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Ok, I'm not sure if this was already discussed in one of the many WC threads, but I'm wondering as to the opinions of the members of NYTA as many of us enjoy soccer almost as much as dance music (you know, EDM and futbol go together quite well). I've been privy to watch many debates as to whether or not the latest WC outcomes were deserved or not, and have heard a great deal of disturbing facts. And so the below long post is an example of my reaching out and wondering what the group of you think as to the future of the game --- please read as much as you can...

I can't seem to find any information on this online, but a freind of mine just told me that the Italian player who was hit by Zidane at that game was saying negative things about Zidane's wife and mother... now, I by no means condone what Zidane did (though it was an interesting way to end your WC...), but don't you guys think that this is a bit uncool? I have my own opinions on the outcome of the WC and on Zidane's conduct, but I'd rather not discuss them here (I actually think that the ref. acted in opposition to FIFA rules by giving him the card), but I'm wondering what you think about where the future of futbol is going, especially when such unfortunate situations as Zidane's conduct and, earlier, Rooney's conduct. Unpleasantness has always been an issue, though often it stayed in the stands and did not touch the pitch until after the game was over --- but as of late it seems that international play (I'm also talking about recent freindlies) is becoming more and more confrontational as personal conflicts are taking the feild.

This even stretches into the realm of coaching and administration, with intra-team conflicts keeping some of the world's best players (Jerzy Dudek and Rude van Nistelrooy are the most stunning examples) off of the feild. That, coupled with the number of cards and bad calls during this cup (and the ridiculousness of the 2002 one) makes it seem like the game has almost soured. I'm just wondering what you guys think --- what has happened to the 'beautiful game'?

Zidane now claims Materazzi repeatedly ripped on his mother, who is ill, and his sister - Zidane interview story

I think people are really blowing this out of proportion. There are always ugly incidents in every sporting event. The thing is that now, the media creates a circus surrounding it.

As for the cards, that's FIFA and the refs faults. I really don't think that the players were playing more violently and committing more fouls, but FIFA wanted the refs to bring down the hammer with the cards and as a result ruined the tournament. When you already have record numbers of both yellow and red cards with 10 games still left in the tournament, something's wrong.

need i say more?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzW5gHI-B_M

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Originally posted by kid nyce need i say more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzW5gHI-B_M

To be honest, diving has always been a part of the game, though. Maybe it's gotten worse, but once the ball gets rolling with the incessant replays and the internet footage that's constantly available, it definitely makes it look worse. I forsee FIFA having to bring in some sort of video system, just because the people who watch the games have it. When bad calls are made or dives occur, we all know it now, and that undermines what people think of the outcome.

^^when i look at that, i only wonder to myself how much of a pussy is materazzi?


i mean cmon, you're insulting the guy, you're facing him, and yea ok, maybe you make him look like the fool for headbutting you...but flip that around a second...what kind of tool lets someone headbut them in the chest, then flops on the floor like he got crushed, just to draw a red in 2nd OT of the WC. It's like I'm gonna provoke you to fuck up so you end up losing and we end up winning...kinda pussy way to win don't you think?

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Originally posted by kid nyce ^^when i look at that, i only wonder to myself how much of a pussy is materazzi? i mean cmon, you're insulting the guy, you're facing him, and yea ok, maybe you make him look like the fool for headbutting you...but flip that around a second...what kind of tool lets someone headbut them in the chest, then flops on the floor like he got crushed, just to draw a red in 2nd OT of the WC. It's like I'm gonna provoke you to fuck up so you end up losing and we end up winning...kinda pussy way to win don't you think?

well put sir, BTW anybody know where i can find a Zidane Jersey???

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN well put sir, BTW anybody know where i can find a Zidane Jersey???

www.nikys-sports.com - $40 real madrid zidane jersey from the 2004-05 season

https://www.nikys-sports.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=30&idproduct=488

www.footballfab.com - really good deals here for the jerseys

i find collecting soccer jerseys a very expensive hobby

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Originally posted by DJ A.K Ok, I'm not sure if this was already discussed in one of the many WC threads, but I'm wondering as to the opinions of the members of NYTA as many of us enjoy soccer almost as much as dance music (you know, EDM and futbol go together quite well). I've been privy to watch many debates as to whether or not the latest WC outcomes were deserved or not, and have heard a great deal of disturbing facts. And so the below long post is an example of my reaching out and wondering what the group of you think as to the future of the game --- please read as much as you can... I can't seem to find any information on this online, but a freind of mine just told me that the Italian player who was hit by Zidane at that game was saying negative things about Zidane's wife and mother... now, I by no means condone what Zidane did (though it was an interesting way to end your WC...), but don't you guys think that this is a bit uncool? I have my own opinions on the outcome of the WC and on Zidane's conduct, but I'd rather not discuss them here (I actually think that the ref. acted in opposition to FIFA rules by giving him the card), but I'm wondering what you think about where the future of futbol is going, especially when such unfortunate situations as Zidane's conduct and, earlier, Rooney's conduct. Unpleasantness has always been an issue, though often it stayed in the stands and did not touch the pitch until after the game was over --- but as of late it seems that international play (I'm also talking about recent freindlies) is becoming more and more confrontational as personal conflicts are taking the feild. This even stretches into the realm of coaching and administration, with intra-team conflicts keeping some of the world's best players (Jerzy Dudek and Rude van Nistelrooy are the most stunning examples) off of the feild. That, coupled with the number of cards and bad calls during this cup (and the ridiculousness of the 2002 one) makes it seem like the game has almost soured. I'm just wondering what you guys think --- what has happened to the 'beautiful game'?

do you play soccer?

I have played my entire life, 4 years in college, been to South America, Europe, and I can say that this is nothing new. That happened to be the World Cup Final (the most watched single sporting event in the world) and Zidane headbutted some guy and got sent off. This is nothing new at all. So the Italian player insulted his mother? I have heard much worse things than that in my college games. Is it Uncool? sure. Its a fucking battle out there though man. They were playing for the utlimate prize in soccer, Zidane was tired and frustrated, and his adrenaline was pumping. But lets not get caried away. The "beautiful game of soccer" isn't heading for it's apocalypse quite yet.

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Originally posted by verndogs www.nikys-sports.com - $40 real madrid zidane jersey from the 2004-05 season https://www.nikys-sports.com/produc...0&idproduct=488 www.footballfab.com - really good deals here for the jerseys i find collecting soccer jerseys a very expensive hobby

nice, yeah i've been looking for the 06 world cup white jersey

no matter what someone says in a game that shit wouldnt affect my mental at all.. i'd just wait til the game is over and fuck that nigga up. plain and simple. no need to get heated during the game.

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN nice, yeah i've been looking for the 06 world cup white jersey

try the adidas store on houston

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Originally posted by trunks1022 try the adidas store on houston

yeah i was thinking that

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Originally posted by kid nyce need i say more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzW5gHI-B_M

I don't say this often, but - ROFL

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i mean cmon, you're insulting the guy, you're facing him, and yea ok, maybe you make him look like the fool for headbutting you...but flip that around a second...what kind of tool lets someone headbut them in the chest, then flops on the floor like he got crushed, just to draw a red in 2nd OT of the WC. It's like I'm gonna provoke you to fuck up so you end up losing and we end up winning...kinda pussy way to win don't you think?

I also agree with that. Moreover, it seemed to me like many of Italy's victories during this cup were strangely undeserved (I'm principally speaking about the Italy-Australia game). As such, I find it hard to support them in the final, where, yet again, it seemed like an unfair conclusion (for whatever reason).

As far as what Zizack said, I don't play soccer --- but I'm aware that shit like that has always been happening. I participated in the supposedly tame sports of Track & CC --- you'd be suprised what happens on wooded paths in the middle of 5k races. But you really should expect more on a professional level. That aside, I still think that all of the factors that I discussed all contribute to a rather negative trend in the world of futbol. It's not 'doom' that I'm talking about, it's a simple downgrading of standards. Even Beckenbauer claimed that today's soccer is played far more negatively with a great deal more diving and selfish play.

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN nice, yeah i've been looking for the 06 world cup white jersey

that jersey definitely is my favorite jersey in terms of style. I like how the french colors come out on the front


I still wouldn't buy the jersey

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Originally posted by Miss Bliss I don't say this often, but - ROFL

RIGHT penobile

The guy played dirty, The Italian got under his skin, than the red card was issued, than The French losst because The Captain cost them,I hate stereo-types, but typical French, always playing dirt, travel across Europe and thats all you here, world reknown reputation. The Italians always take fake dives, I know but the French deserved to lose because of Stupidity

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Originally posted by DJ A.K I also agree with that. Moreover, it seemed to me like many of Italy's victories during this cup were strangely undeserved (I'm principally speaking about the Italy-Australia game).

The previous World Cup Italy was screwed out of the title so I'd say it all balances out.

Listen to this man below!

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Originally posted by zizack do you play soccer? I have played my entire life, 4 years in college, been to South America, Europe, and I can say that this is nothing new. That happened to be the World Cup Final (the most watched single sporting event in the world) and Zidane headbutted some guy and got sent off. This is nothing new at all. So the Italian player insulted his mother? I have heard much worse things than that in my college games. Is it Uncool? sure. Its a fucking battle out there though man. They were playing for the utlimate prize in soccer, Zidane was tired and frustrated, and his adrenaline was pumping. But lets not get caried away. The "beautiful game of soccer" isn't heading for it's apocalypse quite yet.

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Originally posted by southbound24 The guy played dirty, The Italian got under his skin, than the red card was issued, than The French losst because The Captain cost them,I hate stereo-types, but typical French, always playing dirt, travel across Europe and thats all you here, world reknown reputation. The Italians always take fake dives, I know but the French deserved to lose because of Stupidity

what stupidity do you speak of...??? ok sure he could've waited after the game but first off for a french algerian guy like zidane to have to hear somethin about his mother and sister is not somethin that community takes lightly which is why he snapped, and he's not even the type to do things like this, but neway we played very well, dominating second half of that game and we sure as hell dont play dirty as far as im concerned italians are good i'll give u that but,they are also a great bunch of actors and are well known for divin.

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Originally posted by verndogs that jersey definitely is my favorite jersey in terms of style. I like how the french colors come out on the front

hopefully i'll find it in france next week

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