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Do you think djing is a skill or a talent?
do you consider djing to be a talent or a skill?meaning like a singer they either have a voice or they don't, no matter how much you try if you don't have the talent it will never come, or do you consider it a skill that can be learned if you try hard enough?...my friend has been spining for 6 years and no matter how much he trys he still can't get it right..but yet I have seen people who can pick it up like nothing in a matter of months..
well first i must commend you on a good thread topic 
second, i think its both a skill and talent. you can be skilled at scratching and beatmatching but you need the talent for crowd reading and creating a flow and so forth. Only talented people are good at reading crowds and so forth. Also talented dj's are the ones that, even if they can't do fancy scratches and stuff, can get people to have fun and cheer for their favorite song. I guess then djing can be considered more of a talent however you need basic skill in order to be a better dj.
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| Originally posted by spdandpwr well first i must commend you on a good thread topic second, i think its both a skill and talent. you can be skilled at scratching and beatmatching but you need the talent for crowd reading and creating a flow and so forth. Only talented people are good at reading crowds and so forth. Also talented dj's are the ones that, even if they can't do fancy scratches and stuff, can get people to have fun and cheer for their favorite song. I guess then djing can be considered more of a talent however you need basic skill in order to be a better dj. |
I agree it's a combo of both. I've picked up the basics of beatmatching and mixing in less than a month, but it's gonna take a lot more time to hone my skills to be considered "above average". 
just like sales, not something you can teach.
i also thing its a skill AND talent. some people just dont have what it takes. no matter how hard and how long they practice they just cant beatmatch or what not. talent = reading the crowd, creating your own style, track selection, etc etc. not everyone can or has what it takes to be a dj.
Any artistic form of expression be it painting to sculpture to ... I don't know .. djing is:
90% muscle
10% talent
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| Originally posted by jdat Any artistic form of expression be it painting to sculpture to ... I don't know .. djing is: 90% muscle 10% talent |
djing - a gift from above 
60% Talent
40% Skill
I know a guy whose been mixing for 7 years and still can't do it properly.
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| Originally posted by jahnlay 60% Talent 40% Skill I know a guy whose been mixing for 7 years and still can't do it properly. |
Hmmm, interesting question but it�s not a complete question.
The way I see it is this� Your skill level is totally dependant on your level of natural talent. You can teach most people to beat match to a certain level, but then what decides the level they achieve is totally dependant on how naturally talented they are in terms of understanding the techniques and also musical ability, something that falls into it�s own.
Reading the crowd is something that you will pick up over time but again the level you take it to relies on your natural understanding of people.
How successful you are as a DJ depends completely on two things. Your charisma, you either have it or you don�t. Simple.
Second thing is your ability to produce tracks. In this day and age you are most likely not going to succeed unless you have quality releases to your name. Something that is a completely different level of talent, but it�s also fair to say that a lot of famous producers seriously lack in personality and charisma so the job kind of only gets half done.
Confidence is needed and this really only comes with the realisation of your own skills and the belief in yourself that you get from your success either as a bedroom DJ or club DJ.
To put it another way, I had worked how to beat match long before I ever touched a set of decks and this is back when DJing as we know it was in its infancy. Sure I didn�t get it 100% when I first tried it but the principles were there before I started so I had already started thinking about how the music was working. Now I admit that I am not the most talented DJ out there by a long shot but this solid base (you might call it talent) helped me realise my capabilities, get recognised and get work and put me in a position where I was able to live off this for a good many years.
In this day and age there are so many factors that decide success, and skill/talent are just a minor part of that.
Cheers
Nem
DJing is a talent and a skill. The talent comes from being able to put together good and creative sets and read crowds and picking out the great tunes, and even making your own productions or remixes. The skill comes in with beatmatching and phrasing and being creative with your mixes, even adding effects and loops and such. The skill comes with practice, the talent comes from experience and your personality. Someone can be a really skilled DJ, know how to beatmatch and all, but they might not have the talent to put together an enjoyable set, be able to interact with the audience and read the crowd and they might play shit tunes...so thats the way I see it.
I think it takes someone with a musical talent to make a good dj. Ive always been into music and can pick things up pretty easily so when I started djing it came to me pretty quickly. But, like many things, you can overcome a lack of talent with a lot of skill, meaning lots and lots of practice. So someone who doesnt necessarily pick it up right away can make up for it by practicing their ass off.
So basically, its both. For someone who has the talent to dj, they can learn the skills much easier than someone without it.
Neither really. It is just something I do to pass time.
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| Originally posted by Zild Neither really. It is just something I do to pass time. |
Now raising a kid who doesn't fucking talk at the movies that is a skill and a talent.
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| Originally posted by Zild Now raising a kid who doesn't fucking talk at the movies that is a skill and a talent. |
that guy looks exactly like the guy in you avatar
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| Originally posted by Floorwhore |
depends what you define DJing as.
beatmatching: ANYONE can learn. well, at least most people. it's all about practice.
sequencing: takes talent, really. but still, with experience and playing out, you can eventually feel your way thru.
harmonic mixing: this is something that is not exactly a skill, as for instance, a person who is tonedeaf will never be able to do it, no matter how much they practice. sure, you can use things to key your records, in which case yeah, you can still do it, but nothing like a DJ who can pick something that will flow harmonically on the fly.
talent can play a part in any of those aspects, if you have a talent for any of it, you may develop the skill at a much faster rate than someone who did not have such talent. ive seen guys get a very nice feel for beatmatching in a matter of weeks.
it also really depends on what you call a good DJ. someone who plays for the crowd, whatever it may be they want? someone who plays for themself, and fuck everything else? a nice balance? someone who plays for you? (hehe, i love those DJs, who no matter what the crowd is saying about them, i feel the set was specially dedicated to me, and i heard every beat, every style i wanted to hear, when i wanted to hear it)
at the end of the day, unless you're blatantly copying off someone else, the only thing nobody can teach you is style. your own feel, your own flow. your own taste in records. i dont know if that classifies as a talent, as it really is a matter of opinions, but whatever it is, thats what makes a DJ in my book.
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