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Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:28:

Thumbs up Mother's breast milk, straight up

Wow, so I'm not alone. Very interesting. If I was in Toronto I'd FOR SURE without a doubt go to this! Very interesting/fascinating!

Now, let's here others' opinions (this should be interesting...)


And would you try breast milk yourself at your current age? (in this form, or directly from a woman's breast?? I'd be very interested to, the latter, I mean, especially. )




http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=969483191630

Mother's milk, straight up
Performance art used breast milk
Show had tasting, video and feeding


Jul. 14, 2006. 08:13 AM
ALWYNNE GWILT
ENTERTAINMENT REPORTER


Zeesy Powers, left, and Moynan King sniff some breast milk at the Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar, an interactive performance art piece at the Ontario Collge of Art and Design.

It wasn't a dry martini that got the Ontario College of Art and Design buzzing during last night's cocktail hour.

Instead of the usual fare, dozens of people saddled up to the bar for something quirkier: breast milk.

Jess Dobkin's blue highlights shone under the spotlights as she handed out samples of six women's milk in tiny plastic cups as a part of her performance art piece entitled The Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar.

The piece was meant to foster dialogue on breastfeeding.

The single mother of a 1-year-old says the project was brought on by a desire to integrate two major experiences in her life � being a mother and an artist � into one show, while discussing an issue that resonates with many women.

"Sometimes I think it's oversimplified � to breast or bottle � but this (show) is to talk about the complexity of women's experience and certainly the experience of being a new mom," says the 36-year-old Dobkin, whose project was funded in part by the Canada Council of the Arts.

The samples boasted names like Sweet Fall Harvest and Temple of the Goddess. Though sounding more like someone's wine cabinet after a trip to Niagara, the names were based on Dobkin's assessment of the women's characters when interviewing them.

The donors mingled on white leather chairs yesterday, playing with their babies and openly breastfeeding, while their videotaped interviews about motherhood were projected onto a back wall.

Liss Platt, who edited the tapes, says the experience showed her how varied women's motherhood experiences can be.

She was also struck by how much variation there was in the milk.

"The first was a more watery, runny, sweet milk but the second one was very different," says Platt. "It makes me start imagining, `What do they eat? What do they do?' It's like finding an identity within the breast milk."

Like a new chi-chi bar that everyone has to try, the softly lit atmosphere beckoned people from all walks of life to go up and taste � despite a warning issued yesterday from Health Canada that breast milk can be dangerous if purchased over the Internet.

"Given the way that this has been processed, there wasn't much of a taboo for me," says Adam Herst, who tried his wife's milk 12 years ago when she was breastfeeding their son.

Dobkin assured tasters that each donor's milk had been screened and tested for HIV and STDs, and was pasteurized.

Herst said breast milk is no tastier than a cow's or goat's; it was Dobkin's concept, rather, that caught his attention.

"I felt this was interesting in terms of her questioning the commodification of the food supply and the whole taboo surrounding drinking human milk, (when) we have no hesitation in drinking cows' milk or other milks that are treated and processed in the same way," he adds.

For breast milk donor Selena Middleton, the contribution was more about supporting breastfeeding.

"It really brings breastfeeding into the limelight, so I wanted to be a part of it," says the 26-year-old. As a young first-time mother she was shy at first with breastfeeding in public but says there was never a choice for her between formula or breast milk.

"(Finally) I just said, `Enough with this, I want to go out and I don't care; if she's hungry, I will feed her wherever I am,'" says the mother of her now 13-month-old girl, Istra.

"I just hope it really allows people to see it more as a natural thing ... and a really important part of the mother-child relationship."

- - -

Taste test

Somewhere, recessed in our minds, we already know what breast milk tastes like. After sipping a couple of samples at the the humanized "Got milk?" event yesterday at OCAD, no long-gone memories came flooding back, however.

In another part of the paper, I write about beer. So, evaluating the two samples of breast milk as I would a beer, I would say it has virtually no scent upon presentation, and no discernable head when poured � or in this case, dripped out of an eye-dropper into a tiny plastic glass. Breast milk has a silky mouthfeel, leaving a slight film � but much less even than the skimmest milk from a cow.

As for aftertaste? That varied the most. The colour does too. White, yes, but some are watery, some slightly creamier-looking. The first sample I tried was nutty, slightly sweet and had the consistency and mouthfeel of watered down soy milk. It was called Life Force Elixir, and felt like it. If this came to you, topped on your Second Cup, you would not scrape it off.

The second, nicknamed Temple of the Goddess, however, would be sent back. It had a surprisingly angry aftertaste that several on the tasting panel agreed shot directly up one's nose and stayed there. Performance artist Jess Dobkin advised the mother who supplied it had consumed highly spiced food around that time.

So breast milk: Ideal for summer sipping? Not really: Both milks lacked the proper crispness. Hardly thirst-quenching.

Should you wish to try it yourself, however, I suggest you get your breast milk from an independent producer. This is really a product in which you want to trust the maker.

Jon Filson


Posted by MKpacha on Jul-14-2006 13:31:

AS IF I COPIED AND PASTED AN ARTICLE JUST NOW ON THIS FOR YOU JAMIE!


Funding for 'Lactation Station' breast milk bar draws Tory ire

Bruce Cheadle
Canadian Press


Friday, June 16, 2006


OTTAWA -- The federal Conservative government says it won't lay a hand on the Lactation Station Breast Milk Bar.

A Toronto performance artist is offering the public an opportunity to sample human breast milk, in the spirit of wine tasting, and the lesbian single mother is using a $9,000 grant from the Canada Council for the Arts to help get the creative juices flowing.

That's the kind of avant garde stuff that used to make Conservative MPs paw the earth in opposition.

Tories and their Canadian Alliance and Reform party forebears have teed off over the past decade on government arts funding for everything from Bubbles Galore, a soft-porn art film, to Scatalogue: 30 Years of Crap in Contemporary Art, to a masturbating Mexican and the controversial "flesh dress'' -- a 23-kilogram flank steak number that once hung in the National Gallery.

"The whole concept is just totally obscene and one thin dime of public money going to something like this would be 10 cents too much,'' B.C. MP Jim Abbott fumed in 2001 over Mexican artist Israel Mora's ejaculate, on display in a cooler at the Banff Centre.

Today, Abbott is parliamentary secretary to Heritage Minister Bev Oda and a more reticent art critic.

Inquiries to his office Friday about the lactation station prompted a return call from Oda's spokesman, Robert Paterson, who said the Canada Council for the Arts operates at arm's length from the government.

"I can't offer an official view on this particular program,'' said Paterson. "It would be inappropriate for the minister to interfere directly.''

The Conservative government, added Paterson, continues to support funding for artists who have "a positive message for Canadians.''

Jason Kenney, parliamentary secretary to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, reacted with bemusement rather than anger to the breast milk sampler, which is scheduled for July 13 at the Ontario College of Art & Design Professional Gallery.

"Personally I think we should be funding cultural endeavours that actually draw an audience, that people are actually interested in,'' said Kenney. "I'm not sure that's the case here.''

The breast milk, provided by six different women according to artist Jess Dobkin, will be pasteurized for health and safety reasons. But that consideration didn't seem top of mind for federal Health Minister Tony Clement.

"A chacun son gout,'' -- to each his own tastes, said Clement, before quickly adding, "It's not for me.''

An aide interjected that the funding would have come from the arts council.

"Yes, thank goodness it didn't come from us, let's put it that way,'' agreed the minister.

� Canadian Press 2006


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Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by MKpacha
AS IF I COPIED AND PASTED AN ARTICLE JUST NOW ON THIS FOR YOU JAMIE!



OH, MK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Je t'aime aussi!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
EWWWWWWWW.



Posted by preppie chick on Jul-14-2006 13:36:

EWWWWWWWWWWWW.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:37:

quote:
Originally posted by preppie chick
EWWWWWWWWWWWW.


(again)


Posted by The Highroller on Jul-14-2006 13:40:

Ok, this is just fucking wierd.


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-14-2006 13:41:

Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Wow, so I'm not alone. Very interesting. If I was in Toronto I'd FOR SURE without a doubt go to this! Very interesting/fascinating!


quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
And would you try breast milk yourself at your current age? (in this form, or directly from a woman's breast?? I'd be very interested to, the latter, I mean, especially. )


Jamie, at first i thought you just had a major obsession with breasts - now with this glimpse into your latest horrific interest, i'm pretty sure you have lost your mind.

Seek help now, before your lips grace a lactating nipple - and it's too late.

i honestly think i would rather eat out a chicks ass or for that matter, drink an ass milkshake than share the same teet her infant uses to EAT for fucks sake.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:46:

Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore

i honestly think i would rather eat out a chicks ass or for that matter, drink an ass milkshake than share the same teet her infant uses to EAT for fucks sake.


to quote Lars "EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"

God, thats disgusting Jeff... the ass is NASTY... keep that business away from me. I hope you're being extreme to make a point.


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-14-2006 13:55:

Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
God, thats disgusting Jeff... the ass is NASTY... keep that business away from me. I hope you're being extreme to make a point.


dude, i would say 99% of the male population, if offered to eat the ass of a hot chick (out the shower, scrubbed, clean pink starfish) - or to suck on the teet for a refreshing beverage chalked full of vitamins and minerals - would no doubt pick the ass.

could be wrong though.


Posted by preppie chick on Jul-14-2006 13:57:

OMG who the fuck is the 2nd person who would try breastmilk?

SPEAK UP, YOU!

this threads gets ewwwwer by the post...


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 13:59:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
dude, i would say 99% of the male population, if offered to eat the ass of a hot chick (out the shower, scrubbed, clean pink starfish) - or to suck on the teet for a refreshing beverage chalked full of vitamins and minerals - would no doubt pick the ass.

could be wrong though.


you're prolly right. ew, the thought still bothers me though. i could never... i see the point your trying to make though. i dont think my opinion will be that of the general population.

i dont think its utterly ridiculous and gross either though. im just geared towards appreciating breasts


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 14:01:

oh god,i see too much of my work day being wasted in this thread today.

damn fridays... ok, gotta try to be productive still!


Posted by starsearcher on Jul-14-2006 14:08:

Yeah this is quite weird and also a bit disturbing


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jul-14-2006 14:10:

My stomach did a grumbly noise just at the thought of this. And not the "MMMmmmm ribs" kind of grumbly noise, but the "oh god, I think I'm gonna throw up" kind of grumbly noise.


Posted by arek on Jul-14-2006 14:10:


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-14-2006 14:10:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
im just geared towards appreciating breasts


you have gone from appreciating breasts, and taken it to the next level where 'appreciate' becomes the biggest understatement possibly in the history of mankind.

i appreciate vagina's too.... but when a girl is on her period, i dont ask her how long her cycle lasts, if she has heavy flow or not, and most importantly - what the fuck are 'wings'. thats her business. just like the milk flowing out of a womans teet is her babies business, when it becomes that of grown male for the sheer pleasure of sexual stimulation - it becomes a creepy, downright ugly situation.


Posted by TJB on Jul-14-2006 14:14:

This news is what woke me up this morning. So gross.


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-14-2006 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by TJB
This news is what woke me up this morning. So gross.


tara, could i suck on your teet?


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jul-14-2006 14:16:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
dude, i would say 99% of the male population, if offered to eat the ass of a hot chick (out the shower, scrubbed, clean pink starfish) - or to suck on the teet for a refreshing beverage chalked full of vitamins and minerals - would no doubt pick the ass.

could be wrong though.


Oh yes, ass

And uh Jamie, would you suck milk out of this bad mother******?


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 14:16:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
when it becomes that of grown male for the sheer pleasure of sexual stimulation - it becomes a creepy, downright ugly situation.


i never said for sexual stimulation. its not for that reason byany means. its bc of my general curiosity to just try it once. jesus, its not that huge a deal.

how is this even half as gross as a chick letting a guy cum in her mouth and swallowing it (or spitting afterwards)

do u think breast milk is a more disgusting thing to have in ur mouth or swallow?

its just more common place, and therefore accepted without revulsion. exposure breeds acceptance and tolerance.


Posted by Irishaddict on Jul-14-2006 14:16:

CALE THAT'S DISGUSTING.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jul-14-2006 14:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0

And uh Jamie, would you suck milk out of this bad mother******?



Negative. Doesnt meet the threashold.


Posted by Killah Monkey on Jul-14-2006 14:21:

I honestly think there is nothing wrong with brest milk.. It kinda creeps me out to think I used to survive on this substance, but there is nothing gross about tasting it.

People have eaten, drank, tasted weirder things before. It is a natural thing in life... Not that I am going to run out and taste it myself... but... I dunno where I was going with this... lol

And Jamie... you seem to have a very true obsession with breasts... and open about it... ha ha... nothing wrong with that... I have a thing for men with nipple rings


Posted by DigDeep on Jul-14-2006 14:22:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's breast milk, straight up

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
how is this even half as gross as a chick letting a guy cum in her mouth and swallowing it (or spitting afterwards)


that department doesn't apply to me. i supply the sperm for tasting, i dont eat it myself.... and last i checked im not gay. i've been told i have a sweet tasting load anyways, so apparently it's not that bad - lol oh god - TMI

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
do u think breast milk is a more disgusting thing to have in ur mouth or swallow?


this question i have never asked myself, nor do i plan on pondering it for the future. either way, milk from a breast in your mouth (whether its to swish around for a taste at your nearing breast milk tasting tour), or swallowing it straight from the source... is flat out creepy, especially if you are at an age where after you swallow - you can actually speak, and ask for more.


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