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It is getting really serious in the middle-east

Israel's 4 day offensive leaves 104 people dead in lebanon, hezbollah steping up its defense, Syria and Iran pledging to aid hezbollah, Lebanon's PM ready to take control of hezbollah's territory which will only lead to a civil war. Bush and Putin divided over what is going on...this is getting VERY VERY ugly very FAST

I really hope the Arab league can do something, right now they shouldn't put faith in the UN security council though, they never get anything done.

Its a big giant bomb that will probably explode soon.

the world is anxiously waiting for a new white house with a new foreign policy and a clue about diplomacy...

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Originally posted by lex400sc the world is anxiously waiting for a new white house with a new foreign policy and a clue about diplomacy...

Seriously.

"Calling For Restraint" doesnt do jack shit George.

why do you think we loaded iraq? bu$h was planning to attack iran, but that didn't work. so, he is attacking other neighboors. he will try to pull iran, so he can justify bombing their nuclear central.

israel says rockets are developed by china, produced by iran. so, they nail two targets at once.

i say everybody take ninja classes and breakdance.

the middle east is the modern day european powder keg. this could be the straw that breaks the camels back. its unknown if it will but there is a possibility.

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Originally posted by vxman why do you think we loaded iraq? bu$h was planning to attack iran, but that didn't work. so, he is attacking other neighboors. he will try to pull iran, so he can justify bombing their nuclear central. israel says rockets are developed by china, produced by iran. so, they nail two targets at once.

no trust me, bush's plan was to and remains to be to secure a steady oil supply, establish a permanent military presence in the region and to systematically neuter the entire middle east for israel. it's just too bad his entire administration is so brazenly incompetent and tactless at carrying it out...

Re: It is getting really serious in the middle-east

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Originally posted by Xtracktor ...right now they shouldn't put faith in the UN security council though, they never get anything done.

should we ever? lol

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Originally posted by vxman why do you think we loaded iraq? bu$h ADMINSTRATION was planning to attack iran, but that didn't work. so, he is attacking other neighboors. he will try to pull iran, so he can justify bombing their nuclear central. israel says rockets are developed by china, produced by iran. so, they nail two targets at once.

Quoted for Truth and fixed a bit.

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Originally posted by lex400sc no trust me, bush's plan was to and remains to be to secure a steady oil supply, establish a permanent military presence in the region and to systematically neuter the entire middle east for israel. it's just too bad his entire administration is so brazenly incompetent and tactless at carrying it out...

QFT.

I really dont understand what Israel is trying to accomplish. It makes zero sense. Its like they took a stupid pill.

In the past they would have just done stuff covertly. And yes yes I know it was an act of war. But think 2 steps ahead it makes zero sense.

They cant get rid of Hizbollah without reoccupying S. Lebannon. That didnt work out so well last time. Even if they do reoccupy it they have a bloody occuptation that goes on years. Only to have to leave at somepoint.

Its really weird. I think they are trying to cut down the US's ability to work out a deal with Iran but thats just my 2 cents. Otherwise this makes no sense.

i think i should change my first name lol

Well looks like israel just killed some lebanese troops, gah not good

ah... theyre being attacked by rockets everyday? what else is their to accomplish besides destroying terrorism scum

when made in usa bombs fall on them, i wonder who they hate.

50M voted for bu$h, so they are responsible for his actions.

Roast a pig. That will solve the problem.

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Originally posted by vxman when made in usa bombs fall on them, i wonder who they hate. 50M voted for bu$h, so they are responsible for his actions.

I'm sure its easy to tell what kind of bomb fell on you.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I'm sure its easy to tell what kind of bomb fell on you.

and once the bomb falls on you, it's VERY easy to be mad about it.. last time a bomb fell on me, I was PiSSeD!

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Originally posted by vxman when made in usa bombs fall on them, i wonder who they hate. 50M voted for bu$h, so they are responsible for his actions.

You know you are a terrible person for saying we should all die.
It is not my fault Bush was elected. I am only 17. Everyone I know didn't vote for Bush and I told everyone not to. My friends and I cried when Bush was reelected and we were pissed when he was elected in the first place. Everyone in my school wore black the next day after he was "elected in 2004" to show our disgust.

Secondly I am a human rights activist and I am on the side of innocent people. I just went to a youth human rights conference and met 50 teenagers who are doing great things for the world. In fact they are the world's only hopes.

Thirdly I went to protest the bombing of Lebanon and Palestine two days ago in downtown LA and there were hundreds of people there protesting against the bombing of Lebanon while there were only a dozen supporters across the street of what Israel is doing. If you take a look on the internet and blogs you will see that the majority of the world and the majority of Americans think that Israel is out of line. Because everyone sees that 300 innocent civillans dead 1000 people injured and 500,000 (1/2 a million) refugees/displaced people is not justified because of 2 kidnapped soldiers.

PS it is an incredibally stupid move because Lebanon is the most democratic pro-Western country in the region and Israel basically destroyed Beirut and devasted lebanon.

So mister you are out of line stop your stupid generalizations of all americans. People like me might be the only chance of getting the Bushie types out of the gov't and the world a little more in sync.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I'm sure its easy to tell what kind of bomb fell on you.

the rest of the world isn't as sheltered about u.s. foreign policy as we are. everyone over there knows where israeli ordinance, israeli tanks, jets and helicopters come from. everyone knows how much money we give them in aid every year, and how deeply embedded aipac is in our political system. in fact, around the world, most people see america as israel's lapdog. and i would call that a fair characterization. with the whole issue made out of iran in this conflict, few people realize that the united states is seen as the iran to lebanon's hezbollah... iran supplies hezbollah with rockets, united states supplies israel with missiles. both are being used to kill civilians. except who is going to be sympathized for and who is going to be demonized in the end? yesterday i saw an american flag being burned alongside an israeli flag by lebanese refugees in syria. it might not make any sense to you or i, but israel is damaging our middle east relations just as much as they are their own. it doesn't matter that the majority of americans think israel is going too far, when the official stance of the united states is that israel isn't doing anything wrong and we have no objection to their actions, that's all that resonates with the arab world.

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Originally posted by lex400sc the rest of the world isn't as sheltered about u.s. foreign policy as we are. everyone over there knows where israeli ordinance, israeli tanks, jets and helicopters come from. everyone knows how much money we give them in aid every year, and how deeply embedded aipac is in our political system. with the whole issue made out of iran in this conflict, few people realize that the united states is seen as the iran to lebanon's hezbollah... iran supplies hezbollah with rockets, united states supplies israel with missiles. yesterday i saw an american flag being burned alongside an israeli flag by lebanese refugees in syria. it doesn't matter that the majority of americans think israel is going too far, when the official stance of the united states is that israel isn't doing anything wrong and we have no objection to their escalation, that's all that resonates with the arab world.

Every bomb Israel drops on Lebanon makes 25 more terrorists.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Every bomb Israel drops on Lebanon makes 25 more terrorists.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Every bomb Israel drops on Lebanon makes 25 more terrorists.

no one can even follow the logic behind israel's air strike/shelling campaign... there's a reason why hezbollah is the only militia in lebanon which hasn't disarmed after the civil war. short of invading and occupying lebanon, there's no way you're gonna erradicate them from the country by levelling lebanese towns with missile strikes. and what we are seeing now is lebanese moderates who in the past just wanted peace, now becoming hezbollah sympathizers. in lebanon the group is a political minority, holding something like 20% of the seats in government. does israel think what they are doing is gonna make hezbollah any less popular with the people? over a million displaced refugees, many who used up all the money they have just to pick up and escape the violence, now living broke, hungry and homeless in syria with no idea what tomorrow will bring. yeah i would depise israel too if that was my situation. but there are also a lot of lebanese people who are stranded in their towns and can't escape because israeli jets blew up all the roads and bridges leading out of the town, so now they are sitting in their homes running out of food to sound of explosions in their backyard. you have to wonder, what's israel's end game here????

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Originally posted by neogaia So mister you are out of line stop your stupid generalizations of all americans.

you are the one generalizing. i did not wish anyone to die. i want bu$h to be impeached and tried at criminal court and be treated like the prisoners at gitmo and abu ghraib. they have 11 year old kid at gitmo and nobody does/says anything. supreme court my a$$.

what i was trying to say that it would be wrong just to blame the administration. people voted for this government so they are accountable, too. we could say [our] crap government is doing all these atrocities. but, goverment would not be able to get away with it if they did not have public's support.

if you look at the recent polls, more than 50% americans support israel. i think less than 10% support lebanon. i think that number would be even less for arabs. there is not much you can do.

stronger wins, right/wrong.

i gave up on this world. i would not be surprised if we screwed the heaven, too. good luck to you.

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