL-oh-SY-bin, most volunteers said the experience had changed them in beneficial ways, such as making them more compassionate, loving, optimistic and patient. Family members and friends said they noticed a difference, too.

Charles Schuster, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral neuroscience at Wayne State University and a former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, called the work a landmark.

"I believe this is one of the most rigorously well-controlled studies ever done" to evaluate psilocybin or similar substances for their potential to increase self-awareness and a sense of spirituality, he said. He did not participate in the research.

Psilocybin, like LSD or mescaline, is one of a class of drugs called hallucinogens or psychedelics. While they have been studied by scientists in the past, research was largely shut down after widespread recreational abuse of the drugs during the 1960s, Griffiths said. Some work resumed in the 1990s.

"We've lost 40 years of (potential) research experience with this whole class of compounds," he said. Now, with modern-day scientific methods, "I think it's time to pick up this research field."

Inward focus

The study volunteers had an average age of 46, had never used hallucinogens and participated to some degree in religious or spiritual activities like prayer, meditation, discussion groups or religious services.

Each tried psilocybin during one visit to the lab and the stimulant methylphenidate (better known as Ritalin) on one or two other visits. Only six of the volunteers knew when they were getting psilocybin.

Each visit lasted eight hours. The volunteers lay on a couch in a living-room-like setting, wearing an eye mask and listening to classical music. They were encouraged to focus their attention inward.

Psilocybin's effects lasted for up to six hours, Griffiths said. Twenty-two of the 36 volunteers reported having a "complete" mystical experience, compared to four of those getting methylphenidate.

That experience included such things as a sense of pure awareness and a merging with ultimate reality, a transcendence of time and space, a feeling of sacredness or awe, and deeply felt positive mood like joy, peace and love. People say "they can't possibly put it into words," Griffiths said.

Two months later, 24 of the participants filled out a questionnaire. Two-thirds called their reaction to psilocybin one of the five top most meaningful experiences of their lives. On another measure, one-third called it the most spiritually significant experience of their lives, with another 40 per cent ranking it in the top five.

About 80 per cent said that because of the psilocybin experience, they still had a sense of well-being or life satisfaction that was raised either "moderately" or "very much."


http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/nat...sychedelic.html


Posted by bossi on Jul-11-2006 16:05:

cool, where can i get some this ish


Posted by Time2Burn on Jul-11-2006 16:12:

What exactly did this "study" prove?

Sounds to me like these guys are a few thousand years behind with their findings.


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-11-2006 16:19:

Re: Mushroom drug creates mystical experience

quote:
Originally posted by arek
Each visit lasted eight hours. The volunteers lay on a couch in a living-room-like setting, wearing an eye mask and listening to classical music. They were encouraged to focus their attention inward.


If someone fed me mushrooms, and had me lay on a couch for eight hours wearing a blindfold and listening to Beethoven, I would likely commit murder, several times.

What happened to an old fashioned hike, or watching Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Couch laying!? For fucks sake no wonder it was a bad trip.


Posted by PressPLay on Jul-11-2006 16:20:

Deja vu...didn't I just read this on the TRIBE forum 5 minutes ago?


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-11-2006 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PressPLay
Deja vu...didn't I just read this on the TRIBE forum 5 minutes ago?


yes.


Posted by daves on Jul-11-2006 16:36:



"Psilocybin, like LSD or mescaline, is one of a class of drugs called hallucinogens or psychedelics."

"more at 11!"

(welcome to... how many years ago?)


Posted by riskytrader on Jul-11-2006 17:13:

A girlfriend of mine was telling me last weekend a few of her guy friends were sitting around having some shrooms and drinks. An hour or so into it one of the guy does an exorcist move with his head...like 180 degrees only really fast, body jerks forward hitting a glass table and jerks right back and passes out. They were totally freaking out and then one of his buddies passes out a minute later. My friend is freaking out calling 911...needless to say their night was ruined as they were stuck in the hospital until 5 that night.

Must have been a bad patch. I dunno...i just plain wouldn't ingest anything that smells like crap no matter what the spiritual experience.

Go meditate or attend church services! jeez..


Posted by Abercrombie on Jul-11-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by daves


"Psilocybin, like LSD or mescaline, is one of a class of drugs called hallucinogens or psychedelics."

"more at 11!"

(welcome to... how many years ago?)




Like, whoa...


(not sure if everyone knows of Ric Romero here, daves)


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-11-2006 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie


Like, whoa...


(not sure if everyone knows of Ric Romero here, daves)



Posted by chikaladka on Jul-11-2006 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by riskytrader
i just plain wouldn't ingest anything that smells like crap no matter what the spiritual experience.




you should try salvia then..


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jul-11-2006 17:54:



Anyone wanna go with me?


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-11-2006 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*


Anyone wanna go with me?


i'm there.

dance-off on shroomz.... you are so done..... i'll team up with fred penner, and you can have casey and finnegin.....


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Jul-11-2006 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
i'm there.

dance-off on shroomz.... you are so done..... i'll team up with fred penner, and you can have casey and finnegin.....


I'll treat, since I couldn't make it out for your birthday.

Dance off on shroomz though? Take Casey and Finnegin...I can take all 4 of you!!


Posted by Abercrombie on Jul-11-2006 18:08:

I'll take Miss Fran.


and Mr. Dubie.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jul-11-2006 18:12:

Lick tha toad!
Lick tha toad!!



Woah....


Posted by zokissima on Jul-11-2006 18:22:

Re: Re: Mushroom drug creates mystical experience

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
If someone fed me mushrooms, and had me lay on a couch for eight hours wearing a blindfold and listening to Beethoven, I would likely commit murder, several times.

What happened to an old fashioned hike, or watching Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Couch laying!? For fucks sake no wonder it was a bad trip.

A trip like that can only be bad if you make it into one yourself. IMO if you were of a stable, creative, thinking mind, able with some degree of success to analyze your own thoughts, it could be the most profound experience of your life. I've had some downright scary and messed experiences with this drug, and there were two, and in particular one trip that I could NEVER explain in words. It was a time that I and another, my partner, transcended existence from this dimension, and existed on a whole new level, as one unified being. It may sound very silly, and hippy-ish, but again, its not something I can put into words. I do think that it was one of the most spectacular experiences I've ever had, and it has changed me, and will be something I remember for the rest of my life. Even thinking about it now, almost a year after, conjures the same emotions and observations I had then.

EDIT: I think it only fair to add this last bit. I would not recommend taking mushrooms if you're looking for a spiritual experience. Take it with no reservations or expectations. I've had just ONE experience of the kind, and afterwards, through various other NON-drug-enduced methods, mainly just reading and thinking, have been able to take a further step from that experience..
Just my 0.02



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