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Can mixing 50 cent and Eminem work like mixing Tiesto and Corsten?

my homie G and i were talking about the leaps and bounds in mixing music. Now, he is into hip hop and I am into trance. He is into turntables and I am into software. So he gave me this mix Dj Mouse The Grey Album and I was like "its cool." I'd heard about it and I thought it was cool when i was listening to it.
So i tell him, hey, what if I could make a rap mix based on the rules of trance.
I figure, u get the instrumental and the acapellas of rap songs, make a into, outro, put a "heeeeeeey" "yeeeeeeeeah" "ooooook" every few minutes and u just invented TRap mixtapes.
would it make me some chedda?

fo sho ma negro.

It'd probably sound like cheddar...

Are you asking if it's possible record a set with a continuous flow of rap music?

If that's what you're asking, then you should hear some competent hip-hop DJs - it's quite nice to listen to some of them As a matter of fact, if you know how to work with the music, you can do that with theorically every genre.

There's already tons of compilations that do that. You can buy remix comps with extended versions. They sound dope!

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Originally posted by DjWoody There's already tons of compilations that do that. You can buy remix comps with extended versions. They sound dope!

word up. remixes are the shiznit, ya

I give it up to those hip hop guys. their manipulation of the music far surpasses our's. In terms of skill few of us can actually touch them. they don't have the long drawn out mixes but their music isn't made for that. as far as ur theory, well, i knowe how hard it is to put what you're hearing in ur head to words so, give it a try and see if it works?

True, but the nature of mixing being different is what gives each genre of mixing it's respective points. As cliche'd as it is, comparing hip hop mixing with electronica mixing, if you want to be blunt, is like comparing apples and oranges. How can you compare the compositional mixing poise of the likes of Sasha, John Digweed, Nic Fanciulli, etc... with the technical ability of A Trak, Yoga Frog, etc...? To me, the only thing in common with these two camps is the fact that they use turntables.
Furthermore, who else in any other genre of music pushes the limits of creative hybridity like JZ, or Sasha's Maven? While it's old news to us, in terms of breaking the rules, I can't think of one single artist that changes music in other genres like these two have. I don't mean to sound like I'm on their balls, but think about it: they are the culmination of the fusion of music and technology, spiced with their natural creativity, something that other artists "can't touch".

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Originally posted by lightside I give it up to those hip hop guys. their manipulation of the music far surpasses our's. In terms of skill few of us can actually touch them. they don't have the long drawn out mixes but their music isn't made for that. as far as ur theory, well, i knowe how hard it is to put what you're hearing in ur head to words so, give it a try and see if it works?

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Re: Can mixing 50 cent and Eminem work like mixing Tiesto and Corsten?

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Originally posted by DjConfessions my homie G and i were talking about the leaps and bounds in mixing music. Now, he is into hip hop and I am into trance. He is into turntables and I am into software. So he gave me this mix Dj Mouse The Grey Album and I was like "its cool." I'd heard about it and I thought it was cool when i was listening to it. So i tell him, hey, what if I could make a rap mix based on the rules of trance. I figure, u get the instrumental and the acapellas of rap songs, make a into, outro, put a "heeeeeeey" "yeeeeeeeeah" "ooooook" every few minutes and u just invented TRap mixtapes.

So let me get this right your ''homie G'' gave you a ''mixtape'' of ''dj mouse'' and you where like ''it's cool''. So you let him know you thought ''it was cool''.
The coked up, smoked up or doped up idiot that you are, inspired by that mixtape, you now want to make your own version of top 40 ''hip-pop'' by stripping it down to beats and vocal fills so that you can mix it as if it was bad, boring, supersaw epic trance
This would be a rap mix based on 'the rules of trance'.

Call me misfit, lips spit a gang of trash
Wrist glist now cause I make a gang of cash
Light glance, still street with the doo-rag
Slang, spit game, change speech, how they do that?

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would it make me some chedda?

I 've seen hella stupid threads here but what the fuck Dog?
This is the muthaf*c*in'stupid thread to end all muthaf*c*in' stupid threads!

http://www.specradio.com/hiphop.mp3

It's Funkymix and a few other remix services mixed in. I've found out hip hop also gets really boring if you're trying to mix it like trance and wait out the whole song.

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Originally posted by dj_palm do your hiphop mix in trancestyle but please dont post it here and please dont talk about it. hiphop sucks and it got nothing to do with tranceaddict site. only proper place to put this thread is in chill out room where all the idiots are.

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One big issue with this is the lyrics. They will get in the way and will clash as hip hop is very vocal.

But if you want to check out some good hip hop mixing check out Funkmaster Flex and his mix tapes. Also check out some of the classic Electro (on Street Sounds mainly mixed by Mastermind and Bunny Rock) mixes, they were mainly mixed by blend method... although the hip hop style was more old school it worked... but obviously this has been done before so it's nothing new.

He varies his style of mixing and will blend some tunes and cut others.
I think if you just blended hip hop you would limit the selection due to track possibilities and would probably not give a hip hop crowd what they want.

Cheers
Nem

I wanna clear something up

The mixtape you got was probably Dangermouse/Jay-Z/Beatles - Grey Album
Dangermouse used samples of the Beatles White album, to make the beat, and put acapella's from Jay-Z's Black album overtop the beats. It caused lots of controversy, and spawned many imitations. That said...dangermouse isn't a dj. He's a producer. He didnt mix it in the sense of mixing two records.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Album

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Originally posted by Vanilla I wanna clear something up The mixtape you got was probably Dangermouse/Jay-Z/Beatles - Grey Album Dangermouse used samples of the Beatles White album, to make the beat, and put acapella's from Jay-Z's Black album overtop the beats. It caused lots of controversy, and spawned many imitations. That said...dangermouse isn't a dj. He's a producer. He didnt mix it in the sense of mixing two records. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Album

Good album, nonetheless.

I remeber hearing some pretty fluent mixing on a cd called 7 deadly spins or something. It had a few different djs and one name I remember is DJ Fluke.

I can mix the hell out of hip-hop. Carry on.

i think you meant "dj dangermouse"

I love this thread.

shadow is a dope dj

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Originally posted by dj_palm do your hiphop mix in trancestyle but please dont post it here and please dont talk about it. hiphop sucks and it got nothing to do with tranceaddict site. only proper place to put this thread is in chill out room where all the idiots are.

This is in the DJing subforum, and he's asking for opinions about mixing a non-trance genre in trance style. I don't really see how that doesn't relate to trance or to DJing, the two things this forum is intended for.

If he just came here with a hiphop mix and wanted us all to tell him how cool it was, that'd be different; he's asking trance DJs what they think about mixing another genre in trance DJ style. Seems related enough to me, but whatever.

I spin both, hip hop and trance... And honestly, on the hip hop forums I never hear anyone hate on trance. As a matter of fact, they appreciate it. Most of the time, their main concearn is that they dont listen to it cause they dont know how to dance to it.

Why cant people in this forum for once not hate on other genres. I see that way too often.

Yeah, most turntablism is hip hop and the people that are actually good at turntablism could probably own 99% of the people here on some turntables.

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Originally posted by dj_palm sprry its just beacuse i see red everytime someone mention hiphop. i hate the crap. it was good before in the ealry 90s but now? CHEEZEE crap. ever since the eastcoast-westcoast war ended hiphop doesnt mean anything.

and other people might say the same about trance

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