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Pot may indeed lead to heroin use, rat study shows

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Pot may indeed lead to heroin use, rat study shows By Anne Harding Wed Jul 12, 1:43 PM ET NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Teens who experiment with marijuana may be making themselves more vulnerable to heroin addiction later in life, if the findings from experiments with rats are any indication. "Cannabis has very long-term, enduring effects on the brain," Dr. Yasmin Hurd of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, the study's lead author, told Reuters Health in an interview. Whether or not trying marijuana is a 'gateway' to use of so-called harder drugs like heroin and cocaine has been hotly debated, she and her colleagues note in the journal Neuropsychopharmacology. To investigate whether pot smoking could cause brain changes that might predispose an individual to later drug use, Hurd and her team looked at rats exposed to the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, during a developmental period similar to human adolescence. To mimic the relatively small amount used by most teens experimenting with pot, the rodents received periodic, small doses of THC. As young adults, the animals were fitted with catheters that allowed them to self-administer heroin. The researchers compared the amount and frequency of their drug use with that of rats that had not been given THC previously. The THC-exposed rats were more sensitive to the effects of heroin, the researchers found, and also consistently used larger amounts of the drug. The researchers also found that the THC-exposed rats showed disturbances in the brain's endogenous opioid system, which is often popularly referred to as the "reward system" of the brain and, in humans, is involved in experiencing pleasure. "I was really surprised at how specific and enduring the effects of cannabis were," Hurd said. She and her colleagues conclude: "The current findings provide direct evidence in support of the gateway hypothesis that adolescent cannabis exposure contributes to greater heroin intake in adulthood." SOURCE: Neuropsychopharmacology

omg please LOL this is so past retarded I don't even know where to start...

Bullshit. The difference betwween us and the rats is that we don't have self-administering doses of heroin attached to us. I think the decision to try heroin in humans is independent of the decision to try pot.

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Originally posted by starsearcher

seriously... dont make yourself sound more stupid by posting shit like this.

this is so far fetched.

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Originally posted by MKpacha seriously... dont make yourself sound more stupid by posting shit like this. this is so far fetched.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060712...HNlYwNtZW5ld3M-

Seriously...myob

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Originally posted by starsearcher http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060712...HNlYwNtZW5ld3M- Seriously...myob

if you wana make heroin your business dude, so be it.

or trance

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Originally posted by MKpacha seriously... dont make yourself sound more stupid by posting shit like this.

seems a little harsh? lol

he's posting an article, fuck.

I think the key words in this study are: RAT study

I am not a rat. I may smoke pot but I do NOT want to try heroin.

That time of the month, MKPacha?

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Originally posted by Floorwhore seems a little harsh? lol he's posting an article, fuck.

not meant to be harsh at all, sorry. I just saw him to be more intellegent... this article is just plain dumb.

Holy Crap!

I

NEED

SMACK!

NOW!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur That time of the month, MKPacha?

lol Dima, im actually starting to like u

I certainly agree that a tendancy towards common marijuana usage would definitely correlate to an increase in the experimentation with other substances; however, I don't think the line is drawn always towards the vile and dangerous substances - hell, Marijuana usage also leads people to incredibly beneficial and powerful substances like Mushrooms, Peyote, LSD, DMT, Ayuhuasca, Salvia, etc... I can't disagree with the gateway theory, but it's not always a gateway to "puuuuuure eeeeeeeeevil!", it's simply a doorway to realms. However, if cannibis does indeed impact the brains ability to reach reward states, or happiness, then there is no doubt that the easiest of the pleasure-inducers, Heroin and Cocaine being the mainstays, will be the path most walked. Mushrooms and the like, though they lead to more enduring, more inspiring and full-bodied happiness, are much more difficult to manage. This is a society of "path of least resistance" after all.

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Originally posted by MKpacha lol Dima, im actually starting to like u

Damn.

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Originally posted by MKpacha not meant to be harsh at all, sorry. I just saw him to be more intellegent... this article is just plain dumb.

If you "saw him to be more intellegent" then why did you say "dont make yourself sound more stupid"

lol, in any case, relax, it's just an article. He never said he agreed with it, he was just sharing a piece of text he found interesting, it's a neutral action.

I personally find it to be rubbish.

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Originally posted by weema If you "saw him to be more intellegent" then why did you say "dont make yourself sound more stupid" lol, in any case, relax, it's just an article. He never said he agreed with it, he was just sharing a piece of text he found interesting, it's a neutral action. I personally find it to be rubbish.

pwned.

its not like he said her mother was dirty and gave him stinkdink!?

apparently, that one flew under the radar - lmao

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Originally posted by Floorwhore pwned. its not like he said her mother was dirty and gave him stinkdink!? apparently, that one flew under the radar - lmao

da dip.




hey jon, sorry dude.

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Originally posted by MKpacha da stink dip.

When I read the title I got this great little image of a rat sitting in a low rent appartment with no furniture other then a urine stained mattress cooking up over a candle. I'll be laughing at that all day.

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Originally posted by jon jon omg please LOL this is so past retarded I don't even know where to start...

+ 1

the study itself is fine, IMHO, but the application to humans is absurd.

1. You can extrapoloate PHYSIOLOGICAL comparisons with rats...but human beings can REASON to a far greater depth. i.e. a teen or adult can more readily differentiate between the dangers of heroin use over pot...the social stigma...cost...etc.

2. Availability. Heroin isn't *nearly* as readily available as pot. So, unless we afix a catheter of heroin to people, or otherwise make it as readily available as pot (actually, moreso in this study since the rats were periodically given pot, while they could self-administer heroin WHENEVER THEY WANTED), and reduce stocial stigma, etc. etc. then the application of the results is seriously flawed.

Both of those points don't invalidate the study's results themselves...just the absurd application re: the "gateway drug" label put on pot.

All this shows is that from pot use, you MAY respond more positively IF you then use heroin. It demonstrates NOTHING with regard to pot being a "gateway drug" in the sense that opponents of pot claim that people will then move on to other drugs once they've tried pot.

I smoke pot. You don't. IF we both try heroin, I'll probably like and use it more.

so what? it does NOT follow that because I smoke pot, that I am more likely to use heroin than someone who doesn't smoke pot.

i hate when reputable journals fall to the pressures of conservative society and publish shit like this.

does anybody know where i can find some methadone?

talking about rats there is this little experiment that i like to remind to my druggie friends .

- basically they hook an electrode to a pleasure center in the rat's brain and everytime the rats push a button a device sends an stimulus to the pleasure center. you know what happens ehh .. the rat dies pushing the button, nothing else is important anymore..

here is a link to a couple of videos of rat experiments:

The Electrical Stimulation of Brain Pleasure Centers (videoclips of Experiments )

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Originally posted by slingshot does anybody know where i can find some methadone?

umm, college and spadina maybe? hee hee


I love to smoke WEEEEEEED, but I would NEver, ever, ever EVER do HERoin or Meth, or crystal . . .. yadda yadda yadda!

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